Here's my problem, I believe in evolution, and it brings up doubts especially in the OT...

[smaneck]

It based on the old religious idea that everything is interconnected ...

Are you criticizing scientists for believing in cause and effect? Because that isn't what the continuity principles is in science. In science it is this:

"Principle of fluid mechanics. Stated simply, what flows into a defined volume in a defined time, minus what flows out of that volume in that time, must accumulate in that volume. If the sign of the accumulation is negative, then the material in that volume is being depleted. The principle is a consequence of the law of conservation of mass. The behaviour of fluids in motion is fully described by this equation, plus a second equation, based on the second of Newton’s laws of motion, and a third equation, based on the conservation of energy."

Not sure what that all means but I can't see that it has anything to do with evolution.

 

[Butterfly99]

Well, if you did a bit of research, you would see that "all flesh had corrupted His way upon the earth". What this means is that, not only was Noah the only righteous man, along with his wife and three sons, they were the only pure human bloodline remaining.

Satan had corrupted the human gene pool in a plan to remove any possibility of any human being purely human and thus not be able to be God's creation in pure blood and DNA, and without a pure bloodline there could be no Jesus as savior.

Noah and his family were the last. Noah was "perfect in his generations". In other words his line was still pure human genes.

This is why God killed every beast and every air breathing being except the pure animals, as He created them, that came on their own to the ark and the only 5 pure humans. Notice, Noah did not have to gather the animals, they just came. Many believe that the animals of Greek mythology are actual animals that were created by genetic manipulation by technologies given to the humans by the fallen angels. This is a lost technology.

In order to save the people and animals He created, as He created them, He had to bring the flood. He saved His creations, out of love, on the first life raft.... the ark.

Later, after the flood, there was more corruption of the human gene pool. Noah's son's had wives that Noah chose for them. These wives were not of pure human DNA. They could have pure human offspring or not pure depending on the chromosomes at conception. Thus we get the Canaanites, the giants of the promised land, Goliath, the giants of Egyptian hieroglyphs, Nimrod etc.

Several times God asks for the complete destruction of a genetic group. This is due to the fact that they were of this impure gene pool. However, the chosen people don't always do as they are asked by God.

Many believe that there are people trying to clone DNA from Nimrod and other "Nephilime" today.

Hey I remember you from that thread about the earth being flat. Is that really what you believe?

 

[JacksBratt]

They use it when they can. As I said, they begin with their premise and then look for whatever evidence they can use to back it up. But a scientists looks at the evidence and decides what explanation can account for it. That is what makes the Scientific Method itself incompatible with Creationism.

Meanwhile, any scientific discovery or archaeological find that contradicts the farce of evolution, is hidden, destroyed, insulted, covered up, explained away, or the presenter of such evidence has his or her credentials questioned.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Meanwhile, any scientific discovery or archaeological find that contradicts the farce of evolution, is hidden, destroyed, insulted, covered up, explained away, or the presenter of such evidence has his or her credentials questioned.

So it's all one big giant conspiracy, isn't it?

 

[Butterfly99]

Meanwhile, any scientific discovery or archaeological find that contradicts the farce of evolution, is hidden, destroyed, insulted, covered up, explained away, or the presenter of such evidence has his or her credentials questioned.

Paranoid much? I mean do you have any idea how many ppl would have to be in a conspiracy that huge?

 

[JacksBratt]

Hey I remember you from that thread about the earth being flat. Is that really what you believe?

Nope, I just think that they have a lot of questions that deserve answers. I have a few questions and facts that would be difficult in a flat earth model. They have a few experiments that anyone can do that put the globe model under the gun....
But, that's another thread.

 

[JacksBratt]

Paranoid much? I mean do you have any idea how many ppl would have to be in a conspiracy that huge?

Have you ever watched the documentary "everything is a rich mans trick"? This kind of conspiracy is not as difficult as they would like you to believe. We don't know the half of what is true and not.

 

[smaneck]

Satan had corrupted the human gene pool in a plan to remove any possibility of any human being purely human and thus not be able to be God's creation in pure blood and DNA, and without a pure bloodline there could be no Jesus as savior.

Where does the Bible say anything about that?

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Noah's son's had wives that Noah chose for them. These wives were not of pure human DNA.

And the Bible says this where?

Several times God asks for the complete destruction of a genetic group. This is due to the fact that they were of this impure gene pool.

Does this statement give anyone else the willies besides me? It sounds very much like eugenics.

However, the chosen people don't always do as they are asked by God.

In other words, no racial mixing?

Many believe that there are people trying to clone DNA from Nimrod and other "Nephilime" today.

I can imagine that anyone who believes the above, might.

