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Homosexuality and the plank
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Inspired
only hurts when I breathe
http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/february/21/newsid_2565000/2565197.stm
And the even more popular Religious-Public-Figure pervert
And the even more popular Religious-Public-Figure pervert
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The school receives public funding, correct? The same people fighting so hard to keep Christian schools from being able to use vouchers are advocating a government funded school for homosexuals.... Hypocrisy, anyone?
And Inspired... I'm afraid to say I chuckled when I got to the link given... Somehow, I think I would have heard of it from somewhere OTHER than a random and unsupported homepage clearly dedicated to fighting against Christianity. Quote a true source like TIME or NY Times or anything other than a personal webpage... Please, that's called slander, I believe.
800% agreed.
And Inspired... I'm afraid to say I chuckled when I got to the link given... Somehow, I think I would have heard of it from somewhere OTHER than a random and unsupported homepage clearly dedicated to fighting against Christianity. Quote a true source like TIME or NY Times or anything other than a personal webpage... Please, that's called slander, I believe.
KatebTheChaotic said:
800% agreed.
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Inspired
only hurts when I breathe
bulldog86 said:
The school doesn't discriminate on who can go there, any student regardless of their sexual orientation can go.
I did that just to prove a point, every time sweetkitty posts something it's from some militant anti-gay site.
And you are 17, this happened over 30 years before you were born, you wouldn't have heard anything about it on the news.
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Those of you that do not feel in bondage are truly decieved. Not one of yaw were born into that lifestyle. God loves you and he died for you to set you free from this perversion. What you dont realize is that you are so closed minded to reality its sad. Jesus loves each and everyone of you. He does not hate you he just hates the lifestyle that yaw have chosen upon yourselves. You need to realize that you can be given up to a reprobate mind if you dont head to the warnings of Jesus Christ God himself who came as a man to take our sins upon him. Let me put a reprobate mind into simple terms. This means that you will have people try to show you truth and you will reject it over and over until the point will come when you will never be able to recieve the truth. Read Romans 1-23-27 or Romans 8-23-30. When you go and stand before God (Jesus) some day. He is going to let those of yaw that stayed in this life style that you had a chance to leave this evil way of living then each of you will have to answer to God as to why you chose evil over good. I feel bad for alot of yaw because you are so caught up in the deception people are telling you that some of you actually believe this is a normal way to live. The Bible says that the wages of sin is death but the gift of God is eternal life. I have not one ounce of hatred in my heart towards any of you trapped in this life style. I have known many who were completely set free from this lifestyle. Many of them today live the way God made them to live as heterosexuals, wich is the way God made 100% of us to live. It is not his fawt some have chose to live different than the way he intended us to. To learn the truth about this lifestyle look at www.hopeforhomosexuals.com. I pray that many of you if not all would not keep rejecting truth. The Truth will set you free and will keep you that way.
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You are right that God loves you Inspired, but you seem to not believe anything he teaches. He gave us an instruction manual to live by. It is called the Bible it is his word and is 100% error free. It is holy and it is sacred. Maybe you should read it some time. His word says homosexuality is an un natural lifestile. The truth should always be told. You were never born to be that way. You chose this way of living. The Bible said God made us in his image. He is not a homosexual. The people who tell you that God made you that way dont care one little bit about you. People who care tell the truth and dont water the truth down so you will not get offended. Sometimes yes the truth hurts. I know this through some things I have been through. It is not always easy to accept reality but at some point you have to. I was born a heterosexual and so were you if the truth be told. Maybe something happened to you that turned or pointed you in this direction. I had a cousin who was in the same lifestyle you are and come to find out years later he revealed that a priest had raped him when he went to school and he never told ayone about this. He eventually on his death bed asked God to forgive him for being a homosexual and he recieved Jesus into his life. A couple of seconds later he died. He did not die of Aids but of a heart attack because he was over weight. You can renounce your choice that you made and choose Jesus in your life. You really need Jesus because you are walking around in darkness without him. By believing the lies of Satan and the evil one you have actually accepted that you were born that way. This is a lie straight from the pit of hell. The Bible says that Satan is the father of lies. Ther is not one ounce of truth in him. You either have a serious case of denial or you have truly been his puppit in a game of deception. I will pray for you that God will open your eyes to the truth. It is hard for people to see the truth when they have been walking in darkness for so long. Jesus died for you and he loves you. I do not have any hatered aimed at you because if I did I would be just as decieved and the truth would not be in me.
