Homosexuality Deception

[bookofjade]

Many people around the world has been duped into believing that homosexuality is normal and should be allowed. That gay people are fighting for their rights etc That gay people get sexually transmitted diseases and cannot get treatment because of discrimination


There is a book entitled "The gay report: Lesbians and gay men speak out about sexual experiences and lifestyles" (1977). In the above book some homosexuals (both lesbians and gay men) are involved in the following practices: Sadomasochism, using a fist for sexual purposes, urination, defecation and enemas, Sex with animals, Fetishes, Prostitution, Threesomes and Orgies, Using drugs, sexual aids (toys, oils, pornography) exhibitionism, masturbation, and for men some fantasizes about boys and youths.


The above shows how dangerous the gay lifestyle is and how it threatens us all. Some may argue that heterosexuals do the above as well, but what seems to be happening is that gay sexual practices are being used by heterosexuals without knowing that their activities originates in the gay community.


The reason why homosexuals have the highest rate of diseases is as a direct result of activities they participate in. Therefore the following popular notion that "discrimination resulting in gay individuals being unable to access health service" is a complete lie.


For persons who are researches I recommend getting a copy of "The gay report: Lesbians and gay men speak out about sexual experiences and lifestyles' 1977. Persons need to be fully aware of homosexual practices which is impacting heavily on the health of all nations.


Be aware as well that bisexuals are providing a bridge between the gay and heterosexual community, which means heterosexuals are at a higher risk than normal of getting sexual transmitted diseases.

When you suppress desire long enough, love becomes warped.

We've only got ourselves to blame.

 

[Geralt]

see, however way you discuss it, you will always resort to making it a personal hate issue so you can feel good about yourself.

my last post was very clear, Jesus expects moral change from a sinner He forgives, which translates to behavior change.

Joh 8:11 She answered, No one, Lord! And Jesus said, I do not condemn you either. Go on your way and from now on sin no more. ​

this means a practicing homosexual who accepts and believes Christ should no longer be a practicing homosexual.
no such thing as a homosexual christian. scripture says:

2Co_5:17 Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; the old has gone, the new has come!​

since you agree that homosexuality is a sin, i am amazed you dont even see this clearly.
there is such a thing as hypocrisy you know.
​

If you consider the love of God to be "ridiculous" then this discussion is over. You continue on your unforgiving, angry, homophobic way and I'll go mine.

 

[Cearbhall]

There is a book entitled "The gay report: Lesbians and gay men speak out about sexual experiences and lifestyles" (1977). In the above book some homosexuals (both lesbians and gay men) are involved in the following practices: Sadomasochism, using a fist for sexual purposes, urination, defecation and enemas, Sex with animals, Fetishes, Prostitution, Threesomes and Orgies, Using drugs, sexual aids (toys, oils, pornography) exhibitionism, masturbation, and for men some fantasizes about boys and youths.

I'm confused, are you under the impression that heterosexual individuals have never heard of or engaged in these practices?

 

[pescador]

Many people around the world has been duped into believing that homosexuality is normal and should be allowed. That gay people are fighting for their rights etc That gay people get sexually transmitted diseases and cannot get treatment because of discrimination


There is a book entitled "The gay report: Lesbians and gay men speak out about sexual experiences and lifestyles" (1977). In the above book some homosexuals (both lesbians and gay men) are involved in the following practices: Sadomasochism, using a fist for sexual purposes, urination, defecation and enemas, Sex with animals, Fetishes, Prostitution, Threesomes and Orgies, Using drugs, sexual aids (toys, oils, pornography) exhibitionism, masturbation, and for men some fantasizes about boys and youths.


The above shows how dangerous the gay lifestyle is and how it threatens us all. Some may argue that heterosexuals do the above as well, but what seems to be happening is that gay sexual practices are being used by heterosexuals without knowing that their activities originates in the gay community.


