Here's my problem, I believe in evolution, and it brings up doubts especially in the OT...

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Oh ya, I see. You left out Sasquatch, and Yeti, and Big Foot. Do you have actual skeletons, skulls and pictures to base this on or are you going to try to float your boat on just stories.

I have shown actual pictures of museum artifacts of skulls, newspaper articles on the discovery of these bones in mound type graves, pictures of actual large bones and I will even throw in a quote from Abe Lincoln:

But still there is more. It calls up the indefinite past. When Columbus first sought this continent---when Christ suffered on the cross---when Moses led Israel through the Red-Sea---nay, even, when Adam first came from the hand of his Maker---then as now, Niagara was roaring here. The eyes of that species of extinct giants, whose bones fill the mounds of America, have gazed on Niagara, as ours do now..

Now, before you get out your "evolutionists guide responding to any truth that exposes evolution as a farce", He is not talking about Mammoth bones... they were not buried in the mounds. The mounds were grave sites of an intelligent giant cannibalistic race of people, usually with red hair (go figure), six fingers and toes, elongated skulls and double rows of teeth. They terrorized the native tribes, cannibalized them and fought with them in wars.

The evidence is throughout the world and much of it is in the land that is now the USA, Mexico and much of South America.

Sure there are hoaxes out there. Have you forgotten all the hoaxes of the evolution trail? The skeletons (cough,cough) it that theories closet....

However, they are not all hoaxes. There is really something to this story and the archaeological evidence that backs it up.

Just because a society tells a story about something, doesn't make it real! How are you not getting this?
There is ZERO evidence of giants matching your description and Abraham Lincoln WAS talking about mammoths.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

I resisted even replying to your ostrich like view of this but here I go......I know, I know.... it cannot be.... it must be a hoax..... just like the hundreds of other items of proof of this actually being truth. What about our precious theory of evolution. I just won't accept it..... <snipped conspiracy nonsense>
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Wordpress blogs and conspiracy sites are not news! You are being taken in by liars and frauds to support you cognitive biases.
GIANTS. DO NOT. EXIST.

 

[JacksBratt]

Wordpress blogs and conspiracy sites are not news! You are being taken in by liars and frauds to support you cognitive biases.
GIANTS. DO NOT. EXIST.

You can shout, yell, whatever you want..... the truth is always the truth, no matter how many won't believe it.

You have a couple of pieces of bone and call it a skull (Lucy) yet hundreds of full complete skulls....ya,,, they are fake.

It's you who is laughable.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

You can shout, yell, whatever you want..... the truth is always the truth, no matter how many won't believe it.

You have a couple of pieces of bone and call it a skull (Lucy) yet hundreds of full complete skulls....ya,,, they are fake.

It's you who is laughable.

If you compare the size of a cone-head skull to that of a regular human skull, you will see that they are the same size. The cranial proportions are longer, yes, but that does not mean they belong to giants.
If they were, you would see:
Enlarged jawbone, especially if they had the double rows of teeth that you claim giants do.
Enlarged eye-sockets
Everything about the skulls would enlarged to match an enlarged body size.

Show the fact that the skull is larger in every-way compared to a normal human skull, then I might begin to take you seriously.

 

[JacksBratt]

If you compare the size of a cone-head skull to that of a regular human skull, you will see that they are the same size. The cranial proportions are longer, yes, but that does not mean they belong to giants.
If they were, you would see:
Enlarged jawbone, especially if they had the double rows of teeth that you claim giants do.
Enlarged eye-sockets
Everything about the skulls would enlarged to match an enlarged body size.

Show the fact that the skull is larger in every-way compared to a normal human skull, then I might begin to take you seriously.

Really? the same size?
Well, I'm done here. Something that obvious deserves no further attempt to prove.
Yes some are smaller.... Maybe, just maybe they were younger????????? IDK. I'm apparently off my rocker.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Really? the same size?
Well, I'm done here. Something that obvious deserves no further attempt to prove.
Yes some are smaller.... Maybe, just maybe they were younger????????? IDK. I'm apparently off my rocker.

Then show me I'm wrong. Show me a direct comparison of size between a skull with an elongated cranium and a skull of a regular human.
And I don't mean two photos put side by side, I mean an actual SINGLE photo of the two skull side by side.