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Except for the little bit about bats being birdsJEREMY O'ROURKE said:
Whether or not it is error free, it still leaves alot of room for interpretation as is obvious from the dozens of different branches of Christianity.
Atleast show the lady enough respect to read her posts. She stated quite clearly that she was born the way she is. I don't think it is for you to decide the why and how of her lifestyle.JEREMY O'ROURKE said:
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ERROR FREE? HARDLY!!!!
why dont you READ the darned thing and tell me it ALL makes concrete sense...YOU CANT! BECAUSE IT DOESNT MAKE ANY SENSE WHATSOEVER!!! GOD MAKES LIGHT BEFORE LIGHT SOURCES, HE MAKES MAN AND WOMAN TWICE IN TWO DIFFERENT SEQUENCES, HE PROMOTES EYE FOR AN EYE BUT NOT WHEN CAIN IS CONCERNED. HE KILLS EVERYONE IN THE FLOOD FOR THEM HAVING EVIL THOUGHTS AND THEN DECIDES NOT TO DO IT EVER AGAIN AFTERWARDS FOR THE SAME REASON...AND THATS JUST A FEW OF THE ABSURDITIES IN THE BIBLE. ITS ONLY THE BEGINNING OF GENESIS!!!
*breathes deeply* but I love to see when people can look past the hatred promoted by their own holy book to follow in the fake belief that jesus was compassionate and loving...(THIS IS ALL MY BELIEF AND THUS OPINION)
why dont you READ the darned thing and tell me it ALL makes concrete sense...YOU CANT! BECAUSE IT DOESNT MAKE ANY SENSE WHATSOEVER!!! GOD MAKES LIGHT BEFORE LIGHT SOURCES, HE MAKES MAN AND WOMAN TWICE IN TWO DIFFERENT SEQUENCES, HE PROMOTES EYE FOR AN EYE BUT NOT WHEN CAIN IS CONCERNED. HE KILLS EVERYONE IN THE FLOOD FOR THEM HAVING EVIL THOUGHTS AND THEN DECIDES NOT TO DO IT EVER AGAIN AFTERWARDS FOR THE SAME REASON...AND THATS JUST A FEW OF THE ABSURDITIES IN THE BIBLE. ITS ONLY THE BEGINNING OF GENESIS!!!
*breathes deeply* but I love to see when people can look past the hatred promoted by their own holy book to follow in the fake belief that jesus was compassionate and loving...(THIS IS ALL MY BELIEF AND THUS OPINION)
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Whenever I get told the bible is without contradiction I like to pull out the last words pop quiz.
What were the dying words of Jesus?
a) my God, My God, why hast thou forsaken me?
b) It is finished.
c) Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit.
d) none of the above.
What were the dying words of Jesus?
a) my God, My God, why hast thou forsaken me?
b) It is finished.
c) Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit.
d) none of the above.
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a> backs up the muslims idea that christ was already in heaven and that this guy was a phony imbued with the physical characteristics of christ.
why would christ talk to himself like that...according to mosaic law he shoulda been stoned!
why would christ talk to himself like that...according to mosaic law he shoulda been stoned!
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Inspired said:
I was reading an article of Graham in NYTimes (?) about six months ago in which they did a rather long (as in, about five paragraphs) bio of the man... Somehow I doubt that either (a) they decided not to put that in there or (b) I forgot.
Volos said:
Oh please, let's at least make this difficult. You could at least pull out the "42" v. "21" argument....
Verses in NASB (Mark is not used because it is virtually identical to Matthew)
Matt. 27:46,50: "And about the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying, 'Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?' that is, 'My God, My God, why hast Thou forsaken Me?' " . . . . "And Jesus cried out again with a loud voice, and yielded up His spirit."
vs.
