Homosexuality is a sin, get over it...

[Konkurrent]

What a kind thing to say.

Thank you.

Neither of us have conclusive evidence.

Exactly. I, for one, don't seek to convict without conclusive evidence.

Please read your post that I was responding to and then read my post. Then you can debate what I'm saying.

You even said youself that it was to be expected that people are vehemently for gays being born that way. So in your words you agreed with my 'anecdotal evidence'.

If you are - as I am - going with the limitation of credible sources (which I made the mistake of assuming was understood initially) my statements stand up. When I realized that you were going to use anyone foaming at the mouth as a valid opinion, then yes, you're going to find someone that holds any opinion. Give me long enough and I'm sure I can find you someone that believes cheese makes people gay. Does that make his opinion worthy of inclusion in this discussion?

Or would you rather stick - as I was originally inclined to - to those with credibility?

And I don't appreciate the stereotypes you are placing on me. You don't understand that you couldn't say all that stuff if I didn't place my age on my posts.

Well here's some free advice. Don't give people information you don't want them to have. But beyond that I don't see what you have to complain about. You're behaving - in my opinion at least - like a know-it-all. Your age works to your advantage, not against it. Because of your extreme youth you can get away with being insufferably self-assured of your infallibility. It's expected. If I didn't know your age I'd be inclined to not think very highly of you.

If you don't like a stereotype, don't follow it.

 

[ThirdDay3337]

Thank you.



Exactly. I, for one, don't seek to convict without conclusive evidence.



If you are - as I am - going with the limitation of credible sources (which I made the mistake of assuming was understood initially) my statements stand up. When I realized that you were going to use anyone foaming at the mouth as a valid opinion, then yes, you're going to find someone that holds any opinion. Give me long enough and I'm sure I can find you someone that believes cheese makes people gay. Does that make his opinion worthy of inclusion in this discussion?

Or would you rather stick - as I was originally inclined to - to those with credibility?



Well here's some free advice. Don't give people information you don't want them to have. But beyond that I don't see what you have to complain about. You're behaving - in my opinion at least - like a know-it-all. Your age works to your advantage, not against it. Because of your extreme youth you can get away with being insufferably self-assured of your infallibility. It's expected. If I didn't know your age I'd be inclined to not think very highly of you.

If you don't like a stereotype, don't follow it.

I'm responding to your posts and your responding to mine. Please inform me how I am being a 'know-it-all'.

If your referring to the fact that I am using my opinions to try and prove you wrong, then I guess you still act 16 as well.

With your stereotype, you are literally saying that I cannot say anything unless it agrees with your opinion, or else I look like a 'know-it-all'.

 

[Konkurrent]

You are arguing based upon assumptions about homosexuals that no one actually knows.

I'm am arguing that no one actually knows those things.


Do you see the distinction?

 

[Konkurrent]

God doesn't start their lives genetically gay.

People choose to be gay after they are born.

This is what I'm referring to. You don't know this. It is not currently knowable.

 

[ThirdDay3337]

Too bad nothing supports that assertion. Even the Bible doesn't say that people aren't born gay. Science says that the origin is unknown.

The only people that say the know for sure are the ones vehemently opposed to homosexuality. Seems a bit biased to me.

I said in response to this that I knew people that believed the other way vehemently.

You said in response to that, "well obviously".

If you don't count yourself as a credible source, then no I have no credible sources.

 

[ThirdDay3337]

This is what I'm referring to. You don't know this. It is not currently knowable.

That is why this is a forum, not an encyclopedia.

I don't know this. This is my OPINION. Everything written on here is an opinion.

 

[Konkurrent]

I said in response to this that I knew people that believed the other way vehemently.

You said in response to that, "well obviously".

Why are we still on this. Did I not explain it sufficiently for you?

If you don't count yourself as a credible source, then no I have no credible sources.

That doesn't make sense. I'm your only credible source?

 

[Konkurrent]

That is why this is a forum, not an encyclopedia.

I don't know this. This is my OPINION. Everything written on here is an opinion.

So you're comfortable presenting your biased, unsubstantiated opinions as statements of fact?

