Holiness

[from scratch]

Sometimes the understanding comes from the doing; in obeying/doing the commands of Christ.

(Learning by doing is a human way of learning - including math )

In a way and in some circumstances yes.

 

[cubinity]

So I have a question. How can one do anything if they don't understand what they're being told to do?

They can do it the way they think they understand it, probably get portions of it incorrect, and learn from those portions more about how to do it right the next time.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Originally Posted by from scratch So I have a question. How can one do anything if they don't understand what they're being told to do?

Sometimes the understanding comes from the doing; in obeying/doing the commands of Christ.

(Learning by doing is a human way of learning - including math )

That brings to mind this famouse discours by Jesus in John 14, where 3 of the Apostles were trying to understand Him

John 14:5 Thomas is saying to Him "Lord! not we are aware the-where Thou are going away, and how are able the way being aware?".

John 14:8 Phillip is saying to Him "Lord! show! to us the Father and is being sufficient to us".

John 14:22 Judas, [not the Iscarot] is saying to Him "Lord, what has become that to us Thou are being about to be showing Thyself and not to the world".

http://www.christianforums.com/t7391061/#post52559491
John Chapter 14

 

[11822]

Do you see how alot of your posts are based of a 'we have to' kind of mindset? Interesting.

We as followers is what i mean. If i said i you might observe that i say "I" alot also.

 

[11822]

It is interesting if one looks back to the Greek. him that doeth is from a word meaning procduces bears fruit. So him that bears fruit of righteousness is righteous.

I'm going to just try to stay away from all that evil and try to do all that is good. And pray for Gods help.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

I'm going to just try to stay away from all that evil and try to do all that is good. And pray for Gods help.

That is all any of us can do :o

I also recommend checking various bible versions for the use of the word "evil" tho

Strong's Concordance with Hebrew and Greek Lexicon

Blue Letter Bible - Search Results for YLT
"evil"
occurs 872 times in 811 verses in the YLT

Last time used in Bible YLT:

Young) Revelation 17:3 and he carried me away to a wilderness in the Spirit, and I saw a woman sitting upon a scarlet-coloured beast, full of names of evil-speaking, having seven heads and ten horns,

Blue Letter Bible - Search Results for KJV
"evil"
occurs 613 times in 569 verses in the KJV

Last time used in Bible KJV:

KJV) Revelation 2:2 I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars:


And as this wise one once said:

False prophets in Daniel in the Bible. Revived Roman Empire, Beast of the Apocalypse of Mark, and Antiochus the Selucid Greek

.......As I have noticed while comparing translations of different verses in the Bible, even the most literal translations can suddenly depart from literalism, perhaps visit the Greek Septuagint and abandon the Hebrew translation for a single verse, whenever some highly cherished doctrine might be threatened by a truly literal translation.

Rule of thumb : you should never, ever rely exclusively on one single translation.)

 

[11822]

That is all any of us can do :o

I also recommend checking various bible versions for the use of the word "evil" tho

Strong's Concordance with Hebrew and Greek Lexicon

Blue Letter Bible - Search Results for YLT
"evil"
occurs 872 times in 811 verses in the YLT

Last time used in Bible YLT:

Young) Revelation 17:3 and he carried me away to a wilderness in the Spirit, and I saw a woman sitting upon a scarlet-coloured beast, full of names of evil-speaking, having seven heads and ten horns,

Blue Letter Bible - Search Results for KJV
"evil"
occurs 613 times in 569 verses in the KJV

Last time used in Bible KJV:

KJV) Revelation 2:2 I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars:


And as this wise one once said:

False prophets in Daniel in the Bible. Revived Roman Empire, Beast of the Apocalypse of Mark, and Antiochus the Selucid Greek

.......As I have noticed while comparing translations of different verses in the Bible, even the most literal translations can suddenly depart from literalism, perhaps visit the Greek Septuagint and abandon the Hebrew translation for a single verse, whenever some highly cherished doctrine might be threatened by a truly literal translation.

Rule of thumb : you should never, ever rely exclusively on one single translation.)

Amen bro.

 

[from scratch]

I'm going to just try to stay away from all that evil and try to do all that is good. And pray for Gods help.

That is a good idea and will serve you well.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Originally Posted by LittleLambofJesus
That is all any of us can do :o

KJV) Revelation 2:2 I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars:

Amen bro.

You may want to check out this thread...I am going to be devoting much of my time on it for awhile

http://www.christianforums.com/t7591390/
What about those 7 Assemblies in Revelation

 

[brinny]

....been meditating on this.....seems that "holiness" involves "fearing" God. (Actually, "fearing God" would be a good study as well, since holiness and fearing God goes hand-in-hand)

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

....been meditating on this.....seems that "holiness" involves "fearing" God. (Actually, "fearing God" would be a good study as well, since holiness and fearing God goes hand-in-hand)

http://www.christianforums.com/t7586281/
Do you fear God

The fear of God includes putting aside what we think and want as well as what others think and going with what Yahweh wants. Afterall, we won't listen to Him if we think our opinions are more important than His. Our lives are so much better when we commit to His opinions and ways because it's the beginning of real wisdom.

 

[from scratch]

http://www.christianforums.com/t7586281/
Do you fear God

NO! I'm not scared of God. I do have a healthy respect for and of Him though. And that is exactly what the word fear means in Mat 10:28. The word fear is used in 2 ways in the verse.

 

[brinny]

NO! I'm not scared of God. I do have a healthy respect for and of Him though. And that is exactly what the word fear means in Mat 10:28. The word fear is used in 2 ways in the verse.

It took me a while, but "fearing" God is not what i first thought it was....it's worth a study....i'm gonna go check out LLOJ's link on it now.

 

[brinny]

"The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding." ~Proverbs 9:10

 

[brinny]

Holy is the way God is. To be holy he does not conform to a standard. He is that standard. He is absolutely holy with an infinite, incomprehensible fullness of purity that is incapable of being other than it is. Because he is holy, all his attributes are holy; that is, whatever we think of as belonging to God must be thought of as holy. ~A.W. Tozer

 

[from scratch]

"The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding." ~Proverbs 9:10

So what is this fear?

 

[brinny]

So what is this fear?

That, my brother, is an EXCELLENT question.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Originally Posted by from scratch NO! I'm not scared of God. I do have a healthy respect for and of Him though. And that is exactly what the word fear means in Mat 10:28. The word fear is used in 2 ways in the verse.

Originally Posted by from scratch So what is this fear?

That, my brother, is an EXCELLENT question.

As Winthorpe said to Valentine on the last great day of the Orange Juice meltdown in the movie "Trading Places":
"Fear, that's the other guy's problem"
[because of "language", I can't post the utube for that scene, but u can find it on google.
It even shows the twin towers in that scene ]

Blue Letter Bible - Lexicon
Strong's Number G5401 matches the Greek φόβος (phobos), which occurs 47 times in 44 verses in the Greek concordance
AV — fear 41, terror 3, misc 3

http://www.christianforums.com/t7461118/#post54553876
Lazarus and 2 witnesses of Reve 11 similarity

KJV) Revelation 11:11 And after three days and a half the Spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet;
and great fear/foboV <5401> fell upon them which saw them.

 

[Frogster]

NO! I'm not scared of God. I do have a healthy respect for and of Him though. And that is exactly what the word fear means in Mat 10:28. The word fear is used in 2 ways in the verse.

 

[JRSut1000]

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