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I saw a post by one bahai member (In the thread bahaism under trial) saying exactly this.
If you don't accept bahaullah as prophet you go to hell.
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Not a proper Baha'i attitude given what our scriptures say. I quote:
[FONT='Times New Roman','serif']"There can be no doubt whatever that the peoples of the world, of whatever race or religion, derive their inspiration from one heavenly Source, and are the subjects of one God. The difference between the ordinances under which they abide should be attributed to the varying requirements and exigencies of the age in which they were revealed. All of them, except a few which are the outcome of human perversity, were ordained of God, and are a reflection of His Will and Purpose. Arise and, armed with the power of faith, shatter to pieces the gods of your vain imaginings, the sowers of dissension amongst you. Cleave unto that which draweth you together and uniteth you."[/FONT]
[FONT='Times New Roman','serif'] [/FONT]
[FONT='Times Ext Roman','serif'][/FONT][FONT='Times New Roman','serif'](The Proclamation of Baha'u'llah[/FONT][FONT='Times New Roman','serif'], p. 114;[/FONT]
[FONT='Arial','sans-serif']also[/FONT][FONT='Times New Roman','serif'] Gleanings, CXI, pp. 217-8)[/FONT]
And CLEARLY what you recount is not a desireable Baha'i attitude!
Peace,
Bruce
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I had to do some googling to see if what you said is iron tight.
it seems those who disbelieve have wratch,venegeance of god on them.Actually it says bahaullah wishes so.
from the bahai site about the bahai house of justice. Will and Testament of Abdu'l-Bahá
Whatsoever they decide is of God. Whoso obeyeth him not, neither obeyeth them, hath not obeyed God; whoso rebelleth against him and against them hath rebelled against God; whoso opposeth him hath opposed God; whoso contendeth with them hath contended with God; whoso disputeth with him hath disputed with God; whoso denieth him hath denied God; whoso disbelieveth in him hath disbelieved in God; whoso deviateth, separateth himself and turneth aside from him hath in truth deviated, separated himself and turned aside from God. May the wrath, the fierce indignation, the vengeance of God rest upon him
it seems those who disbelieve have wratch,venegeance of god on them.Actually it says bahaullah wishes so.
from the bahai site about the bahai house of justice. Will and Testament of Abdu'l-Bahá
Whatsoever they decide is of God. Whoso obeyeth him not, neither obeyeth them, hath not obeyed God; whoso rebelleth against him and against them hath rebelled against God; whoso opposeth him hath opposed God; whoso contendeth with them hath contended with God; whoso disputeth with him hath disputed with God; whoso denieth him hath denied God; whoso disbelieveth in him hath disbelieved in God; whoso deviateth, separateth himself and turneth aside from him hath in truth deviated, separated himself and turned aside from God. May the wrath, the fierce indignation, the vengeance of God rest upon him
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'"Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah ; and those with him are forceful against the disbelievers, merciful among themselves. You see them bowing and prostrating [in prayer], seeking bounty from Allah and [His] pleasure. Their mark is on their faces from the trace of prostration. That is their description in the Torah. And their description in the Gospel is as a plant which produces its offshoots and strengthens them so they grow firm and stand upon their stalks, delighting the sowers - so that Allah may enrage by them the disbelievers. Allah has promised those who believe and do righteous deeds among them forgiveness and a great reward.''[48:29]
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