Hillary does not stand a chance

[MrSpikey]

So if the earth swallows them up you want people to try to rescue them with only their bare hands?

No.

The shovels part was a reference to a recurring theme on a couple of other threads.

Let me state, for the record, that I have no problem with shovels being used to rescue people who fall prey to landslides.

(For the time being, anyway...)

What if no one cares enough about them to try to dig them out?

Maybe it's worth trying to form some kind of group who could be constantly prepared for such situations, and could come to their aid? This would obviously preclude them from doing other things, but, I dunno, if you got everyone at risk of landslides to contribute a little bit of money each, then you might be able to pay them enough to that they are constantly available?

Yeah, I know - it'll never catch on...

 

[SpunkyDoodle]

In "The Huffington Post"


Why Hillary Lost: A Premature Obit
The blame game has already begun. Here’s where Democrats will point the finger if she loses.
09/19/2016 06:05 am ET

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/why-hillary-clinton-lost_us_57dc4bece4b04a1497b491b6

 

[Ronald]

I was watching a leading pro hillary show and they made this statement: You can not have those kind of values and expect to win this election. What values? The values that Hillary and her people were judging people and claiming that they had. For example Hillary is accusing half the Trump people of being deplorables: "racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic, you name it." At the time she was talking to a LGBT audience. Of course that is what they want to hear because they accuse others of being "racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic, you name it." When they are the ones that are guilty of what they accuse others of. Look at Black lives matter. Do you think we need to know that Black lives matter? NO they need to know that Black lives matter and they need to start to live that way. The 500 Black people in Chicago that were killed by Black people shows us that they do not think that Black lives matter. I do not know who Satan is using to load up the inner city with drugs and gun but it is a prescription for disaster. I hope that Trump is able to do something to straighten out the inner city and the education problem. I know that Hillary and Obama failed to get the job done. The problem continues to get worse under their administration. The growth rate continues to be very poor and there is NO excuse why the rate should be under 3%. Maybe Hillary wants money for herself but she clearly does not want prosperity for this country the way Trump wants to see everyone prosper.

What are you talking about, Hillary has values. She took in over a billion dollars of foreign donors in her "charitable" foundation which Bill and her spend most of on personal travels! She values her quid-pro-quo relationships over there!
She values employment, service done by Americans who have served her on behalf of our nation just like Michelle does -- only Michelle has taken it to another level. But if we let Hillary in again, watch out, we'll go bankrupt.

FIRST LADY'S number of personal staff members

Mamie Eisenhower - one
She had to shell out the salary for her personal secretary from her husband's salary
Jackie Kennedy - one, paid by taxpayers
Lady Bird Johnson - one, paid by taxpayers
Pat Nixon - one, paid by taxpayers
Betty Ford - one, paid by taxpayers
Rosaline Carter - one, paid by taxpayers
Barbara Bush - one, by taxpayers
Hillary Clinton - seven, by taxpayers
Laura Bush - one, by taxpayers

Michele Obama - TWENTY-TWO, PAID BY TAXPAYERS - (see breakdown below)

One $192,200 - Sher, Susan (Chief Of Staff)
Two $160,000 - Frye, Jocelyn C. (Director of Policy And Projects For The First Lady)
Three $133,000 - Rogers, Desiree G. (White House Social Secretary for Mrs. Obama)
Four $122,000 - Johnston, Camille Y. (Director of Communications for the First Lady)
Five $120,000 - Winter, Melissa (Deputy Chief Of Staff to the First Lady)
Six $110,000 - Medina , David S. (Deputy Chief Of Staff to the First Lady)
Seven $104,000 - Lilyveld, Catherine M. (Director and Press Secretary to the First Lady)
Eight $95,000 - Starkey, Frances M. (Director of Scheduling and Advance for the First Lady)
Nine $90,000 - Sanders, Trooper (Deputy Director of Policy and Project for the First Lady)
Ten $85,000 - Burnough, Erinn (Deputy Director and Deputy Social Secretary)
Eleven $84,000 - Reinstein, Joseph B. (Deputy Director and Deputy Social Secretary)
Twelve $82,000 - Goodman, Jennifer R. (Deputy Director of Scheduling and Events Coordinator for The First Lady)
Thirteen $80,000 - Fitz, Alan O (Deputy Director of Advance and Trip Director for the First Lady)
Fourteen $77,500 - Lewis, Dana M. (Special Assistant and Personal Aide to the First Lady)
Fifteen $72,500 - Mustaphi, Semonti M. (Associate Director and Deputy Press Secretary To The First Lady)
Sixteen $70,000 - Jarvis, Kristen E. (Special Assistant for Scheduling and Traveling Aide To The First Lady)
Seventeen $65,000 - Lechtenberg, Tyler A. (Associate Director of Correspondence For The First Lady)
Eighteen $63,000 - Tubman, Samantha (Deputy Associate Director, Social Office)
Nineteen $60,000 - Boswell, Joseph J. (Executive Assistant to the Chief Of Staff to the First Lady)
Twenty $56,000 - Armbruster, Sally M. (Staff Assistant to the Social Secretary)
Twenty-One $55,000 - Bookey, Natalie (Staff Assistant)
Twenty-Two $55,000 - Jackson, Deilia A. (Deputy Associate Director of Correspondence for the First Lady)

Total $2,075,200 in annual salaries - all for someone we did not vote for and apparently have no control over.
Five are Muslim and 13 are African-American.
Michelle has values too! She values her vacations worth more than $50 million as well.

