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i just believe what the bible says:
Psalms 119:172(NKJV)
172 My tongue shall speak of Your word, For all Your commandments are righteousness.
But how do we stay raised-or how do we gauge when we're falling?
Noah had direct communication from God-I doubt your experience has fallen along the same lines. But while I understand your point, that grace should keep us free from wanting to sin, the flesh still wants its way, and so concupiscence remains a struggle for us.Christ in us can speak. How did Noah know to build a boat?
no ones justified by the law.... but by faith...Then start understanding the power of sin is the law, 1 cor 15;56.
Noah had direct communication from God-I doubt your experience has fallen along the same lines. But while I understand your point, that grace should keep us free from wanting to sin, the flesh still wants its way, and so concupiscence remains a struggle for us.
"Under the law", to my understanding, means that our motivation for obedience should not come via our own righteousness (because we don't really possess any righteousness anyway), but from the righteousness of God via grace. Either way the Law still stands as righteous, itself, as it comes from God and expresses His righteousness, and should confirm and resonate with the internal Law He writes on our hearts.
no ones justified by the law.... but by faith...
but that does not mean we can sin still
living in sin
and doing sin through weakness
are two completely different things
I don't believe for a moment that you receive the kind of communication Noah must have received. It's possible, but God simply doesn't communicate that way in this world, even to believers, normatively. That's simply the honest truth.I don't understand why you think Noah had a deeper ability to hear God, we have Christ in us.
The law wouldn't be called holy and good and spiritual if it does not express Gods righteousness. God wants us obedient, but not legalistic.The scriptures say, that law is not God's righteousness, but faith is.
You're right, the law is not the answer to becoming obedient to God, because no one is justified by the Law. But we'll all be judged by the Law because the Law is right. We must come to obey by grace, rather than by our own efforts. God must "write His laws on our hearts and in our minds".Yes, the flesh and Spirit to envy, but law is not the answer, unless you can show me how?
Yes, faith is the beginning of our walk with God, once we've received the grace to accept it. Otherwise we're just pretending to be holy by trying to follow His law, because our obedience will not be motivated by grace.That is why Abraham, was justified by faith, and the already justified Galatians, were reminded to live by faith, with the Abrahamic reference, not LIVE by law in Galatians. Abe did not have the law.
God does speak whenever and to whomever He so desires, but the kind of direct, specific information as would've been given to Noah fall under the rubric of locutions, or some such thing IMO, and are very rare. I know people who've received such experiences and they're generally profound beyond words.I disagree, God speaks whenever and to whomever He so desires. It does happen today. It happened from the beginning, in the Old Testament, in the New Testament, and today.
"God wants us to be obedient, but not legalistic". AgreedHowever, we must define what legalism is, correct? I think some of us think that simply being 'legal' is legalism already, whereas I see legalism as 1) using the law to justify and 2) following traditions and burdens that are apart or in excess to the law.
Faith -> Obedience.
So straighten us out. I think your just expressing things to get your way. We have given you permission to have it your way for you. We aren't about to give you permission to enslave uf to your bondage and level of pain and woe war. Most of us have fought that one one once upon a time.
Are you answering both questions with that one statement? Oh I having a little problem with the negative manner of statement here. Of course Paul is on a spiritual plane.
And those who demand the performance of the flesh according to the law are sowing in the flesh and will reap corruption just like you said.
To your verse, but your comments don't fit them. It is most unfortunate that you don't understand wht the verse says enough to apply them to your life.
Your qupte covers alot of ground. But NTL I think for the thread and forum in general my attitude is expressed very vell in verse 6 above. And I certianly apply verses 15 and 17 as you have bolded.
Now I'm deffinately a follower of Christ. Nothing in verse 3 is manifest in my life. And when it comes to my relationship with God I'm certianly not light. I do enjoy a good joke, but I don't think that Paul is saying don't have any fun in life.
What do you give thanks for? The last Thanksgiving themed religious assembly I was in everybody including the pastor gave thanks for temporal thing and not one single person gave thanks for their salvation. I find it amazing. The supposed reason for the assembly was left out. Has God become the excuxe and not the reason.
Depends on who your referring to as the teacher. If it is Paul through the Holy Spirit I agree.
Nice posts of Scripture. But I do wonder why your posting them with the emphasis by bolding if you're not also preaching and in this case condemning others while upholding yourself. That is a no fly.
Amazing! simplly amazing I say amazing. This vividly demonstrates that you're here for something other than personal growth or the helpin of others. But you're providing a wonderful opportunity for the truth to be expressed.
You can stay down trodden and discouraged if you like. Personally I don't much care for misery and self debasement behavior.
I'm past my time limit as usual this morning, but I must go to town for business. Later folks.
was the law the answer in eph? he just got done calling it abolished, so how was law the answer? Again, we put off the old..try to understand that is what happened when u got saved, you died...you were raised, now just stay raised for crying out loud.
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