The reason why homosexuals have the highest rate of diseases is as a direct result of activities they participate in. Therefore the following popular notion that "discrimination resulting in gay individuals being unable to access health service" is a complete lie.


For persons who are researches I recommend getting a copy of "The gay report: Lesbians and gay men speak out about sexual experiences and lifestyles' 1977. Persons need to be fully aware of homosexual practices which is impacting heavily on the health of all nations.


Be aware as well that bisexuals are providing a bridge between the gay and heterosexual community, which means heterosexuals are at a higher risk than normal of getting sexual transmitted diseases.

It is obvious that you have a predetermined agenda but it's also obvious that no objective person will accept it. So there is a single book, written almost forty years ago, that espouses this nonsense. You seize it as though it is the Bible and try to convince everyone that it is true.

All one has to do is look at the world around us and interact with LGBTs to know that it's total nonsense. The truth is almost the exact opposite of these lies, which are created by somebody who obviously has disturbing sexual fantasies.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

....
my last post was very clear, Jesus expects moral change from a sinner He forgives, which translates to behavior change.

Joh 8:11 She answered, No one, Lord! And Jesus said, I do not condemn you either. Go on your way and from now on sin no more. ​

this means a practicing homosexual who accepts and believes Christ should no longer be a practicing homosexual.
no such thing as a homosexual christian. scripture says:

2Co_5:17 Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; the old has gone, the new has come!​

since you agree that homosexuality is a sin, i am amazed you dont even see this clearly.
there is such a thing as hypocrisy you know.​

Yes and Amein and even moreso- God requires a total life change (not at all limited to nor defined by "moral change" but much more than that)
in anyone
who seeks His Kingdom.
This is SO RARE, that it is WRITTEN: others will gladly ACCEPT YOU and pat you on the back a friends
UNTIL
they find out that the Living Creator you serve
REQUIRES
a total life change;
THEN
they will turn on you gnashing at you with their teeth , vicious at you,

..................
and
"when they kill you, they will believe they are actually doing God a favor"

so God destroys them on Judgment Day,
SURPRISE !

 

[waves]

I'm confused, are you under the impression that heterosexual individuals have never heard of or engaged in these practices?

I am saying that heterosexuals do participate in sexual activities originating in the gay community, but many heterosexuals do not know these sex acts originated from the gay community.

I also wanted to mention that in the book some homosexuals practice role playing, incest, promiscuity such as gay cruising as well.

 

[waves]

It is obvious that you have a predetermined agenda but it's also obvious that no objective person will accept it. So there is a single book, written almost forty years ago, that espouses this nonsense. You seize it as though it is the Bible and try to convince everyone that it is true.

All one has to do is look at the world around us and interact with LGBTs to know that it's total nonsense. The truth is almost the exact opposite of these lies, which are created by somebody who obviously has disturbing sexual fantasies.

So you are saying that I have disturbing sexual fantasies, sorry but I don't. I bought the book with the intention of seeing for myself a list of sexual activities gay persons are involved. As a matter of fact I have had this book for about a year, and a few days ago was the first time I looked through some of it.

 

[Cearbhall]

I am saying that heterosexuals do participate in sexual activities originating in the gay community, but many heterosexuals do not know these sex acts originated from the gay community.

I'm not aware that these originated in the gay community...? Could you source that, please?

 

[pescador]

So you are saying that I have disturbing sexual fantasies, sorry but I don't. I bought the book with the intention of seeing for myself a list of sexual activities gay persons are involved. As a matter of fact I have had this book for about a year, and a few days ago was the first time I looked through some of it.

I suggest that you put it down, or better yet, throw it in the trash. Try to look for some objective truth rather than th propaganda found in a single, four decades old book. Why don't you talk to some LGBTs and ask them about their sexual activity, then do the same for "straight" people?

Here's something else that might start you off on the right track: watch and/or read the news and see how many sexual abusers, rapists, voyeurs, etc. are gay. To my knowledge, NONE of them are.

