Hillary's Past

[JuliaBond]

...she often ran around her home completely nude. Shameful stuff really.

I have no problem with that.

 

[JoyJuice]

Name me one woman who was "accosted" in the Clinton White House?

You ever notice that a mention of Hillary, who I am not impressed with, always goes back to the viseral hate for her husband?

 

[ImmortalTechnique]

You ever notice that a mention of Hillary, who I am not impressed with, always goes back to the viseral hate for her husband?

its strange, really. Republicans hate Clinton for being succesful. They accuse Democrats of being crazy for hating Bush for being incompetent and a failure

 

[Conspiracy Theory]

its strange, really. Republicans hate Clinton for being succesful. They accuse Democrats of being crazy for hating Bush for being incompetent and a failure

No.

Clinton's just another excuse to pillory the Democrats who want a reform of the electoral college.

(Clinton never won the popular vote and for some reason, Democrats during his presidency didn't want to reform the electoral college..)

 

[ImmortalTechnique]

No.

Clinton's just another excuse to pillory the Democrats who want a reform of the electoral college.

(Clinton never won the popular vote and for some reason, Democrats during his presidency didn't want to reform the electoral college..)

riiiight... the mentions of Clinton earlier in the thread were because of the electoral college.

 

[Avatar]

(Clinton never won the popular vote and for some reason, Democrats during his presidency didn't want to reform the electoral college..)

He didn't? Did you just arrive from a parallel universe? So tell me who won the popular vote?

1992:

http://www.presidentelect.org/e1992.html

Clinton - 43%
GHW Bush - 37.4%
Perot - 18.9%

Who won the popular vote? Perot?

Or maybe Perot won in 1996?

http://www.fec.gov/pubrec/fe1996/summ.htm

Clinton - 49.2%
Dole - 40.7%
Perot - 8.4%

 

[MachZer0]

Name me one woman who was "accosted" in the Clinton White House?

Kathleen Willey

 

[JoshuaW]

Kathleen Willey

According to Linda Tripp’s grand jury testimony, Tripp felt Willey pursued a romance with Clinton from the start of her White House affiliation. Willey had speculated with Tripp as to how she might be able to set up an assignation between herself and the president. She routinely attended events at which Clinton would be present, wearing a black dress she believed he liked. According to Tripp’s testimony, she wondered if she and Clinton could arrange to meet in a home to which she had access, on the Chesapeake Bay. According to Tripp, Willey had arranged the meeting in part to see if her flirtation with Clinton might advance. After Clinton and Willey met privately, Willey rushed back to Tripp’s office to describe the meeting. According to Tripp, Willey “smiled from ear to ear the entire time” as she described the event.

If you are that shocked about an exaggerated incident from 1993, I suggest you pick up the paper tomorrow. You'll read about some more current incidents in the White House that should really spark your outrage.

 

[MachZer0]

If you are that shocked about an exaggerated incident from 1993, I suggest you pick up the paper tomorrow. You'll read about some more current incidents in the White House that should really spark your outrage.

And according to Willey's testimony, she was sexually assaulted.

 

[JoshuaW]

And according to Willey's testimony, she was sexually assaulted.

Willey told Tripp that she and Clinton had "smooched," but made no mention of a sexual assault.

The Final Report of the US Office of the Independent Counsel report noted that "Willey gave false information to the FBI about her sexual relationship with a former boyfriend, and acknowledged having lied about it when the agents confronted her with contradictory evidence. Following Willey’s acknowledgment of the lie, the Independent Counsel agreed not to prosecute her for false statements in this regard."
Willey has a history of controversial claims including telling the FBI she was pregnant and she had a miscarriage when she did not.

Thank you for your outrage, now why don't you turn your attention to more current issues, such as White House involvement in the destruction of torture tapes?

 

[MachZer0]

Thank you for your outrage, now why don't you turn your attention to more current issues, such as White House involvement in the destruction of torture tapes?

Fine. Show me some evidence that they were TORTURE tapes

 

[Conspiracy Theory]

He didn't? Did you just arrive from a parallel universe? So tell me who won the popular vote?

