Hidden sin!

[pescador]

You only read from the passages i quoted the way that 'you' interpret them. You only can see what 'you' want to see.

Matthew 7:21
21 “Not every one who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.

You have to repent if you sin. You have to acknowledge your sin and repent to God. You cannot sin and believe that as Jesus died on the cross all is ok! Every time we sin we drive the nail in deeper in Jesus's hand and feet.

Jesus died to save sinners. He gave us a way to be forgiven, yes. But, we have to acknowledge our sins, go on bended knee, and tell God we are truly sorry and beg for forgiveness.

I know of no saint that thought like you do.

You think that once saved is always saved but you are wrong my dear friend.

Its one thing believing in Christ. Its another thinking that you are safe and should not worry about the sins you commit, believing that God has forgiven you of any sin you commit without you having a care in the world!

Why did Jesus give us the 'Our Father' Prayer? In that it says:

'Forgive us our Trespasses as we forgive others........'

Why would Jesus give us those words if we don't need to ask for forgiveness?

You need to go back to the drawing board my dear friend and see that one is not free to sin without some 'suffering' of ones own! Repent, seek forgiveness.

God bless you

If that is the doctrine that you want to live by go ahead. It bothers me only a little that you inflict this unnecessary burden on yourself.

When you quote from the gospels you shouldn't take phrases out of context, forgetting to whom they were written and why. Matthew's gospel was written specifically to the Jewish people who obviously weren't Christians (nor was anyone else at that time). Chapter 7 is part of "the sermon on the mount" that was spoken to the disciples only. The single verse that you quoted was part of an admonition that if one isn't doing God's will but is instead acting on their own it means nothing.

Likewise, the "the 'Our Father' Prayer" was in response to the disciples asking Jesus how they should pray. Again, these men were not Christians -- there were none yet -- so Jesus was instructing Jewish men how they should pray to God. -> Their sins were not yet forgiven as Jesus had not yet been crucified and resurrected <-

It grieves me when you say, "Jesus died to save sinners. He gave us a way to be forgiven, yes. But, we have to acknowledge our sins, go on bended knee, and tell God we are truly sorry and beg for forgiveness." I will never acknowledge my sins, go on bended knee, and tell God I am truly sorry and beg for forgiveness as it is contrary to scripture. Have you never read what happened when the prodigal son returned? The son said to himself, "I will set out and go back to my father and say to him: Father, I have sinned against heaven and against you. I am no longer worthy to be called your son; make me like one of your hired servants.’ So he got up and went to his father. But while he was still a long way off, his father saw him and was filled with compassion for him; he ran to his son, threw his arms around him and kissed him." Doesn't that teach you about the practice of begging for forgiveness and the father's attitude??

You believe the doctrine of the Catholic church regarding sin, the need for constant confession and continual repentance, over and over and over and... I don't believe that doctrine; I believe what the Bible clearly says. Sola scriptura.

Again, if this continual cycle of sin-confession-repentance makes you feel better then go ahead and do it. As for me, I rest in God's eternal, unconditional love, his total and perpetual forgiveness and his gift of everlasting peace.

 

[Goatee]

You are correct!

Well, sorry to say that anyone who believes that they can lay everything at the feet of Jesus with no remorse, no heart searching, no begging for forgiveness is definitely reading scripture wrongly.

Jesus 'Did Not' suffer and die so that sinners could have an easy life.

 

[Goatee]

If that is the doctrine that you want to live by go ahead. It bothers me only a little that you inflict this unnecessary burden on yourself.

When you quote from the gospels you shouldn't take phrases out of context, forgetting to whom they were written and why. Matthew's gospel was written specifically to the Jewish people who obviously weren't Christians (nor was anyone else at that time). Chapter 7 is part of "the sermon on the mount" that was spoken to the disciples only. The single verse that you quoted was part of an admonition that if one isn't doing God's will but is instead acting on their own it means nothing.

Likewise, the "the 'Our Father' Prayer" was in response to the disciples asking Jesus how they should pray. Again, these men were not Christians -- there were none yet -- so Jesus was instructing Jewish men how they should pray to God. -> Their sins were not yet forgiven as Jesus had not yet been crucified and resurrected <-

It grieves me when you say, "Jesus died to save sinners. He gave us a way to be forgiven, yes. But, we have to acknowledge our sins, go on bended knee, and tell God we are truly sorry and beg for forgiveness." I will never acknowledge my sins, go on bended knee, and tell God I am truly sorry and beg for forgiveness as it is contrary to scripture. Have you never read what happened when the prodigal son returned? The son said to himself, "I will set out and go back to my father and say to him: Father, I have sinned against heaven and against you. I am no longer worthy to be called your son; make me like one of your hired servants.’ So he got up and went to his father. But while he was still a long way off, his father saw him and was filled with compassion for him; he ran to his son, threw his arms around him and kissed him." Doesn't that teach you about the practice of begging for forgiveness and the father's attitude??

You believe the doctrine of the Catholic church regarding sin, the need for constant confession and continual repentance, over and over and over and... I don't believe that doctrine; I believe what the Bible clearly says. Sola scriptura.

Again, if this continual cycle of sin-confession-repentance makes you feel better then go ahead and do it. As for me, I rest in God's eternal, unconditional love, his total and perpetual forgiveness and his gift of everlasting peace.

Ok, i can see that you are lost in your interpretations.

I hope that one day you will realise that we do need to go on bended knee when we sin and ask God to show us his Divine Mercy. I cannot accept that a Christian is able to sin without a care in the world.

We are all saved at baptism etc but like someone who can fly, once they learn to fly they still have to take control to make sure they stay airborne and are going in the right direction! If they dont, they will more than likely crash!

 

[pescador]

Well, sorry to say that anyone who believes that they can lay everything at the feet of Jesus with no remorse, no heart searching, no begging for forgiveness is definitely reading scripture wrongly.

Jesus 'Did Not' suffer and die so that sinners could have an easy life.

There is no point in continuing this discussion. If you want to needlessly suffer and beg for forgiveness that you already have, be my guest.

I hope that one day you will find the shalom that believers have been given in Christ. He suffered and died so that we would have peace with God.

I live in peace, you live in guilt There is nothing more to be said. I'm done.

 

[Goatee]

There is no point in continuing this discussion. If you want to needlessly suffer and beg for forgiveness that you already have, be my guest.

I hope that one day you will find the shalom that believers have been given in Christ. He suffered and died so that we would have peace with God.

I live in peace, you live in guilt There is nothing more to be said. I'm done.

I live in fear of sinning. I cannot let Jesus suffer for me for my sins without me asking for forgiveness when i do sin.

 

[Goatee]

Matthew 3:2
2 “Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.”

Yes! We need to repent...............

 

[pescador]

Nobody's listening to you anymore.

 

[Goatee]

Nobody's listening to you anymore.

You are! lol

Thought you said you were done?