Finally, look in the Bible and see how often homosexuality is mentioned compared to other sins. The other sins are mentioned far more frequently so there is really no purpose in focusing on a single behavior while neglecting the others.

 

[waves]

I'm not aware that these originated in the gay community...? Could you source that, please?

In my experience while searching about specific sexual experiences gay person partake in, it is too lewd to show even from Wikipedia. As a result have been difficult to do indepth research.

 

[waves]

I suggest that you put it down, or better yet, throw it in the trash. Try to look for some objective truth rather than th propaganda found in a single, four decades old book. Why don't you talk to some LGBTs and ask them about their sexual activity, then do the same for "straight" people?

Here's something else that might start you off on the right track: watch and/or read the news and see how many sexual abusers, rapists, voyeurs, etc. are gay. To my knowledge, NONE of them are.

Finally, look in the Bible and see how often homosexuality is mentioned compared to other sins. The other sins are mentioned far more frequently so there is really no purpose in focusing on a single behavior while neglecting the others.

The Gay Report is considered to be a respected book in the gay community.

The gay report: Lesbians and gay men speak out about sexual experiences and lifestyles

The gay report on sexually transmitted diseases

 

[Cearbhall]

The reason why homosexuals have the highest rate of diseases is as a direct result of activities they participate in.

Actually, sex between women is safer than sex between a man and a woman. From a medical perspective, I would personally be better off having only gay sex. Yet I've never heard anyone argue that male-on-female sexual activity is inherently immoral because of the relative riskiness of it.

 

[pescador]

The Gay Report is considered to be a respected book in the gay community.

The gay report: Lesbians and gay men speak out about sexual experiences and lifestyles

The gay report on sexually transmitted diseases

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1619871/pdf/amjph00669-0030.pdf

I'm sure it is -- not. No book that contains the kind of "facts" that you cite would be would be welcomed by LGBTs.

Here is a quote from the .pdf you cite above, "All study samples of gay men are seriously flawed because no one knows the magnitude or basic characteristics of the homosexual population in the United States."

If it is a "respected book" then you're selecting certain parts (unverified) to post derogatory comments about LGBTS, therefore misrepresenting the book.

 

[waves]

Actually, sex between women is safer than sex between a man and a woman. From a medical perspective, I would personally be better off having only gay sex. Yet I've never heard anyone argue that male-on-female sexual activity is inherently immoral because of the relative riskiness of it.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4470884/


God makes it very clear that fornication is a sin, therefore heterosexuals who fornicate is sinning. Having sex outside of marriage is risky for heterosexuals.

By the way lesbians do get sexual transmitted diseases for example herpes, syphilis, and HIV

 

[Cearbhall]

God makes it very clear that fornication is a sin, therefore heterosexuals who fornicate is sinning. Having sex outside of marriage is risky for heterosexuals.

Why are you moving the goalposts? You are the one who used a medical argument. I responded. By the logic of your own argument, I should only have sex with other women. If having unnecessarily risky sex is a sin, then heterosexual sexual activity is a sin for women. Your argument is self-defeating. The medical reality only lines up with the theology in the case of men.

By the way lesbians do get sexual transmitted diseases for example herpes, syphilis, and HIV

Where did I say they didn't? Of course they do. They're human. I only pointed out that sex between women is the safest. Again, this argument of yours is completely useless against lesbian sex because heterosexual sex is a better way to get these diseases. If you speak out against lesbian sex in a medical context, you are advocating against heterosexual activity as well.

 

[waves]

I'm sure it is -- not. No book that contains the kind of "facts" that you cite would be would be welcomed by LGBTs.

Here is a quote from the .pdf you cite above, "All study samples of gay men are seriously flawed because no one knows the magnitude or basic characteristics of the homosexual population in the United States."

If it is a "respected book" then you're selecting certain parts (unverified) to post derogatory comments about LGBTS, therefore misrepresenting the book.