Luke 23:46: "And Jesus, crying out with a loud voice, said, 'Father, into Thy hands I commit My spirit.' And having said this, He breathed His last."
vs.
John 19:30: "When Jesus therefore had received the sour wine, He said, 'It is finished!' And He bowed His head, and gave up His spirit."
First to second is really very easy. The Matthew passage states that He cried out again in a loud voice (i/e, yelled Father into thy hands I commend My spirit). With the third one, John was almost assuredly closer to the cross, exhibited by the fact that, earlier in the chapter, the first disciple Jesus sees when looks down is John. As Christ is dying, the last words would probably be spoken quietly in a breathed whisper. Thus, John being closes would have been the only one to hear the last words....
Kateb, it's rather hard to pick apart your non-sensical post, but here goes.
"GOD MAKES LIGHT BEFORE LIGHT SOURCES"
Well, (a) if you read Revelation you'll find that God IS a light source Himself and (b) please, you're trying to tell me that the God of the Universe cannot make light without first creating a star... laughable.
"HE MAKES MAN AND WOMAN TWICE IN TWO DIFFERENT SEQUENCES"
After you've done a study in Hebrew poetry and it's generally non-chronological (or, rather, the "state, restate non-chronologically") style, THEN we'll talk.
"HE PROMOTES EYE FOR AN EYE BUT NOT WHEN CAIN IS CONCERNED."
What the...? How about a reference?
"HE KILLS EVERYONE IN THE FLOOD FOR THEM HAVING EVIL THOUGHTS AND THEN DECIDES NOT TO DO IT EVER AGAIN AFTERWARDS FOR THE SAME REASON..."
He decides not to destory the world with a flood because they have evil thoughts? .... ? Not so sure that's quite true.
"AND THATS JUST A FEW OF THE ABSURDITIES IN THE BIBLE."
*coughtryapplyinghermeneuticsproperlycough*
'scuse me. I think what you meant to say is, "That's just a few half-hearted and rather pathetic attempts by various websites to discredit Scripture and Christianity as a whole."
revolutio said:
Since we all know that scientific classification is ALWAYS right, that it NEVER changes, and that is most certainly NOT subjective.(In case some of you didn't catch the saracasm, scientific classification is often proved incorrect and is thus changed/adjusted to fit new evidence. Additionally, the system is inherently subjective. Even the basic criteria for WHY we group animals has changed and will continue to change. The groupings are NOT truly scientific BECAUSE they are subjective... ahem)
Since I'm not entirely comfortable seeing my thread get hijacked by contradiction/innaccuracy arguments, please start some other thread. And, regardless, try checking here to see if it's already been addressed and dismantled... I'd rather like to avoid repeating myself or quoting someone else if it's at all possible.
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how bout this bulldog...i meant to say what i said...You cant turn my words around...any literal reading of the bible..would drive any logical person from the faith...this is of course, coupled with my experiences of christians being very hostile (like you) toward me
Perhaps those of you who discredit science do so because you actually believe the word of god (which is actually the word of god as interpreted by various people) is infallible...well, science makes no such claim. Science is knowledge and knowledge changes. Christianity is the lack of knowledge, we explain things we dont understand like the origins of the universe by saying...oh, GOD did it.
Its as if here in america we are fighting over Grisham novels...stop the myths!
Perhaps those of you who discredit science do so because you actually believe the word of god (which is actually the word of god as interpreted by various people) is infallible...well, science makes no such claim. Science is knowledge and knowledge changes. Christianity is the lack of knowledge, we explain things we dont understand like the origins of the universe by saying...oh, GOD did it.
Its as if here in america we are fighting over Grisham novels...stop the myths!
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You're right about one thing. I WAS a little "hostile" or unfriendly. For that, I apologize. I am sorry.
The rest I couldn't disagree with more... but it's really pointless to argue it.
The rest I couldn't disagree with more... but it's really pointless to argue it.
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