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A series of lectures worth listening to.

Truth in History

Yours in the Lord,

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Jesuits Created The Secret Rapture & 7 Year Tribulation, & Both Are False Doctrines And Unbiblical

 

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Two different schools of prophetic interpretation were promulgated by two different Jesuit scholars as a response to the Historicism of the Protestant Reformation teaching that the Papal system of false doctrine was in fact the Antichrist prophesied in Scripture (the "little horn" of Dan. 7; the "man of sin, son of perdition" of 2 Thes. 2:3-4; the "sea beast" of Rev. 13:1-10; and the "scarlet harlot" of Rev. 17).

 

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In the near future, the world leaders have given up their power to Vatican City. While most rejoice at the thought of world peace and religious tolerance, Shane Turner and his Leap Crew aren't buying into it. It's not long before they identify the papal power as the Antichrist, the Beast of Revelation and speak out against it. In response, the Vatican sets out to hunt down the Leap Crew. The end has begun.

 

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Not a bad intro.

 

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In this book, Robert Caringola gives the reader a glimpse into the vast array of information which the Historicist view offers in Biblical and historical knowledge. He, along with some of the most wise and learned scholars of the historic Protestant Church set forth truths that thousands of God's saints have taught and even suffered martyrdom for in promoting the Historicist perspective of Biblical prophecy.

 

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This study will look at what the Word of God says about the rapture (catching up of the saints), as too many people speculate about the meaning of verses, while the Bible is very straight-forward about the sequence of events.

The 70th week of Daniel was fulfilled on time, after the 69th week, when Messiah confirmed the Everlasting New Covenant with His blood sacrifice. He and His disciples offered the Gospel to the Jews for 7 years, after which it was also offered to the Gentiles. So it can’t be a future 7-year tribulation period, which invalidates the concept of a pre-tribulation rapture. To read a Bible study that proves this, click on
70 Weeks Of Daniel Deception

In Matthew 28:18-20, Messiah said He would be with us unto the end of the world, not just until a pre-trib rapture.

“And Jesus came and spoke unto them, saying, all power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world.”

In John 6:40, 44 and 54, Messiah repeatedly tells us that He will raise up the dead at the last day.

“And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have everlasting life; and I will raise him up at the last day.”

“No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up at the last day.”

“Whoever eats My flesh and drinks My blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day.”

1 Thessalonians 5:2 says that the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night to those who are in spiritual darkness.

“For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.”

Then verses 4-6 say “But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief. Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness. Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober.”

If we are abiding in Messiah’s light, then we won’t be caught by surprise.

1 Corinthians 15:51-52 says that the dead shall rise at the last trumpet

“Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed”

The followers of Messiah who are alive when Jesus returns, will be changed AFTER the dead rise, at the END.

Revelation 11:15, “And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign forever and ever.”

1 Thessalonians 4:15-17 tells us the rapture won’t be secret and that we’ll be ‘caught up’ after the dead rise first.

“For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent (precede) them which are asleep. For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.”

This is the same ‘not so secret’ event as Matthew 24:29-31, where the dead rise first, then the alive saints.

In John 16:33, Messiah told us we would have tribulation, “These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.”

Paul tells us in I Thessalonians 5:9, to be sober in waiting for the return of Messiah, but we will not face His wrath.

“But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for a helmet, the hope of salvation. For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ.”

So the Bible is telling us that people in the end of time will go through tribulation and will face the beast system. At the end, the dead will rise and then the living elect will be caught up in the air to meet Messiah.

Then His wrath will be poured out on the Earth to judge those who have rejected Him.

Messiah will come for His bride on the Feast of the Trumpets.

God gave the Israelites seven feasts to celebrate, all which pointed to the promised Messiah. Messiah has fulfilled four of the feasts, such as when He died as the Passover lamb, in exact detail at the precise time.

The next feast to be fulfilled is the Feast of Trumpets, which represents Jesus return for His bride.

Knowing that Messiah is exact in His fulfillment of prophecy, and knowing that the Feast of Trumpets represents Jesus return for His bride, we know the context of Jesus return.

“Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed”
1 Corinthians 15:51-52

“For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.”
1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

Is it not logical that Messiah will return during the Feast of Trumpets?