I am not misrepresenting any book


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karla_Jay


http://tvceli.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/GayReport.pdf


When looking at the gay report I start with the table of contents and go to pages that talks about these activities. All the activities that I mentioned are found in the book.

Lesbian and gays were interviewed and gave responses according to the book it self. Some gay persons participated in these activities.

I do not know whether or not serious flaws were apart of the studies. That what the author of the article said.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

I bought the book with the intention of seeing for myself a list of sexual activities gay persons are involved.

Did you never realize,
did no one ever warn you, (according to all Scripture),
that just to even have such a book is defiling and repugnant ?

Like unto the books on witchcraft, that those who became immersed in Yeshua were saved from,
and they brought all the books on witchcraft and burned them all. (thousands of dollars worth burned to ashes).

 

[waves]

Why are you moving the goalposts? You are the one who used a medical argument. I responded. By the logic of your own argument, I should only have sex with other women. If having unnecessarily risky sex is a sin, then heterosexual sexual activity is a sin for women. Your argument is self-defeating. The medical reality only lines up with the theology in the case of men.

Where did I say they didn't? Of course they do. They're human. I only pointed out that sex between women is the safest. Again, this argument of yours is completely useless against lesbian sex because heterosexual sex is a better way to get these diseases. If you speak out against lesbian sex in a medical context, you are advocating against heterosexual activity as well.

A woman cannot have sex with another woman. Lesbians are compensating for the fact they cannot have sex, by exploring other ways and means other than sex to satisfy themselves, and these activities are dangerous such as oral sex and some other activities I cannot list because it is explicit.

I have listed activities of both gay men and women in the very first post.

Both gay men and gay women cannot have sex the normal way. As a result they have come up with various methods to satisfy themselves sexually outside of normal sex sex. This is why anal sex, oral sex, fisting, water sports, sex toys, sadomachism and other methods are used.

 

[Cearbhall]

A woman cannot have sex with another woman.

Yes, they can...sex =/= penile-vaginal intercourse. Sure, one colloquial definition of the word limits it to such, but we're speaking medically.

Lesbians are compensating for the fact they cannot have sex, by exploring other ways and means other than sex to satisfy themselves, and these activities are dangerous such as oral sex and some other activities I cannot list because it is explicit.

You mean other forms of sex. They are still having sex. Sex = sexual activity.

I assumed it would be clear that I was comparing apples and apples. Vanilla sex and vanilla sex. Obviously a vanilla het couple is not going to run into as many health risks as an extremely adventurous lesbian couple. People also vary in their awareness of proper precautions.

I have listed activities of both gay men and women in the very first post.

And you and I have both already recognized that these are not, in fact, gay activities. They're just sexual activities in which people of all genders and orientations participate. There are very few things that can only be achieved by same-sex couples. Penile-anal intercourse would be one example. There's hardly anything that two women can do that can't be done by an opposite-sex couple (with more health risks due to the combination of genitalia).

Both gay men and gay women cannot have sex the normal way.

This doesn't mean anything medically. There's no "normal." Do you mean that they can't reproduce together?

As a result they have come up with various methods to satisfy themselves sexually outside of normal sex sex. This is why anal sex, oral sex, fisting, water sports, sex toys, sadomachism and other methods are used.

Believe me, you should read up on the history of sex a bit more. Straight people didn't need help coming up with these things.

 

[waves]

Did you never realize,
did no one ever warn you, (according to all Scripture),
that just to even have such a book is defiling and repugnant ?

Like unto the books on witchcraft, that those who became immersed in Yeshua were saved from,
and they brought all the books on witchcraft and burned them all. (thousands of dollars worth burned to ashes).

I do a lot of research, and to prove what I am saying I buy books, that can help me to understand better what I am dealing with. How can the church talk about the consequences of homosexuality, if they don't know the sexual activities gay men and women are involved in.

I have also searched satanic bibles and if I did not do that, I wouldn't have been able to connect atheism to satanism in an in-depth way. I wouldn't be able to even understand how to recognize satanism.