Hidden Manna

[InSpiritInTruth]

In Revelation 2:17 we read…
“He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it.”

You ever wonder what that hidden manna is? Let’s take a few moments and explore the meaning of that hidden manna. Jesus proclaimed that He was that Manna come down from heaven, just as Jesus also proclaimed he was that bread of Life. In John 6:57-58 we read “As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me. This is that bread which came down from heaven: not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead: he that eateth of this bread shall live for ever.”

When we understand that Jesus Christ is the very Word of God made flesh, then we can begin to understand what Jesus meant when he said “my flesh is meat indeed”. It is written in Luke 4:4
“And Jesus answered him, saying, "It is written: `Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.” In this we see that the spiritual bread of Life is the flesh of Christ, which is also the Word of Life; which is also that Manna come down out from God of heaven.

In the days of Moses that manna from heaven was to sustain the life of the body, which also was a similitude of the greater Manna to come in the flesh by way of Jesus. So now that we understand the Word of God is that Manna come down from heaven in Jesus Christ, then what is that hidden Manna?
In Exodus 16:33 we are given our first clue to this mystery. “And Moses said unto Aaron, "Take a pot, and put an omer full of manna therein, and lay it up before the LORD to be kept for your generations." In verse 34 we see this manna was to be kept and laid up before the Testimony of the Lord. And we also see in verse 36 this portion of manna that was to be placed in the vessel was also to be an omer, which is the tenth part of an ephah.

I believe this tenth part is an important clue because in the law it was customary to give the tenth part of the people’s portion to the priesthood, which was also considered the Lord’s portion. This hidden Manna was to be kept in the Most Holy place with the Testimony of the Lord as shown here in Exodus 26:33 “And thou shalt hang up the veil under the clasps, that thou mayest bring in thither within the veil the ark of the Testimony; and the veil shall divide unto you between the holy place and the Most Holy.”

And we know by scripture that the Most Holy place was only reserved for the High Priest, which is a similitude that was shown in Christ, our High Priest King after the order of Melchizedek. This type is also shown here in Hebrews 9:24 “For Christ has not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are copies of the true, but into Heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us.” So now that we see the pattern of the earthly was to be sign of the spiritual in the heavens above we can then begin to grasp the meaning of that mystery which is hid in God.

Paul spoke of this mystery in Ephesians 3:9
“and to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ,”
So you might ask, “what is the fellowship of the mystery hidden in God?” The simple answer is the hidden Manna isnow made manifest to us by way of Christ our Lord dwelling in us.

Anyone who has received this hidden Manna come down from heaven is in fact of the Lord’s priesthood, which Manna also was only lawful for the priesthood to eat. These are those who are given new names in Christ, which only they who are able to receive it will know and understand.
Jesus told his disciples in John 14:20 “At that day ye shall know that I am in My Father, and you in Me, and I in you.”

 

[Fireinfolding]

Awesome post bro

 

[InSpiritInTruth]

Awesome post bro

Thanks Sis, God bless you.

 

[eachallberg]

Whats the white stone about???

 

[Fireinfolding]

Ever look at the word stone in that verse too? Its used three times, twice in the same paragraph as "stone" and elsewhere as "voice"

 

[InSpiritInTruth]

Whats the white stone about???

I believe the white stone is a reflection of those who are in Christ who will be putting on their beautiful garments. Just as white robes are given to the saints,(living stones) which is also the sign of the transformation shown in Christ on the mount. I believe the word white refers to being made clean, but I believe the stone has to do with the two onyx stones upon the shoulders of the High Priest in the law(which is a shadow of the heavenly.)

Exodus 28:9
And thou shalt take two onyx stones, and grave on them the names of the children of Israel:

Here we see these 2 stones were to have the names of the children of Israel engraved on them, just like the wording in Revelation 2:17.

The 2 stones represent the divided house of Israel that shall be made one stone in Christ. Christ is the stone that the original builders rejected, which has now become the chief corner stone. And we shall all be made One House, and One Stone in Him, who is our ROCK.

It is written the government shall be upon his shoulder(singular) which only speaks of the One stone(who is not only the first, but is also the last.)

What is interesting about the onyx stone is that it can be found in many different colors(white being one of those colors). But what is also interesting is that the word onyx comes from the Latin, and is a Greek word meaning fingernail, which also in the English means nail.

What was in the palm of his hand? I bet my friend Fire knows?

