High School Player Flagged For Touchdown Nod to God

[Bubbahotep]

I'd like to see him sue the school. This sounds stupid on it's face.

 

[blueapplepaste]

After watching the video, definitely a dumb call by the ref. No question about it in my part. Definitely not excessive, or flaunting his faith, or anything of the sort.

I don't think this is a "OH NOES!!! A Christian is persecuted" but more of a "What a dumb referee". I do understand wanting to keep excessive celebrations in check. But a spiked ball or a shout out to God, isn't excessive.

Sports is emotional, and I think its OK for kids and adult athletes to show a little emotion after a TD or a HR.

The problem with "excessive celebration" rules is that its completely subjective.

 

[blueapplepaste]

I'd like to see him sue the school. This sounds stupid on it's face.

There's no basis for suing the school. It was a bad call by the ref. Nothing more.

 

[keith99]

After watching the video, definitely a dumb call by the ref. No question about it in my part. Definitely not excessive, or flaunting his faith, or anything of the sort.

I don't think this is a "OH NOES!!! A Christian is persecuted" but more of a "What a dumb referee". I do understand wanting to keep excessive celebrations in check. But a spiked ball or a shout out to God, isn't excessive.

Sports is emotional, and I think its OK for kids and adult athletes to show a little emotion after a TD or a HR.

The problem with "excessive celebration" rules is that its completely subjective.

It is also a bit situational. I thought it a bad call, in large part because there was no one close to him. Hard to be 'In your face' to an opponent that is not near you.

BUT up to that point the scores had been all one way on the video, sometimes that results in frustration and then any taunting kind of offence can become more important as it can be the trigger. I'm not saying this was the case here, but it might have been. Or even it may just have been a slaughter and the ref in question decided to be a stickler when things did not matter to make sure there was no need for a judgement call next week when it might. (In college I was Dq'd in the 200 butterfly
during an intrasquad meet, with league officials judging things. The guy who made the call was very up front about it. He was being very very picky, but he thought it better to be picky early than to have a tough call at the championship meet).

 

[yasic]

From the video it looks like it could have been a bad call, but I don't watch football so I would not know.

The announcer for the game was not surprised at the action and simply stated that this penalty is not applied to lower football levels as often, making it seem normal.

Either way I doubt this has anything to do with religious persecution.



Though I do have to add, thanking God for a good play does seem more offensive then doing a dance because a dance is showing off your own skills. Thanking God is saying "God is with me, not with you, so suck it!"

 

[Paulos23]

After looking at the video it does look like a bad call by the Ref.

Still wouldn't call it religious persecution, the Ref may have been looking for any infraction to call on anyone on that team.

 

[Drekkan85]

Again, until we see the actual rule and the commentary on the rule that refs are given we don't know if it WAS a bad call (or if NON-calls by other refs were in fact the bad calls).

If the commentary draws its interpretation from the NFL this was a very GOOD call. The player went to the ground (went to one knee). That's automatic flag+15 yards (or should be if refs are sticking to the rules).

2) They were up like 30 points. Any celebration there I say isn't particularly sporting.

 

[Bubbahotep]

There's no basis for suing the school. It was a bad call by the ref. Nothing more.

Well, unless they can bury this moron up to his neck, and use his head to practice field goals, I say he sues the school for this guy's job.

 

[Marek]

Well, unless they can bury this moron up to his neck, and use his head to practice field goals, I say he sues the school for this guy's job.

On what basis?

 

[DaisyDay]

A spectacle? Stopping running, dropping to one knee, and pointing to the sky is a spectacle?


Again, Show boating? Dropping to one knee, and pointing is showboating?


Third time: Dropping to one knee, and pointing to the sky...is excessive celebration?

"Ha haw! God loves me not you".

 

[trunks2k]

Had the game been close, I would say it's a def. a bad call, but not ridiculous. But since the game was a blow-out I'd put it as a borderline call. To me, it does seem like a very un-sportsman like thing to do when you are winning by that much.

 

[Belk]

Well, unless they can bury this moron up to his neck, and use his head to practice field goals, I say he sues the school for this guy's job.