 

[Vylo]

What are you talking about, Hillary has values. She took in over a billion dollars of foreign donors in her "charitable" foundation which Bill and her spend most of on personal travels! She values her quid-pro-quo relationships over there!
She values employment, service done by Americans who have served her on behalf of our nation just like Michelle does -- only Michelle has taken it to another level. But if we let Hillary in again, watch out, we'll go bankrupt.

FIRST LADY'S number of personal staff members

Mamie Eisenhower - one
She had to shell out the salary for her personal secretary from her husband's salary
Jackie Kennedy - one, paid by taxpayers
Lady Bird Johnson - one, paid by taxpayers
Pat Nixon - one, paid by taxpayers
Betty Ford - one, paid by taxpayers
Rosaline Carter - one, paid by taxpayers
Barbara Bush - one, by taxpayers
Hillary Clinton - seven, by taxpayers
Laura Bush - one, by taxpayers

Michele Obama - TWENTY-TWO, PAID BY TAXPAYERS - (see breakdown below)

One $192,200 - Sher, Susan (Chief Of Staff)
Two $160,000 - Frye, Jocelyn C. (Director of Policy And Projects For The First Lady)
Three $133,000 - Rogers, Desiree G. (White House Social Secretary for Mrs. Obama)
Four $122,000 - Johnston, Camille Y. (Director of Communications for the First Lady)
Five $120,000 - Winter, Melissa (Deputy Chief Of Staff to the First Lady)
Six $110,000 - Medina , David S. (Deputy Chief Of Staff to the First Lady)
Seven $104,000 - Lilyveld, Catherine M. (Director and Press Secretary to the First Lady)
Eight $95,000 - Starkey, Frances M. (Director of Scheduling and Advance for the First Lady)
Nine $90,000 - Sanders, Trooper (Deputy Director of Policy and Project for the First Lady)
Ten $85,000 - Burnough, Erinn (Deputy Director and Deputy Social Secretary)
Eleven $84,000 - Reinstein, Joseph B. (Deputy Director and Deputy Social Secretary)
Twelve $82,000 - Goodman, Jennifer R. (Deputy Director of Scheduling and Events Coordinator for The First Lady)
Thirteen $80,000 - Fitz, Alan O (Deputy Director of Advance and Trip Director for the First Lady)
Fourteen $77,500 - Lewis, Dana M. (Special Assistant and Personal Aide to the First Lady)
Fifteen $72,500 - Mustaphi, Semonti M. (Associate Director and Deputy Press Secretary To The First Lady)
Sixteen $70,000 - Jarvis, Kristen E. (Special Assistant for Scheduling and Traveling Aide To The First Lady)
Seventeen $65,000 - Lechtenberg, Tyler A. (Associate Director of Correspondence For The First Lady)
Eighteen $63,000 - Tubman, Samantha (Deputy Associate Director, Social Office)
Nineteen $60,000 - Boswell, Joseph J. (Executive Assistant to the Chief Of Staff to the First Lady)
Twenty $56,000 - Armbruster, Sally M. (Staff Assistant to the Social Secretary)
Twenty-One $55,000 - Bookey, Natalie (Staff Assistant)
Twenty-Two $55,000 - Jackson, Deilia A. (Deputy Associate Director of Correspondence for the First Lady)

Total $2,075,200 in annual salaries - all for someone we did not vote for and apparently have no control over.
Five are Muslim and 13 are African-American.
Michelle has values too! She values her vacations worth more than $50 million as well.

You have to be completely ignorant of white house functions to believe this one:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/firstlady.asp

Michelle doesn't even have the largest staff, let alone an unprecedented number.

 

[Ronald]

You have to be completely ignorant of white house functions to believe this one:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/firstlady.asp

Michelle doesn't even have the largest staff, let alone an unprecedented number.

Well, I don't know what goes on in that place, don't think many of us do -- they are not too transparent.

 

[tulc]

You have to be completely ignorant of white house functions to believe this one:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/firstlady.asp

Michelle doesn't even have the largest staff, let alone an unprecedented number.

