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Hidden Manna

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Alot of great verses there Sis but it still does not show the connection of the cross as being the government upon the shoulder,or hip,thigh, back, leg, etc. ^_^


But I already told you I dont know though, but I cannot say amen to something else I dont know for sure either, if I cant see it make sense in Christ aright.

I just regard the cross as the wisdom of God. But hey, He could have kicked the cross with his feet too because it doesnt say he carried the cross on his shoulder (specifically) or when he told his disciples to take up the cross that we literall carry it on our shoulders either.

So, its a take it or leave it (for me) until I can see it aright.
 
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But I already told you I dont know though, but I cannot say amen to something else I dont know for sure either, if I cant see it make sense in Christ aright.

I just regard the cross as the wisdom of God. But hey, He could have kicked the cross with his feet too because it doesnt say he carried the cross on his shoulder (specifically) or when he told his disciples to take up the cross that we literall carry it on our shoulders either.

So, its a take it or leave it (for me) until I can see it aright.

That's the point Sis there are no verses that speak about the shoulder and the cross together in that context, neither the cross as being the government upon the shoulder. But you keep going back to it time and time again, which is why I asked.

You'll have to excuse me now while I go and beat my head against a wall.^_^
 
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That's the point Sis there are no verses that speak about the shoulder and the cross together in that context, neither the cross as being the government upon the shoulder. But you keep going back to it time and time again, which is why I asked.

You'll have to excuse me now while I go and beat my head against a wall.^_^

Well I dont laugh at where I am inclined to look, even though I might not see yet, because as I said I dont know. Its just He always shows me things centered on the cross, but I will wait on Him for it.

But Im done, I will not study with you anymore, I'll wait on this as I have waited on the Lord on other things, but I'll let you have at it banging your head against the wall.

I cant say until I know, if I dont know I cannot say. However, I cannot be forced to say (I see) what another is saying if its not clear, I have other questions in my own mind but I cant give myself to this while I am baking all day long, and take on the subject of stones in between.

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Well I dont laugh at where I am inclined to look, even though I might not see yet, because as I said I dont know. Its just He always shows me things centered on the cross, but I will wait on Him for it.

But Im done, I will not study with you anymore, I'll wait on this as I have waited on the Lord on other things, but I'll let you have at it banging your head against the wall.

I cant say until I know, if I dont know I cannot say. However, I cannot be forced to say (I see) what another is saying if its not clear, I have other questions in my own mind but I cant give myself to this while I am baking all day long, and take on the subject of stones in between.

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Sorry Sis, I see now your not in the mood for playful banter. :blush:
 
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Sorry Sis, I see now your not in the mood for playful banter. :blush:

No, I actually appologize, because I am always up for playful banter. But I dont understand it yet, and I can only "consider things" is all and I always appreciate your insight and have been blessed by the same, I just have some questions of my own in respects to them is all, and (in my mind) I run try running them through the cross first, thats sorta my thing, and trying to catch the same spoken of differently (elsewhere). Now I havent shared all of my questions, but we both know they are signified and more then likely shown throughout scripture. One question (for example) the position of the sardius (first row) last row (or forth row) an oynx and then the jasper. The shifting of stones and displacing of stones. I dont find this one easy (for me) and Im not a good, "on the spot" person (especially while multitasking) as you well know. I learn by considering things but rarely conclusive. The best I can say, is wow thats kool (I'll keep it in mind) but for me I like to catch them in a few ways before becoming conclusive.

I was struggling with some of the wordings as well. They are just unclear to me is all.

God bless you brother
 
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Another picture of the hidden manna was born on the shoulders of the levites who stood in the midst of the jordan till all the children of Israel passed over. What they bore even with their head's was a garden enclosed. The two stones have six names, two sons bore of a woman. It is a laboring to bring forth even as there are 24 hours in a day and six days total 144, the measurement of a man, that is a measurment of an angel. The amount of time Israel was in bondage, 400 years times 360 days, 144,000. A laboring to bring forth, a six days thou shalt work. Like the name written on the stone, it is a manna that is hidden excpet to the one who recieves.

Ask ye now, and see whether a man doth travail with child? wherefore do I see every man with his hands on his loins, as a woman in travail, and all faces are turned into paleness?
 
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Another picture of the hidden manna was born on the shoulders of the levites who stood in the midst of the jordan till all the children of Israel passed over. What they bore even with their head's was a garden enclosed. The two stones have six names, two sons bore of a woman. It is a laboring to bring forth even as there are 24 hours in a day and six days total 144, the measurement of a man, that is a measurment of an angel. The amount of time Israel was in bondage, 400 years times 360 days, 144,000. A laboring to bring forth, a six days thou shalt work. Like the name written on the stone, it is a manna that is hidden excpet to the one who recieves.

Ask ye now, and see whether a man doth travail with child? wherefore do I see every man with his hands on his loins, as a woman in travail, and all faces are turned into paleness?

Rider on the palehorse is not yet, but soon I believe. Just as the sign shall preceed the man-child being brought forth into the world, which shall also cause the Nations of the earth to mourn.

Matthew 24:30
And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
 
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Here's the mystery of the candlestick...

Exodus 25:31-33

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31 And thou shalt make a candlestick of pure gold: of beaten work shall the candlestick be made: his shaft, and his branches, his bowls, his knops, and his flowers, shall be of the same.
32 And six branches shall come out of the sides of it; three branches of the candlestick out of the one side, and three branches of the candlestick out of the other side:
33 Three bowls made like unto almonds, with a knop and a flower in one branch; and three bowls made like almonds in the other branch, with a knop and a flower: so in the six branches that come out of the candlestick.

Jesus said I Am the vine and you are the branches.:cool:
 
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Here's the mystery of the candlestick...

Exodus 25:31-33

King James Version (KJV)

31 And thou shalt make a candlestick of pure gold: of beaten work shall the candlestick be made: his shaft, and his branches, his bowls, his knops, and his flowers, shall be of the same.
32 And six branches shall come out of the sides of it; three branches of the candlestick out of the one side, and three branches of the candlestick out of the other side:
33 Three bowls made like unto almonds, with a knop and a flower in one branch; and three bowls made like almonds in the other branch, with a knop and a flower: so in the six branches that come out of the candlestick.

Jesus said I Am the vine and you are the branches.:cool:

That opens to me even farther as you laid it out.

Question (may sound odd and appear to be off topic) Have you seen into Abraham's, Isaac's and Jacob's, sarah's, Rachel's Job's Iaiah's etc, etc, Adam and Eve moment? ie. Sarah laughed ... and the path it created.
 
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That opens to me even farther as you laid it out.

Question (may sound odd and appear to be off topic) Have you seen into Abraham's, Isaac's and Jacob's, sarah's, Rachel's Job's Iaiah's etc, etc, Adam and Eve moment? ie. Sarah laughed ... and the path it created.

Do you mean like rebellous moment?:confused:
 
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When the woman is taken out of the man, she becomes a garden that is not enclosed. We are a a woamn/bride to Christ. We are a garden enclosed a fountain that is sealed. Our life is hid in him. Rebellous ... it can be seen as that or the six days of labor or making brick with straw; Jacob labored seven years for Rachel but when the monring came what he got was Leah (though Leah has her own Adam and Eve moment), whose name means weary. Just like Jacob wrestled with a man, Rachel wrestled with her sister.
 
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