Homosexuality is wrong....so you fail

[FaithInChrist324]

Ok- so this is to all of you homosexuals out there that claim to be "Christians" and "Believers in the Holy Spirit" <staff edit>. You know what our God says in the Bible about what he thinks about homosexual behavior. You know that he doesn't tolerate this abomination. <staff edit> But to those of you who are straight- you just keep doing what you're doing- live for the Lord!

 

[JGG]

Ok- so this is to all of you homosexuals out there that claim to be "Christians" and "Believers in the Holy Spirit" <staff edit>. You know what our God says in the Bible about what he thinks about homosexual behavior. You know that he doesn't tolerate this abomination. <staff edit> But to those of you who are straight- you just keep doing what you're doing- live for the Lord!

Yeah! And Fred Phelps is kewl! Don't worry man, I got yo' back!

 

[Tinker Grey]

Now if we could just get God to crack down on shrimp.

 

[kangitanka]

Ok- so this is to all of you homosexuals out there that claim to be "Christians" and "Believers in the Holy Spirit"

This is likewise to all of you who think the same way

<staff edit>

You know what our God says in the Bible about what he thinks about homosexual behavior.

And you know what your Jesus says about condemnation of your fellow human.
I'm pretty sure (correct me if I'm wrong) that your god did not give you permission to be Judge and Jury

You know that he doesn't tolerate this abomination.

He also doesn't tolerate hatred <staff edit>

<staff edit>But to those of you who are straight- you just keep doing what you're doing- live for the Lord!

Yeah, 'cause being "Straight" is the end-all-be-all for your deity

You might want to go back and re-read the 4 Gospels and see who your deity actually accused of wrongdoing.

You might be surprised.

(Hint- according to your Jesus, what is the Law? Who are you supposed to agape/agapao? According to 5:44, you are supposed to Agape/Agapao (LOVE) them.

<staff edit> (and your post is going to do NOTHING to convince homosexuals, Christian or otherwise, of your point.....usually such apparent hatred just drives people away)

 

[Autumnleaf]

Jesus did have a beef with people who were hypocrites when it came to Jewish people not following God's rules right, when they knew better...

 

[b&wpac4]

Ok- so this is to all of you homosexuals out there that claim to be "Christians" and "Believers in the Holy Spirit" <staff edit>. You know what our God says in the Bible about what he thinks about homosexual behavior. You know that he doesn't tolerate this abomination. <staff edit> But to those of you who are straight- you just keep doing what you're doing- live for the Lord!

Well, at least this is not addressed to me. Carry on

 

[BlackSabb]

So what exactly are all the things that are sins? Is there a master list somewhere?

Well, for Christians, the "master list" as you put it, is in the Bible. However, for many people, their urges, desires etc contradict what Biblical teachings and therefore there is the attempt to "interpret" Biblical teachings in light of that.

For eg, traditional Christianity has always taught the virtue of no sex before marriage. There are Christians out there that interpret the Bible (because it suits their lifestyle-let's be honest) that it's okay to have sex before marriage so long as they're "committed" to the other person.

The plain teachings of the Bible against homosexuality are also thus interpreted away to mean something else.

Whilst I don't approve of the vitriolic nature of the OP, I do fully support what he states.

 

[conchobarm]

Ok- so this is to all of you homosexuals out there that claim to be "Christians" and "Believers in the Holy Spirit" <staff edit>. You know what our God says in the Bible about what he thinks about homosexual behavior. You know that he doesn't tolerate this abomination. <staff edit> But to those of you who are straight- you just keep doing what you're doing- live for the Lord!

THere's so much I want to say to this, but I think I'd probably be banned for it. You claim to be a Christian, but you can't even bother to find out that I"m a good person, you just automatically assume I'm not, and the only reason is because I have a boyfriend. <staff edit> it was because of people like you that I stopped going to church...like I said, I can't say what I'm thinking on a Christian forum, but people like you make me really angry

 

[lawtonfogle]

THere's so much I want to say to this, but I think I'd probably be banned for it. You claim to be a Christian, but you can't even bother to find out that I"m a good person, you just automatically assume I'm not, and the only reason is because I have a boyfriend. <staff edit> and it was because of people like you that I stopped going to church...like I said, I can't say what I'm thinking on a Christian forum, but people like you make me really angry

I'm gonna bet dollars to dimes you are not actually any different... well you are saying people are bad for being homosexual, but there would be some other sexuality you feel the same way about.

And if you are wondering if I myself am the same? I actually don't know.

 

[conchobarm]

I'm gonna bet dollars to dimes you are not actually any different... well you are saying people are bad for being homosexual, but there would be some other sexuality you feel the same way about.

And if you are wondering if I myself am the same? I actually don't know.

I'm confused...

Edit: Don't suppose anyone could translate maybe ?

 

[Belk]

Well, for Christians, the "master list" as you put it, is in the Bible. However, for many people, their urges, desires etc contradict what Biblical teachings and therefore there is the attempt to "interpret" Biblical teachings in light of that.