1992:

http://www.presidentelect.org/e1992.html

Clinton - 43%
GHW Bush - 37.4%
Perot - 18.9%

Who won the popular vote? Perot?

Or maybe Perot won in 1996?

http://www.fec.gov/pubrec/fe1996/summ.htm

Clinton - 49.2%
Dole - 40.7%
Perot - 8.4%

By win, I meant receive a clear majority.

Thanks for those numbers though. You've shown that the first time he ran, most people didn't want him to be president, and the second time he ran, most people didn't want him to be president.

 

[Avatar]

By win, I meant receive a clear majority.

Thanks for those numbers though. You've shown that the first time he ran, most people didn't want him to be president, and the second time he ran, most people didn't want him to be president.

Um, more people wanted him to be President than wanted any other candidate to be President. Both times. He won the popular vote. Twice. You apparently are unaware of the difference between winning the popular vote (which he clearly did making your post dead wrong) and winning a majority vote when there are three major candidates. That's a bit sad really, that I understand your system better than you and I'm a foreigner. You were taught this stuff in school. Guess it didn't stick.

And as for the rest of your post which I had quoted earlier but didn't address because I was in a merciful mood...

(Clinton never won the popular vote and for some reason, Democrats during his presidency didn't want to reform the electoral college..)

Why would they? Why would anyone? Would Perot getting electoral college votes in a 3 way election make ANY difference as to the outcome? Seriously, tell me how electoral college reform would have changed the outcome of either election (1992, 1996). I'm challenging you to show those words you typed had any meaning at all, can you do it?

There are essentially two possibilities upon analyzing your post. You are either woefully ignorant or you assume the rest of us are woefully ignorant and will not catch you posting intentionally misleading and disengenuous posts. I have no idea which of the two we're dealing with here. I kind of hope its the first, because the second would make you willfully dishonest. And that concerns me considering that you are a moderator here.

 

[MachZer0]

Um, more people wanted him to be President than wanted any other candidate to be President.

That's true, but it's also true that most people voted for somebody else meaning that most people didn't want him to be President

 

[Avatar]

That's true, but it's also true that most people voted for somebody else meaning that most people didn't want him to be President

Your point is what? You're referencing endgames response to me not his initial post that I was addressing. He said Clinton did not win the popular vote. He did indeed win the popular vote. You agree with that don't you?

I never said he won the majority vote. It wasn't me making an assertion it was Endgame. The assertion being that Clinton did not win the popular vote. I showed he was wrong, then he tried to change what he said to 'majority vote'.

And you're backing him up? I've read many of your posts, and while we have different philosophical outlooks I know you to be a person of conviction and strong moral character. So I'm guessing you read the last few posts but not the initial ones. Peace.

 

[MachZer0]

Your point is what? You're referencing endgames response to me not his initial post that I was addressing. He said Clinton did not win the popular vote. He did indeed win the popular vote. You agree with that don't you?

And Engame clarified that what he meant by not winning the popular vote was that he never won a majority. Perhaps you missed that

 

[JoshuaW]

And Engame clarified that what he meant by not winning the popular vote was that he never won a majority. Perhaps you missed that

Clinton won a majority of the electoral votes in both elections, in each case more than Bush.

 

[MachZer0]

Clinton won a majority of the electoral votes in both elections, in each case more than Bush.

That's true,just as it is true that he never won a majority of the popular vote

 

[Avatar]

And Engame clarified that what he meant by not winning the popular vote was that he never won a majority. Perhaps you missed that

I didn't miss anything. Endgame can not change the definition of what it means to win the popular vote. Endgame was wrong and when I pointed that out he attempted to redefine what winning the popular vote means. And since you're backing him up, you're wrong too.

 

[MachZer0]

I didn't miss anything. Endgame can not change the definition of what it means to win the popular vote. Endgame was wrong and when I pointed that out he attempted to redefine what winning the popular vote means. And since you're backing him up, you're wrong too.

He merely clarified what he meant. So what we know is that Clinton never won a majority of the popular vote, but he did win a majority of the electoral vote which means that most Americans who voted wanted someone other than Clinton to be president.