Hillary Clinton wants to deprogram MAGA?

[JustOneWay]

We know she didn’t fight her election loss in court. I thought that was rhetorical. It’s talking about her opponent that I am avoiding. I don’t need any excuses and don’t know anything about mass graves

I see! We must not mention he who we must not mention....

This is ALL about Hillary....but if somebody trashes her husband that is alright.

 

[BPPLEE]

I see! We must not mention he who we must not mention....

This is ALL about Hillary....but if somebody trashes her husband that is alright.

I must have missed something. Who mentioned her husband?

 

[Pommer]

I must have missed something. Who mentioned her husband?

Her husband used to be somebody.

 

[A2SG]

She's actually projecting her own needs. She still claims her election that she lost to Trump was "stolen", almost 8 years later.

Well, to be fair, she did get more votes than he did. But that's the electoral college for ya.

Though, in contrast, you might want to note what she hasn't done: lose over 60 legal challenges because of a complete and total lack of evidence, make a ton of social media posts claiming, again without evidence, that she actually won the election, try to coerce a state's election official to "find" enough votes to change the certified election outcome, urge her followers to march on the capitol when the votes were to be certified and "fight like hell" or "you won't have a country any more."

Just for comparison.

-- A2SG, another thing she hasn't done: propose a law to deprogram anyone.....

 

[A2SG]

You’re correct that we should focus on the topic, Hillary Clinton and how she feels that people who disagree with her should be reprogrammed

That isn't what she said.

-- A2SG, check back, her actual words are quoted somewhere....

 

[BPPLEE]

Her husband used to be somebody.

I’m well aware of that. Who brought him up? Or was that just another distraction?

 

[BPPLEE]

That isn't what she said.

-- A2SG, check back, her actual words are quoted somewhere....

MAGA extremists disagree with her don’t they? And what did she say about them?

 

[DaisyDay]

She said half of all Trump supporters were a basket of deplorables so I assume she is talking about 50% of the people who voted for Trump.

Bad assumption. Did you happen to get who exactly were included in that basket and, most importantly, why? Being sexist, racist, homophobic, xenophobic, etc. is not necessary or sufficient to be a cult member. You can be a cult member without having any of those beliefs, and you can have all those beliefs and not be a cult member.

By “cult members” she meant actual cult members. It’s pretty simple.

This is not about what I think about people who disagree with me or what I think the definition of a cult is.

If you don’t know what the definition or, more importantly, what her definition is, then you are talking out of your…hat.

I think we can agree that MAGA extremists disagree with Hillary and she said they should be deprogrammed

This is very disingenuous. Yes, she said that maybe MAGA cult members need deprogramming but you know perfectly well that there’s a huge number of people who disagree with her who are not Magadonians.

What is the point of bad faith arguments?

 

[DaisyDay]

MAGA extremists disagree with her don’t they? And what did she say about them?

No. You know better.

 

[KCfromNC]

You’re correct that we should focus on the topic, Hillary Clinton and how she feels that people who disagree with her should be reprogrammed

Can you quote her saying that?

 

[KCfromNC]

"Because at some point, you know, maybe there needs to be a formal deprogramming of the cult members, but something needs to happen."

Yep, despite the assertions otherwise there's nothing in there about deprogramming people she disagrees with. As expected.

 

[KCfromNC]

She said half of all Trump supporters were a basket of deplorables so I assume she is talking about 50% of the people who voted for Trump.

No need to assume when what she actually said is readily available to anyone interested.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Christian nationalism on the rise in some GOP campaigns

Even the preachers invited to speak at the event seemed exceptionally focused on making their enemies feel the pain. “This is a God nation, this is a Jesus nation, and you will never take my God and my gun out of this nation,” said pastor Mark Burns, a stalwart warm-up act at Trump rallies. “I...

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“Trump really, really increased the visibility, the outreach [of the 'extreme elements of the Christian right']. It’s become a personality cult for many of these people.”

“They’re going to vote for Trump, in Trump’s words, [even] if he shoots somebody in downtown Manhattan, right?” she said of his most ardent supporters. “It doesn’t matter. They’re going to support him. And he knows that.”
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“Let’s be clear. Accountability is God’s job. But it’s not solely God’s job. No, it’s our job too,” [far-right radio personality Stew] Peters said. “When [Fauci] is convicted after a short and fast but thorough trial, he will hang up from a length of thick rope until he is dead. … When [Hunter Biden] is convicted … he will get … death!” [The crowd "roared with laughter"]

Maybe there needs to be some careful effort put in by their friends and loved ones to pull them (and people like them) out of the rabbit hole of Trump's cult of personality.

 

[BPPLEE]

No. You know better.

This thread is not about me. Try to stay on topic

 

[BPPLEE]

Well, to be fair, she did get more votes than he did. But that's the electoral college for ya.

Though, in contrast, you might want to note what she hasn't done: lose over 60 legal challenges because of a complete and total lack of evidence, make a ton of social media posts claiming, again without evidence, that she actually won the election, try to coerce a state's election official to "find" enough votes to change the certified election outcome, urge her followers to march on the capitol when the votes were to be certified and "fight like hell" or "you won't have a country any more."

Just for comparison.

-- A2SG, another thing she hasn't done: propose a law to deprogram anyone.....

Try to stay on topic

 

[BPPLEE]

Christian nationalism on the rise in some GOP campaigns

Even the preachers invited to speak at the event seemed exceptionally focused on making their enemies feel the pain. “This is a God nation, this is a Jesus nation, and you will never take my God and my gun out of this nation,” said pastor Mark Burns, a stalwart warm-up act at Trump rallies. “I...

www.christianforums.com

“Trump really, really increased the visibility, the outreach [of the 'extreme elements of the Christian right']. It’s become a personality cult for many of these people.”

“They’re going to vote for Trump, in Trump’s words, [even] if he shoots somebody in downtown Manhattan, right?” she said of his most ardent supporters. “It doesn’t matter. They’re going to support him. And he knows that.”
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“Let’s be clear. Accountability is God’s job. But it’s not solely God’s job. No, it’s our job too,” [far-right radio personality Stew] Peters said. “When [Fauci] is convicted after a short and fast but thorough trial, he will hang up from a length of thick rope until he is dead. … When [Hunter Biden] is convicted … he will get … death!” [The crowd "roared with laughter"]

Maybe there needs to be some careful effort put in by their friends and loved ones to pull them (and people like them) out of the rabbit hole of Trump's cult of personality.

Try to stay on topic

 

[essentialsaltes]

Try to stay on topic

MAGA cultists are part of the topic. I agree with Hillary that "maybe there needs to be" some efforts taken by friends and loved ones to pull the cultists back from their delusions, and reintroduce them to reality, at least in terms of facts vs. conspiracy theories.

 

[DaisyDay]

This thread is not about me. Try to stay on topic

Deflection.

 

[A2SG]

MAGA extremists disagree with her don’t they?

Yeah, so? She never said a word about anyone else who might disagree with her.

And what did she say about them?

You quoted it yourself earlier. Check back, she said "maybe there needs to be," not they "should be..."

-- A2SG, note the subjunctive tone, rather than the declarative....
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[BPPLEE]

Deflection.

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