10 days after the Feast of Trumpets is the Feast of Atonement, when Christ will judge His Church.

15 days after the Feast of Trumpets is the Feast of Tabernacles, when we will celebrate the wedding feast.

So you can clearly see that the judgment and wedding feast occur shortly after Messiah returns to gather His bride, not seven years beforehand.

To read more about the seven feasts and how they point to Jesus second coming, click on No One Knows The Day And Hour Of Jesus Return

The “Marriage Supper of the Lamb” is at the end, not 7 years before Messiah returns on His white horse.

Revelation 19:8-9 says that the bride is not ready until Revelation 19 and we are at the END of tribulation!

“Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honor to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready. And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.”

Then two sentences later in verse 11 we find the “Second Coming of Messiah”,

“And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.”

As you can see, anyone who teaches that believers will be raptured, and will be at the wedding feast with Jesus, while everyone on Earth is enduring seven years of tribulation, is teaching contrary to the Word of Elohim.

Followers of Messiah have faced tribulation for the last 2,000 years, as it is part of our purification and testing.

Messiah’s disciples were persecuted and killed. Stephen the Apostle was stoned. Paul was beaten, stoned and persecuted. Millions of Christians have died at the hands of the Jews, the Romans and the Roman Catholic Church. Today, many Christians in other countries are being persecuted and killed for their faith.

Why would Elohim treat us any differently? Do we think that we are better than those who died for their faith?

Messiah told us in Revelation 3:14-16 that we are the Church of Laodicea, and He said that we are wretched, miserable, poor, blind and naked. And because we are ‘lukewarm’, He will spit us out of His mouth, unless we repent of our ways.

Do you understand how effective Satan’s pre-tribulation rapture myth has been?

It has caused us to not prepare for hardship, as the financial system collapses.
You need to be prepared, so that during times of tribulation, you can protect yourself and your family. If you don’t, then every day will be spent trying to survive, instead of being spent helping those around you. When the world is suffering in the last days, people will be more desperate than ever for the Good News of Messiah .

It has caused us to not be prepared spiritually and unable to discern the truth about Satan’s end time plans.

You need to be alert, so that you’re not deceived by false prophets who tell you that the rapture has happened, or that the Messiah has come. You need to be strong with the full armor of Elohim protecting you.

Satan will make the world desperate for a savior who can provide for them and give them peace.

With the pending financial collapse; worldwide shortages of food and water; increases in wars and violence; and then the appearance of a false messiah… the world will be ripe to accept the mark of the beast.

Revelation 12:12,17 says “woe to the ones dwelling on the Earth, because the devil came down to you having great anger, knowing that he has a little time!”, “he is enraged and will make war with those having the testimony of Christ.”

You need be prepared to give an answer for your faith, so that you don’t submit to the beast system and deny Messiah.

Antichrist is not just one man in the end, but a system that has been working since the time of Messiah.

Satan’s deception has caused Christians to look only to an end-time antichrist, instead of looking to all the institutions that have been antichrist for thousands of years, and are working against Christians, such as Babylonian Judaism and the Jesuits who control the Roman Catholic Church.

To read a Bible study about the ‘Little Horn of Daniel’ and the ‘Beast of Revelation’, click on The Beasts of Daniel and Revelation

Truth be told, nowhere in the Bible does it say there will be a 7 year tribulation

If you doubt that, ask your pastor where in the Bible it says that there will be a 7-year tribulation.

There will be great tribulation to be sure, but the pre-tribulation rapture myth is built around the concept of a 7-year tribulation, a futuristic 70th week of Daniel, that is not supported by the Bible.

Click here to see how a 70th Week of Daniel Antichrist and 7 Year Tribulation are NOT Biblical

Click here to learn that the 70th Week Of Daniel Prince is NOT an End Times Antichrist

Click here to see why an End Times Fulfillment of the 70th Week of Daniel is Illogical

Click here for a one-page PDF summary of this page.

The Pre-tribulation Rapture Myth – End Time Deceptions (christianitybeliefs.org)

 

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Religious Hard Talk with Ian Boyne & David Mould - Delving into Prophetic Matters (February 2013)

 

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I'm postmillennial but haven't made up my mind on historicism yet. Right now I lean preterist.

Where do preterism and historicism overlap?