 

[Fireinfolding]

I dont know InSpirit, because I cant come in at it through the onyx stones, unless you might mean "I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands".

I think the stones are hard because they were set in rows and he (himself) is likened to two stones

He that sat was to look upon like a jasper and a sardine stone

The jasper (to me) really stands out as "the precious stone" (as he is) and also the first foundation.... The first foundation was jasper... just as no other foundation can be laid which was laid, Jesus Christ). That language is used for the stone laid IN Sion (those that trust the Lord) which is the elect (and precious stone).

Rev 21:10 And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,

Rev 21:11 Having (((the glory of God))): and her light was like unto a stone most precious, (((even like))) a jasper stone, clear as crystal;


But I havent yet studied out the onyx stones, Just see Jesus as the stone (the elect and precious stone) the first foundation (who is to look upon as that stone) but also referred to a the stone laid IN Sion which is a mount as well and also the city of the living God (even as ye are a city). Or as he is a light she is a light (and her light is like unto his) and again of that same stone.

Even here...

Psalm 50:2 Out of Zion, the perfection of beauty, (((God hath shined)))

But then these two...

Ezra 2:63 And the Tirshatha said unto them, that they should not eat of the most holy things, till there stood up a priest with Urim (lights/ revelations) and with Thummim ("perfection" fulness)

These two speak volumes to me too, because you can catch the same wording in various places, walking in the light (walking in love) the revelation of Jesus Christ, the going onto perfection (and charity being the bond of perfection) the fulness of God (which dwelled in Christ) and of his fulness (we have received) the sevenfold spirits of God (sent into the earth) by the Lamb slain, and the seven eyes (on one stone) I see as Jesus Christ.

The two (faith and love) in Christ Jesus (all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge in Him) etc.

How to order it I dont know, just love thinking about these things

 

[InSpiritInTruth]

I dont know InSpirit, because I cant come in at it through the onyx stones, unless you might mean "I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands".

I think the stones are hard because they were set in rows and he (himself) is likened to two stones

He that sat was to look upon like a jasper and a sardine stone

The jasper (to me) really stands out as "the precious stone" (as he is) and also the first foundation.... The first foundation was jasper... just as no other foundation can be laid which was laid, Jesus Christ). That language is used for the stone laid IN Sion (those that trust the Lord) which is the elect (and precious stone).

Rev 21:10 And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,

Rev 21:11 Having (((the glory of God))): and her light was like unto a stone most precious, (((even like))) a jasper stone, clear as crystal;


But I havent yet studied out the onyx stones, Just see Jesus as the stone (the elect and precious stone) the first foundation (who is to look upon as that stone) but also referred to a the stone laid IN Sion which is a mount as well and also the city of the living God (even as ye are a city). Or as he is a light she is a light (and her light is like unto his) and again of that same stone.

Even here...

Psalm 50:2 Out of Zion, the perfection of beauty, (((God hath shined)))

But then these two...

Ezra 2:63 And the Tirshatha said unto them, that they should not eat of the most holy things, till there stood up a priest with Urim (lights/ revelations) and with Thummim ("perfection" fulness)

These two speak volumes to me too, because you can catch the same wording in various places, walking in the light (walking in love) the revelation of Jesus Christ, the going onto perfection (and charity being the bond of perfection) the fulness of God (which dwelled in Christ) and of his fulness (we have received) the sevenfold spirits of God (sent into the earth) by the Lamb slain, and the seven eyes (on one stone) I see as Jesus Christ.

The two (faith and love) in Christ Jesus (all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge in Him) etc.

How to order it I dont know, just love thinking about these things

Yes but the 2 onyx stones had the names of the 12 tribes engraved on them and the onyx is also a multicolored stone which is also known as the sardonyx. Which could come from the root sardine(sard-onyx)?

The Two Sardonyx Stones
Two sardonyx stones were fixed in settings of gold on the High Priest's shoulders; one on the right, and one on the left. The names of the tribes of Israel were engraved upon these two stones, according to the instructions of the verse: "And you shall take two sardonyx stones, and engrave upon them the names of the children of Israel; there shall be six names on one stone, and six names on the second stone in the order of their birth." (Ex. 28:9-10)

Just sayin

 

[InSpiritInTruth]

Also those 2 stones upon the shoulders were also connected to the breastplate of judgment which had the 12 stones of the tribes of Israel.