Yes, those are both entirely proportional responses to the supposed offense. You eat Wheaties with added flavoring for breakfast this morning?

 

[Bubbahotep]

On what basis?

Utter stupidity. I don't even care if this adopted from the NFL, is a stupid rule, and I'd expect a ref to to be smart enough to use a little discretion, instead of being just another rule nazi.

 

[DaisyDay]

Utter stupidity. I don't even care if this adopted from the NFL, is a stupid rule, and I'd expect a ref to to be smart enough to use a little discretion, instead of being just another rule nazi.

Rules are for other people. When I was in high school, winning athletes were exempt from rules.

 

[Drekkan85]

Well, unless they can bury this moron up to his neck, and use his head to practice field goals, I say he sues the school for this guy's job.

Ahh the American way - litigate!

 

[Billnew]

Rules are for other people. When I was in high school, winning athletes were exempt from rules.

Ahh the American way - litigate!

the only way to defend ones rights.

After watching the video, definitely a dumb call by the ref. No question about it in my part. Definitely not excessive, or flaunting his faith, or anything of the sort.

I don't think this is a "OH NOES!!! A Christian is persecuted" but more of a "What a dumb referee". I do understand wanting to keep excessive celebrations in check. But a spiked ball or a shout out to God, isn't excessive.

Sports is emotional, and I think its OK for kids and adult athletes to show a little emotion after a TD or a HR.

The problem with "excessive celebration" rules is that its completely subjective.

I did not see the video, I forgot to look when I got home.
When stiffling a quick religous expression that does not affect the game, in a public school game? It becomes a Federal case.

There's no basis for suing the school. It was a bad call by the ref. Nothing more.

Anytime a school interferes with or encourages religion there is a basis for litigation...well actually in this day and age there is basis for suing over anything.
Actually, I would alter my suit to the sports organization that made this rule. Since the schools usually don't make rules for each sport.

"Ha haw! God loves me not you".

na-uh. He loves me more, so there.

jk

 

[blueapplepaste]

Anytime a school interferes with or encourages religion there is a basis for litigation...well actually in this day and age there is basis for suing over anything.
Actually, I would alter my suit to the sports organization that made this rule. Since the schools usually don't make rules for each sport.

Again, its not the rule itself, but the idiot referee who enforced it. And again, I don't think its a "we gotta sue everyone" instance, just clarify the rules, maybe reprimand the ref and move on.

If the referee had a history of calling penalties on kids who signaled to God or something like that and nothing was done, maybe that would be a case. But as it is, I think its premature and silly to talk about suing the school or anyone over this incident.

 

[I <3 Abraham]

Just so you all know, the kid in question has turned out to have better common sense than those "supporting him". He said that the next time he gets a TD, he will do his little prayer on the sideline. Good for him, he realized that with a small personal concession, he could avoid continued conflict over something unimportant.

That is what you do in real life when somebody in power pushes you around a little bit. You make a note of it, learn how you must alter your behavior in that person's presence, and when you get out from under that person's thumb, you no longer have to behave in that way. In reality, that person is eroding their authority when they misuse it.

When you do this, rather than kicking up a stink about every little thing and insisting that everything has to be about "me me me" and that we should all get to have everything just like we want it, then you will get ahead in life.

Don't get me wrong, there are times when a person has to stand up for themselves, but if you are constantly fighting every little thing, you will have zero credibility when you do need to stand up to someone. If you make sure to do your best to comply with what the people in authority ask of you, then you will likely amass allies and your colleagues will know you to be a reasonable person willing to make reasonable concessions. If you are always going on about something, however, you will likely have few allies and everyone will know you to be a troublemaker.

Real life lessons can be learned from this kid's wise decision to just let this go rather make a federal case out of it (so to speak).

 

[tinkle]

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Whenever I see some celebrity icon thank god, I think of all the terrible things that happen in other parts of the world. Makes no sense.

 

[KIYX]

Rules are for other people. When I was in high school, winning athletes were exempt from rules.

When I was in high school winning athletes were the ones who cheated off of me.