Because if you don't, I can only assume you're blowing smoke out of your behind.

 

[Loudmouth]

Let's try to do one conversation at a time. I showed a published reference contradicting your supposition and you showed a fellow who changed his mind about the Flood. If you don't trust the published reference, I don't know what to say.

Do a search of "Uniformitarian vs. Catastrophism" (https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20101013062251AAkZcuF is just one of many references).

Catastrophies have always been a part geology. Always. What changed is that they didn't try to explain every geologic feature using catastrophies.

"According to Reijer Hooykaas (1963), Lyell's uniformitarianism is a family of four related propositions, not a single idea:[18]

• Uniformity of law – the laws of nature are constant across time and space.
• Uniformity of methodology – the appropriate hypotheses for explaining the geological past are those with analogy today.
• Uniformity of kind – past and present causes are all of the same kind, have the same energy, and produce the same effects.
• Uniformity of degree – geological circumstances have remained the same over time."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uniformitarianism#18th_century

None of those propositions bans extraterrestrial causes or catastrophies.

Also, Anwers at Yahoo is not exactly a scientific reference.

I have a masters degree in nuclear engineering and have worked for at a government lab for 26 years. I've also presented lectures on evolution vs. creation many times and for many years. This is not something that can be done if you keep shifting the subject. Or if you keep denying you know anything about searching the net. How about NOT presuming automatically that I'm a stupid numbskull and trying to remain civil?

If you can't observe normal rules of debate (including no ad hominem attacks), then I will cease this string, not because your logic is overwhelming, but absent.

Then you need to study up on the history of geology. The Noachian flood was already disproven before Darwin ever set foot on the HMS Beagle.

 

[Loudmouth]

You can shout, yell, whatever you want..... the truth is always the truth, no matter how many won't believe it.

You haven't presented any evidence for giants. You can believe as hard as you want, doesn't make it true.

You have a couple of pieces of bone and call it a skull (Lucy) yet hundreds of full complete skulls....ya,,, they are fake.

It's you who is laughable.

What complete giant skull are you talking about?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

What complete giant skull are you talking about?

The only skull I can think of that he might be referencing are the Paracas and Mayan skulls that show evidence of artificial cranial deformation.

 

[JacksBratt]

The only skull I can think of that he might be referencing are the Paracas and Mayan skulls that show evidence of artificial cranial deformation.

Well, that's a start... keep looking and digging through all these fake skulls..... I read somewhere that in Peru they are a dime a dozen......If I stumble on the source I will post it. Then you can try to discredit the source and continue with your denial of historical facts.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Well, that's a start... keep looking and digging through all these fake skulls..... I read somewhere that in Peru they are a dime a dozen......If I stumble on the source I will post it. Then you can try to discredit the source and continue with your denial of historical facts.

That's because virtually all of the sources you post are complete and utter bunk.

 

[Loudmouth]

Well, that's a start... keep looking and digging through all these fake skulls..... I read somewhere that in Peru they are a dime a dozen......If I stumble on the source I will post it. Then you can try to discredit the source and continue with your denial of historical facts.

Where is that giant skull?

 

[JacksBratt]

Where is that giant skull?

Large Skulls at the Ica Museum in Mexico.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Double post.

 

[JacksBratt]

That's because virtually all of the sources you post are complete and utter bunk.

"Virtually all" would mean that some are not bunk...... Then what?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Large Skulls at the Ica Museum in Mexico.

Show a comparison between these skulls and the skulls of a regular human to match your claim that they are the skulls of giants, or you are just blowing smoke out of your behind.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

"Virtually all" would mean that some are not bunk...... Then what?

Okay then. I'll revise it for you:
"All of the sources you have present are bunk." I was just trying to be nice.

 

[Loudmouth]

Large Skulls at the Ica Museum in Mexico.

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I asked for giant skulls. Where are they?

 

[lesliedellow]

I asked for giant skulls. Where are they?

Didn't I read in one of his links that the giants were up to 25 feet tall? If that is so, the giant skulls ought to be 64 times the volume of a modern human skull.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Didn't I read in one of his links that the giants were up to 25 feet tall? If that is so, the giant skulls ought to be sixteen times the volume of a modern human skull.

He also claimed they had double rows of teeth, so there'd be that to see too.