Exodus 28:25
And the other two ends of the two wreathen chains thou shalt fasten in the two ouches, and put them on the shoulderpieces of the ephod before it.

The government shall be upon His shoulder(righteous governor)

The stones upon the shoulders were known as the stones of remembrance.

Where as the stones on the breastplate are stones of judgment(breastplate of judgment).

But all the stones are seen as precious in the eyes of the Lord.

Because He is connected to them all. For He is All in all.

 

[Fireinfolding]

Yes but the 2 onyx stones had the names of the 12 tribes engraved on them and the onyx is also a multicolored stone which is also known as the sardonyx. Which could come from the root sardine(sard-onyx)?

The Two Sardonyx Stones
Two sardonyx stones were fixed in settings of gold on the High Priest's shoulders; one on the right, and one on the left. The names of the tribes of Israel were engraved upon these two stones, according to the instructions of the verse: "And you shall take two sardonyx stones, and engrave upon them the names of the children of Israel; there shall be six names on one stone, and six names on the second stone in the order of their birth." (Ex. 28:9-10)

Just sayin

This is where I still dont know, Jasper and sardine (two stone) however the sardine stone is inclusive of two types (in itself)

For instance...

Rev 4:3 And he that sat was to look upon like a jasper and a sardine stone

a sardine

1) a sardius, a precious stone of which there are two types, the former is called a carnelian (because flesh coloured) and the latter a sard


But what I thought would be kool (if it would fit) given he has them graven upon his hands (if just say the two onyx stones contain the names of the twelve) these are set in "ouches" right?

Which I thought, that would be kool if the two stones (the names graven) upon the two palms of his hands) set in "ouches" (of all things) referred to the wounds... sorta like, what are these wounds? These are my two ouches (on my hands) I have thee graven upon... something like that.

I know, might not fit, but given names graven, two palms, ouches (and wounds) even print of nails, I thought, wow... if I could make this work...

See anything in the sardine in relation to the two?

 

[InSpiritInTruth]

This is where I still dont know, Jasper and sardine (two stone) however the sardine stone is inclusive of two types (in itself)

For instance...

Rev 4:3 And he that sat was to look upon like a jasper and a sardine stone

a sardine

1) a sardius, a precious stone of which there are two types,the former is called a carnelian (because flesh coloured) and the latter a sard


But what I thought would be kool (if it would fit) given he has them graven upon his hands (if just say the two onyx stones contain the names of the twelve) these are set in "ouches" right?

Which I thought, that would be kool if the two stones (the names graven) upon the two palms of his hands) set in "ouches" (of all things) referred to the wounds... sorta like, what are these wounds? These are my two ouches (on my hands) I have thee graven upon... something like that.

I know, might not fit, but given names graven, two palms, ouches (and wounds) even print of nails, I thought, wow... if I could make this work...

See anything in the sardine in relation to the two?

Yes dear, that is why I posted the above posts.

Note what you just posted above about the sardius, which there are two types; you said the former was called carnelian( because its flesh colored.)

That which came first is flesh

Withthat....

Onyx comes through Latin (of the same spelling), from the Greek ὄνυξ, meaning "claw" or "fingernail". With its fleshtone color, onyx can be said to resemble a fingernail. The English word "nail" is cognate with the Greek word

Did you get it that time?

 

[Fireinfolding]

Also those 2 stones upon the shoulders were also connected to the breastplate of judgment which had the 12 stones of the tribes of Israel.

Exodus 28:25
And the other two ends of the two wreathen chains thou shalt fasten in the two ouches, and put them on the shoulderpieces of the ephod before it.

The government shall be upon His shoulder(righteous governor)

The stones upon the shoulders were known as the stones of remembrance.

Where as the stones on the breastplate are stones of judgment(breastplate of judgment).

But all the stones are seen as precious in the eyes of the Lord.

Because He is connected to them all. For He is All in all.

But Im still lost on the shoulder though bro...Its like I cant make it work out in my mind, I guess because I see the shoulder as pertaining to the cross, and not the stones, however (at the same time) the same word shoulder means, legs, hips and thighs... thats where its throwing me... Although, the cross (and having thee graven upon the palms (my hands) works in my own mind (or even as set forth) in Christ (as the propriation for "our sins" as he said) or even as two ouches (or wounds) but he adds... not for our sins only, but for the sins (of the whole world).