 

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In this book, Robert Caringola gives the reader a glimpse into the vast array of information which the Historicist view offers in Biblical and historical knowledge. He, along with some of the most wise and learned scholars of the historic Protestant Church set forth truths that thousands of God's saints have taught and even suffered martyrdom for in promoting the Historicist perspective of Biblical prophecy.

I own two of his books, one on the 70 Weeks and his overview chapter by chapter commentary on Revelation.

 

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why is Atheism heavily promoted in Protestant Countries?

 

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why is Atheism heavily promoted in Protestant Countries?

Protestant countries?

 

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Protestant countries?

religious map of Europe showing protestant countries and regions




compare to this modern map of Europe showing belief in God. historical Protestant countries/regions have more people who do not believe in God. majority Catholic Countries have more people who believe in God

 

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religious map of Europe showing protestant countries and regions




compare to this modern map of Europe showing belief in God. historical Protestant countries/regions have more people who do not believe in God. majority Catholic Countries have more people who believe in God

I don't buy it. One can claim to be a Protestant and not be. The very fact that atheism is being promoted in these countries demonstrates that they are secular countries - not Protestant.

 

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The Truth About ATHEISM 2 - Jesuit Propaganda [Steven Greenblatt explains it's origin]

 

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old order in Europe

New Order

 

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The Truth About ATHEISM 3 - Deception [Arnold Thackery explains it's Logo]


The founders of Modern Atheism are described in the Dictionary as having the "intent to deceive" and scheming or plotting "to do something illicit or harmful". Find out who these demonic people are, and how they have used Atheism as a tool to ruin both lives & countries Find out who the "New Atheists" really are and what their role is in the "New World Order".

 

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why is Atheism heavily promoted in Protestant Countries?

The true reason for the rise of atheism in Protestant nations is that Protestantism led to the secularization of society. Dr. Steve Turley comments on the pernicious effects of secularism in his book, President Trump and Our Post-Secular Future: How the 2016 Election Signals the Dawning of a Conservative Nationalist Age,

“Scholars have long recognized that secularization is rooted in the notion of modernity. Modernity is comprised of the philosophical commitment to scientific rationalism as the sole objective mechanism for political, economic, and cultural management. Rooted in such rationalism, modernity sees all pre-modern societies, particularly those governed by religious commitments, as inherently irrational, and thus asserts itself as the one true political, economic, and cultural meaning system for all nations and peoples. In the twentieth-century, the West has proclaimed liberal democracy as the ultimate political system, the Soviet East proclaimed communism as the ultimate economic system, and Italy and Germany declared fascism as the ultimate cultural meaning system.”​

Secularization fostered a form of liberal authoritarianism in the West and such oppressive regimes as communism and fascism.

In The Quarterly Journal of Economics, November 2018, under the article, Religious Competition and Reallocation: The Political Economy of Secularization in the Protestant Reformation, by Davide Cantoni, Jeremiah Dittmar, and Noam Yuchtman, we read,

“religious competition shifts political markets where religious authorities provide legitimacy to rulers in exchange for control over resources”​

The authors’ thesis conveys that the Protestants consorted with the kings of the earth to favor secular projects instead of religious ones. In essence, they had intercourse with the kings of the earth to take away the church’s influence in society. By any rational account, this fulfills what John states about mystery Babylon,

“Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great harlot that sitteth upon many waters: With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication.” (Revelation 17:1-2)​

The article continues,

“Graduates of Protestant universities increasingly took secular, especially administrative, occupations. Protestant university students increasingly studied secular subjects, especially degrees that prepared students for public sector jobs, rather than church sector specific theology. Second, it affected the sectoral composition of fixed investment.”​

In other words, the dissident Protestants shifted society away from the Church sector to public sector occupations. This shift enhanced the state’s ability to develop nationality, increase its wealth, and expand its markets, which inevitably lead to the illustration of the rider of the white horse that “went forth conquering and to conquer.” This shift took peace from the earth as the Protestant nations fought over the world’s resources in their colonization of other dominions, as depicted by the rider of the red horse. Their machinations in the prices of goods and services led to surpluses and famines, as illustrated by the rider of the black horse. In due course, their economic upheaves in distant colonies led to great hardships for the indigenous, illustrated by the pale horse rider.