 

[ThirdDay3337]

Why are we still on this. Did I not explain it sufficiently for you?



That doesn't make sense. I'm your only credible source?

for this point

 

[ThirdDay3337]

So you're comfortable presenting your biased, unsubstantiated opinions as statements of fact?

when did i say they were facts?

 

[Konkurrent]

When you say something like "People choose to be gay" it does not look like a statement of opinion. It looks like you are saying that this is the way things are.

You are going to offend people if you don't qualify opinions by stating that they're opinions.

 

[ThirdDay3337]

Everything written here is an opinion.

You know how people know this, because other people can disagree with what is said in a forum.

No can argue with facts.

This is a forum. Which means everything written is an opinion.

 

[Konkurrent]

Everything written here is an opinion.

Not true.

You know how people know this, because other people can disagree with what is said in a forum.

No can argue with facts.

This is a paradox. If it were impossible to argue with a fact it would not be an opinion that "no [one] can argue with facts". Then, according to your quaint view of reality, it would be impossible to state that on this forum since "everything written here is an opinion".

This is a forum. Which means everything written is an opinion.

Redundancy does not replace accuracy.

I can state something that is not opinion on this forum.

"The Earth is roughly (but not perfectly) spherical." This is not an opinion. It has been scientifically proven. Yet somehow I managed to post it on this forum. It seems that both opinions and facts can be posted here.

However, people can argue against facts. For quite awhile people argued about whether or not the Earth was round.


If what you're saying were true, and it was not necessary to qualify opinions as opinions on forums, why is there an abbreviation dedicated to doing exactly that? "IMO" and "IMHO" exist solely to differentiate between statements of opinion and statements of fact.


Just because you don't intend something to be taken as a fact doesn't mean the rest of us magically know you're intending it to be read as opinion.

When you say that "People choose to be gay after they are born." I don't believe many people are actually thinking that this is a fact. Most of them recognize that it's just your opinion. But you appear to be stating it as a fact which is significantly different. You may not see the difference but it is there.

 

[HisEagle]

"It's a beautiful day in the neighborhood,
a beautiful day for a neighbor.

Would you be mine? Could you be mine?"

Oh wait....that's right. They're all arguing with one another.

Pffft....I don't want to be their neighbor.

 

[ebia]

Lev 18:22-23
"You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination."

How would you interpret this verse?

In it's context - that the ritual sex practiced by the "Egyptians" is (like the other rituals practiced by them) blasphemy against God.

 

[ebia]

so some people in this forum actually think "gay activity" isn't a sin??? What version of the Bible do they have?

Because the bible doesn't say homosexual activity is sinful, the bible says that some same sex sexual activity is sinful. Just like some hetrosexual sex is sinful.

 

[Konkurrent]

Because the bible doesn't say homosexual activity is sinful, the bible says that some same sex sexual activity is sinful. Just like some hetrosexual sex is sinful.

The measure (and I say this with a certain self-deprecating humor) is how much you enjoy it. If you're having more fun than you have in church, it's a sin (or at least that seems to be the stricter rules).

I think it has more to do with the "why" than the "what".

 

[ebia]

The measure (and I say this with a certain self-deprecating humor) is how much you enjoy it. If you're having more fun than you have in church, it's a sin (or at least that seems to be the stricter rules).

I think it has more to do with the "why" than the "what".

And therefore the more miserable the church, the more you have to ban.

 

[Catherineanne]

I think I like you

Well, sorry to sound ungrateful, but either you do or you don't.



So, made up your mind yet?

 

[Catherineanne]

Because the bible doesn't say homosexual activity is sinful, the bible says that some same sex sexual activity is sinful. Just like some hetrosexual sex is sinful.

Absolutely. And, the point that some people seem never to grasp; some sex within marriage is sinful.

It is about relationship, and how we treat one another. In that context, treating one's spouse in a disrespectful or abusive way, even with the sanction of a piece of paper, is a sin.

To reduce God and his judgment of us to a kind of Janet and John sit up straight, be good, don't do that, be quiet kind of list of rules and regulations is to diminish the Almighty to Kindergarten level, imo. Or, to use a modern metaphor, imo God is not digital, but analogue.