Yet I do believe they are all precious stones, as lively stones coming to the living stone (precious and elect) in Him.

So I can see how the two stones have the names of the 6 on one ad 6 on the other, but I havent placed them in a really meaningful way yet (so it works out in my mind) because the Urin and the Thummin were for the bearing of the judgment (upon the heart) not the shoulder, and then the having you "in my heart" as well... just havent quite made these work in my brain yet, still waiting on them is all

 

[Fireinfolding]

Yes dear, that is why I posted the above posts.

Note what you just posted above about the sardius, which there are two types; you said the former was called carnelian( because its flesh colored.)

That which came first is flesh

Yes this is what I understand and agree

Withthat....

Onyx comes through Latin (of the same spelling), from the Greek ὄνυξ, meaning "claw" or "fingernail". With its fleshtone color, onyx can be said to resemble a fingernail. The English word "nail" is cognate with the Greek word

Did you get it that time?

Fingernail is throwing me off

If just nails, maybe? or nail ... Im missing it ... Now Im slow bro as you know, takes me awhile lol

 

[InSpiritInTruth]

But Im still lost on the shoulder though bro...Its like I cant make it work out in my mind, I guess because I see the shoulder as pertaining to the cross, and not the stones, however (at the same time) the same word shoulder means, legs, hips and thighs... thats where its throwing me... Although, the cross (and having thee graven upon the palms (my hands) works in my own mind (or even as set forth) in Christ (as the propriation for "our sins" as he said) or even as two ouches (or wounds) but he adds... not for our sins only, but for the sins (of the whole world).

Yet I do believe they are all precious stones, as lively stones coming to the living stone (precious and elect) in Him.

So I can see how the two stones have the names of the 6 on one ad 6 on the other, but I havent placed them in a really meaningful way yet (so it works out in my mind) because the Urin and the Thummin were for the bearing of the judgment (upon the heart) not the shoulder, and then the having you "in my heart" as well... just havent quite made these work in my brain yet, still waiting on them is all

I think your right about making the connection because you have brought up the shoulder and the cross thing before; so please, oh please Sis show me the verses of scripture that makes you think this way?

 

[InSpiritInTruth]

Yes this is what I understand and agree



Fingernail is throwing me off

If just nails, maybe? or nail ... Im missing it ... Now Im slow bro as you know, takes me awhile lol

Yes, but did you make the connection between the sardius (flesh colored) and the onyx?= Sardonyx.

 

[Fireinfolding]

I think your right about making the connection because you have brought up the shoulder and the cross thing before; so please, oh please Sis show me the verses of scripture that makes you think this way?

I dont know though, the words of shoulder (in some places) in the OT means legs hips and thighs, and we know....upon his thigh (likewise) is written King of Kings Lord of Lords

Rev 19:16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.

Yet elsewhere shoulder just means shoulder,

1) shoulder, back
a) shoulder, shoulder-blade
b) back (in general)

For example here...

Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Just how things are shown...

Mat 15:32 Let Christ the King of Israel descend now from the cross

Gal 6:14 But God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world.

Isaiah 22:22 I will place on his shoulder the key to the house of David; what he opens no one can shut, and what he shuts no one can open.

Zech 13:1 In that day there shall be a fountain opened to the house of David and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem for sin and for uncleanness.

Isaiah 55:3 Incline your ear, and come unto me: hear, and your soul shall live; and I will make an everlasting covenant with you, even the sure mercies of David.

Rev 3:7 These things saith he that is holy, he that is true, he that hath the key of David, he that openeth, and no man shutteth; and shutteth, and no man openeth;

Acts 13:34 And as concerning that he raised him up from the dead, now no more to return to corruption, he said on this wise, I will give you the sure mercies of David.

Isaiah 9:7 Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.

John 3:30 He must increase, but I must decrease.

Romans 5:20 Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound

Heb 7:22 By so much was Jesus made a surety of a better testament

Isaiah 22:23 And I will fasten him as a nail in a sure place; and he shall be for a glorious throne to his father's house.

Likewise...

Ecc 12:11 The words of the wise are as goads, and as nails fastened by the masters of assemblies, which are given from one shepherd.

Luke 6:47 Whosoever cometh to me, and heareth my sayings, and doeth them, I will shew you to whom he is like.

Luke 14:27 And whosoever doth not bear his cross, and come after me, cannot be my disciple.