For eg, traditional Christianity has always taught the virtue of no sex before marriage. There are Christians out there that interpret the Bible (because it suits their lifestyle-let's be honest) that it's okay to have sex before marriage so long as they're "committed" to the other person.

The plain teachings of the Bible against homosexuality are also thus interpreted away to mean something else.

Whilst I don't approve of the vitriolic nature of the OP, I do fully support what he states.

But surely someone has gone through the bible and compiled a handy reference for each and every thing that is a sin? I mean if something is a sin in the bible and you don't believe it to be a sin there are apparently dire consequences. Is this not true?

 

[BlackSabb]

But surely someone has gone through the bible and compiled a handy reference for each and every thing that is a sin? I mean if something is a sin in the bible and you don't believe it to be a sin there are apparently dire consequences. Is this not true?

Firstly, the Bible is not supposed to be read like a legal document. With an exhaustive list of do's and dont's. Sure, there are commandments of God. But the Bible is supposed to be followed as an instruction guide of living your life in accordance with God and his Son, Jesus. If you love God and accept Jesus as the Son of God and Saviour of mankind, you'll naturally be striving to live in accordance to God-in every aspect of your life, not just "laws" as you put it. Eg, living in accordance to God's will for your life.

It's not supposed to be some sort of heavenly checklist that you tick off. That's not loving God and following Jesus-that's mechanical obeying with no heart motive. The Bible is not supposed to be legalistic. You don't "not steal" merely because that's what it says in the Bible. Rather, you know that God hates theft and as you desire to serve him, you choose to follow his precepts and therefore you don't steal. Same results in both cases, but different motivation and heart attitudes.

And yes, there are dire consequences. There are consequences in the natural, such as STD's by being promiscous. Or mental/physical disorders by engaging in illicit drugs. And there are other consequences. Namely not receiving eternal life that Jesus promises.

 

[conchobarm]

*deep breath*

Not all homosexuals are promiscuous or drug abusers. If a man is in a monogamous relationship, and he's a faithful Christian, I don't think there'd be any consequences more harmful than less rewards in the afterlife. Just my opinion

 

[Verv]

But surely someone has gone through the bible and compiled a handy reference for each and every thing that is a sin? I mean if something is a sin in the bible and you don't believe it to be a sin there are apparently dire consequences. Is this not true?

Yes, and part of our work as Christians is to work towards avoiding sin that we could fall into in the future.

However, as Black Sab said, the Bible is not inherently a legalistic document meant to condemn us to hell but rather we are supposed to roll with the punches and seek to save ourselves from hell through living by the word of God.

 

[quatona]

Ok- so this is to all of you homosexuals out there that claim to be "Christians" and "Believers in the Holy Spirit" <staff edit>. You know what our God says in the Bible about what he thinks about homosexual behavior. You know that he doesn't tolerate this abomination. <staff edit> But to those of you who are straight- you just keep doing what you're doing- live for the Lord!

Last time I read your Holy Book, your God had to say a lot about pride and judgement, as well.

<staff edit>

 

[JGG]

Last time I read your Holy Book, your God had to say a lot about pride and judgement, as well.


<staff edit>

Yeah, but He didn't mean it. God only hates homosexuals. Oh, and Sweden.

 

[levi501]

Great point... why hasn't someone posted this master list of sins?

 

[lawtonfogle]

I'm confused...

Edit: Don't suppose anyone could translate maybe ?

My major annoyance with the pro-GLBT group is how they act like their oppressors to other sexual attractions.

For example. You get mad at someone for assuming you are a bad person based on the fact you are attracted to the same sex. I am betting (and since it is a bet, I could be wrong this time, but on average I am not) that you think people who are attracted to S/M, or more likely sexual sadism to the point of rape (but who refrain from actually doing it to anyone), or (just about the best example) those who are attracted to children, are bad people because of no other reason than their attraction. And you may be an exception, and be able to look past that, but most pro-GLBT people I encounter (and considering I am a member for GSA, that is a good deal of people) cannot.

Yes, this is a bit off topic...

 

[lawtonfogle]

*deep breath*

Not all homosexuals are promiscuous or drug abusers. If a man is in a monogamous relationship, and he's a faithful Christian, I don't think there'd be any consequences more harmful than less rewards in the afterlife. Just my opinion

Would you agree with the following statement?

If a man is in a polygamous (multiple men or women or both) relationship, he respect all his partners, and he's a faithful Christian, I don't think there'd be any consequences more harmful than less rewards in the afterlife.

 

[keith99]

*deep breath*

Not all homosexuals are promiscuous or drug abusers. If a man is in a monogamous relationship, and he's a faithful Christian, I don't think there'd be any consequences more harmful than less rewards in the afterlife. Just my opinion

Perhaps not nbeing a believer my opinions don't count, despite the fact that even several years rusty I probably have a far better knowledge of scripture than most Christians.

You may be right, you may be wrong. But I'll just point out that adultery is one of what are usually called the 10 commandments, homosexual sex is not. Actually I think I'll go a bit farther and point out that coveting something of your neighbor is one of the 10. I'd say I've broken that one and doubt any parson who says they are sure they have never crossed that line.