It doesn't have to be right if it fits the narrative. people simply want to believe it because truth isn't as important as OBAMA!! even if that Obama isn't even the President.
tulc(will now wait for the "snopes is biased!" claims)

 

[Ronald]

It doesn't have to be right if it fits the narrative. people simply want to believe it because truth isn't as important as OBAMA!! even if that Obama isn't even the President.
tulc(will now wait for the "snopes is biased!" claims)

Yes, you are right - left wing
snopes.com is as corrupt as Hillary, Obama and Michelle.
http://drrichswier.com/2015/08/06/snopes-com-ceo-arrested-on-charges-of-fraud-and-corruption/

 

[Armoured]

If the unthinkable happens and The Donald actually wins, I predict America to wake up with a hangover similar, worse actually, to the day after the Brexit referendum.

Wait... scratch that.... I predict the world to wake up with such a hangover.
The only one who will be rubbing his hands, will be Putin. And perhaps Assad.

I don't know what will happen the day after that. Frankly, I don't want to know. And I'ld prefer not to find out, either.

I dunno, I'm kind of half hoping he wins to watch the justifications and backpedalling among the Usual Suspects when all the Cargo Cult promises and predictions fail to materialise.

 

[Ronald]

"When Bill Clinton was president, he allowed Hillary to assume authority over an attempt to health care reform. Even after threats and intimidation, she couldn't get a vote in a Democrat controlled US Congress. This fiasco cost the American taxpayers about $13 million for studies, promotion, and other efforts.

Then, President Clinton gave Hillary authority over selecting a female attorney general. Her first two selections were Zoe Baird and Kimba Wood - both were forced to withdraw their names from consideration.

Next, she chose Janet Reno - husband Bill described her selection as "my worst mistake."
Some may not remember that Reno made the decision to gas David Koresh and the Branch Davidian religious sect in Waco , Texas resulting in dozens of deaths of women and children.

Husband Bill allowed Hillary to make recommendations for the head of the Civil Rights Commission. Lani Guanier was her selection. When a little probing led to the discovery of Ms. Guanier's radical views, her name had to be withdrawn from consideration.

Apparently a slow learner, husband Bill allowed Hillary to make some more recommendations. She chose former law partners Web Hubbel for the Justice Department, Vince Foster for the White House staff, and William Kennedy for the Treasury Department.

Her selections went well: Hubbel went to prison, Foster (presumably) committed suicide, and Kennedy was forced to resign.

Many younger voters will have no knowledge of "Travelgate." Hillary wanted to award un-fettered travel contracts to Clinton friend Harry Thompson - and the White House Travel Office refused to comply. She managed to have them reported to the FBI and fired. This ruined their reputations, cost them their jobs, and caused a thirty-six month investigation. Only one employee, Billy Dale was charged with a crime, and that of the enormous crime of mixing personal and White House funds. A jury acquitted him of any crime in less than two hours.

Still not convinced of her ineptness, Hillary was allowed to recommend a close Clinton friend, Craig Livingstone, for the position of Director of White House security. When Livingstone was investigated for the improper access of about 900 FBI files of Clinton enemies (Filegate) and the widespread use of drugs by White House staff, suddenly Hillary and the president denied even knowing Livingstone, and of course, denied knowledge of drug use in the White House.
Following this debacle, the FBI closed its White House Liaison Office after more than thirty years of service to seven presidents.

Next, when women started coming forward with allegations of sexual harassment and rape by Bill Clinton, Hillary was put in charge of The "bimbo eruption" and scandal defense. Some of her more notable decisions in the debacle were: She urged her husband not to settle the Paula Jones lawsuit. After the Starr investigation they settled with Ms. Jones. She refused to release the Whitewater documents, which led to the appointment of Ken Starr as Special Prosecutor.
After $80 million dollars of taxpayer money was spent, Starr's investigation led to Monica Lewinsky, which led to Bill lying about and later admitting his affairs. Hillary's devious game plan resulted in Bill losing his license to practice law for 'lying under oath' to a grand Jury and then his subsequent impeachment by the House of Representatives.

Hillary avoided indictment for perjury and obstruction of justice during the Starr investigation by repeating, "I do not recall," "I have no recollection," and "I don't know" a total of 56 times while under oath.

After leaving the White House, Hillary was forced to return an estimated $200,000 in White House furniture, China, and artwork that she had stolen.

What a swell person - ready for another four or eight years of this low-life fool?

Now we are exposed to the un-secure keeping and attempted destruction of beyond Top Secret e-mails while Hillary was US Secretary of State and the "pay to play" schemes of the Clinton Foundation. What "shoe will fall" next?

But to her loyal fans: "What difference does it make?"" unknown author

 

[Vylo]

Well, I don't know what goes on in that place, don't think many of us do -- they are not too transparent.

Apparently transparent enough for us to get rough number of staffers from 60 years ago.

 

[SpunkyDoodle]

Not that all can stand to be told, but there are ways these people handle things that are not easily attributable to "the vast right-wing conspiracy" or just "conspiracy theorists" (sort of self contradictory, ain't it?) This lays out the way they address any real evidence against them, and it is a pattern we have seen used by them a number of times.

Try that next time... See if it works for you. Oh, you may not have multiple government agencies and officials scared to indict you, nor would you have all TV and Print media covering for you. On second thought, don't try it...