Or for example...Shoulder in one one is as hips, legs and thighs (upon his is written King of Kings, Lord of Lords) though the government pertains to the shoulder (as in back) there... and even His rule (or by his word) also by which we live (in that sense) thats why Im seeing it as the cross. Then you have the two (the breast and the shoulder) and because I cannot get yet all the stones, save only as I know they pertain to the living stone Jesus Christ, I cant say with a surety, its still too unclear because I need to work out the details, and I havent worked them out.

I can only guess, and say, welp, "sounds good" but beyond that I am not convinced of anything until I look closer.

I could say, "amen", but in truth my understanding is yet unfruitful, too many questions, the rearrengment of stones and missing stones, and the wording around them etc, just lots for me to consider (and rearrange in my mind.

However, I do have a habit of trying to make sense of things within the cross, so I am partial to the cross of Jesus Christ (in that way).

Now I need to make a cheesesteak, so I'll be back in a bit

 

[Fireinfolding]

Yes, but did you make the connection between the sardius (flesh colored) and the onyx?= Sardonyx.

Yeah "sorta" but I get thrown by not exact words, and you were showing two onyxs though right? But why does it call the two in the one Sardine that? Makes things too confusing for me and I can only guess then.

know what I mean jelly bean? lol

 

[Fireinfolding]

Im done, that was good by the way

 

[InSpiritInTruth]

I dont know though, the words of shoulder (in some places) in the OT means legs hips and thighs, and we know....upon his thigh (likewise) is written King of Kings Lord of Lords

Rev 19:16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.

Yet elsewhere shoulder just means shoulder,

1) shoulder, back
a) shoulder, shoulder-blade
b) back (in general)

For example here...

Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Just how things are shown...

Mat 15:32 Let Christ the King of Israel descend now from the cross

Gal 6:14 But God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world.

Isaiah 22:22 I will place on his shoulder the key to the house of David; what he opens no one can shut, and what he shuts no one can open.

Zech 13:1 In that day there shall be a fountain opened to the house of David and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem for sin and for uncleanness.

Isaiah 55:3 Incline your ear, and come unto me: hear, and your soul shall live; and I will make an everlasting covenant with you, even the sure mercies of David.

Rev 3:7 These things saith he that is holy, he that is true, he that hath the key of David, he that openeth, and no man shutteth; and shutteth, and no man openeth;

Acts 13:34 And as concerning that he raised him up from the dead, now no more to return to corruption, he said on this wise, I will give you the sure mercies of David.

Isaiah 9:7 Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.

John 3:30 He must increase, but I must decrease.

Romans 5:20 Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound

Heb 7:22 By so much was Jesus made a surety of a better testament

Isaiah 22:23 And I will fasten him as a nail in a sure place; and he shall be for a glorious throne to his father's house.

Likewise...

Ecc 12:11 The words of the wise are as goads, and as nails fastened by the masters of assemblies, which are given from one shepherd.

Luke 6:47 Whosoever cometh to me, and heareth my sayings, and doeth them, I will shew you to whom he is like.

Luke 14:27 And whosoever doth not bear his cross, and come after me, cannot be my disciple.

Or for example...Shoulder in one one is as hips, legs and thighs (upon his is written King of Kings, Lord of Lords) though the government pertains to the shoulder (as in back) there... and even His rule (or by his word) also by which we live (in that sense) thats why Im seeing it as the cross. Then you have the two (the breast and the shoulder) and because I cannot get yet all the stones, save only as I know they pertain to the living stone Jesus Christ, I cant say with a surety, its still too unclear because I need to work out the details, and I havent worked them out.

I can only guess, and say, welp, "sounds good" but beyond that I am not convinced of anything until I look closer.

I could say, "amen", but in truth my understanding is yet unfruitful, too many questions, the rearrengment of stones and missing stones, and the wording around them etc, just lots for me to consider (and rearrange in my mind.

However, I do have a habit of trying to make sense of things within the cross, so I am partial to the cross of Jesus Christ (in that way).

Now I need to make a cheesesteak, so I'll be back in a bit

Alot of great verses there Sis but it still does not show the connection of the cross as being the government upon the shoulder,or hip,thigh, back, leg, etc.

 

[InSpiritInTruth]

Yeah "sorta" but I get thrown by not exact words, and you were showing two onyxs though right? But why does it call the two in the one Sardine that? Makes things too confusing for me and I can only guess then.

know what I mean jelly bean? lol

No