There is however, some evidence of human DNA being mixed with other species. For instance Europeans may have as much as 4% Neanderthal DNA whereas Asians have up to 4% Denisovan. If you want pure Homo Sapiens you have to go to Africa. So far no evidence of Nephilim, however.

 

[Butterfly99]

Have you ever watched the documentary "everything is a rich mans trick"? This kind of conspiracy is not as difficult as they would like you to believe. We don't know the half of what is true and not.

Yeah actually it would be incredibly difficult to do. More importantly there's not a reason for that many ppl round the world, for decades on end, to want to be involved in that kinda conspiracy. I don't even know if you're for real or if you're trying to make creationists look like conspiracy nutters. On top of being ignorant.

 

[smaneck]

One of the problems when we try to match up the Bible with science is the bias of scientists.

Whereas Creationists have no bias?

Dr. Arp has a website where he discusses paired stars (stars that circle each other) where one has red-shifted light and the other does not.

You know he's dead, don't you? I was under the impression he had been arguing against the Big Bang theory since 1966. And he certainly practiced astronomy after that.

This implies that red-shifted light means something other than traveling at near-speed of light and hence, the age of the universe has been way overestimated.

I'm willing to bet he didn't suggest it was only 7000 years old.

 

[smaneck]

They have a few experiments that anyone can do that put the globe model under the gun....

Globe model? So I just imagined I went around the globe to Australia and New Zealand?

 

[JacksBratt]

Paranoid much? I mean do you have any idea how many ppl would have to be in a conspiracy that huge?

Just check the facts on the Smithsonian covering up the existence of giant skeletons found in North, South, and Central America.

There are also many photo's of giant bones, skulls and tools on the web which, I know,,,,,,,, every single one is a hoax..... right? Ya every one of them is a professional hoax. So are all the newspaper clippings from the 1800's and early 1900's describing finds in mounds that were grave sites of giant skeletons. Again, every single,,,, one,,,, is a hoax... Every one of them... wow.
So are all the "cone" head type skulls being found in Peru to this day. Hundreds of them. Again,,,,, all are hoax's.. Right?

Interseting that King Tut had a Cone head too..... hmmm.

How can you co ordinate such a conspiracy? Every single giant skull, leg bone, skeleton picture, hieroglyph, tool news paper clipping and indian legend is a creatively woven story or yarn that started in the Bible days....

Sure mac, sure.
You know how you can tell?????? cause Snopes said so, that's why..

Check this and other links

 

[smaneck]

One thing this thread shows me, when you throw out science the world is full of possibilities!

 

[Butterfly99]

Just check the facts on the Smithsonian covering up the existence of giant skeletons found in North, South, and Central America.

There are also many photo's of giant bones, skulls and tools on the web which, I know,,,,,,,, every single one is a hoax..... right? Ya every one of them is a professional hoax. So are all the newspaper clippings from the 1800's and early 1900's describing finds in mounds that were grave sites of giant skeletons. Again, every single,,,, one,,,, is a hoax... Every one of them... wow.
So are all the "cone" head type skulls being found in Peru to this day. Hundreds of them. Again,,,,, all are hoax's.. Right?

Interseting that King Tut had a Cone head too..... hmmm.

How can you co ordinate such a conspiracy? Every single giant skull, leg bone, skeleton picture, hieroglyph, tool news paper clipping and indian legend is a creatively woven story or yarn that started in the Bible days....

Sure mac, sure.
You know how you can tell?????? cause Snopes said so, that's why..

Check this and other links

Well I looked it up cause of what you said. As expected what you wrote is baloney.

http://www.snopes.com/media/notnews/giantcoverup.asp

 

[Butterfly99]

One thing this thread shows me, when you throw out science the world is full of possibilities!

You mean everybody is free to just make up whatever they want?

 

[JacksBratt]

Globe model? So I just imagined I went around the globe to Australia and New Zealand?

Another thread, another group of people..... not this one or these people.

 

[JacksBratt]

Well I looked it up cause of what you said. As expected what you wrote is baloney.

http://www.snopes.com/media/notnews/giantcoverup.asp

Wow, you're unbelievably fast..... all that stuff in what, 8 minutes....? Amazing.


And, of course it's baloney. If it was right, we would have to re write all the history books, admit we were wrong about a million things, and agree that the Bible lines up with all the data on Giants.

Thus = wrongness

 

[smaneck]

You mean everybody is free to just make up whatever they want?

Sure looks like, although the flat earth is biblical. The genetic stuff, though, sounds downright scary, like something from Christian Identity.

 

[JacksBratt]

Yeah actually it would be incredibly difficult to do. More importantly there's not a reason for that many ppl round the world, for decades on end, to want to be involved in that kinda conspiracy. I don't even know if you're for real or if you're trying to make creationists look like conspiracy nutters. On top of being ignorant.

When you get it out of your head that all the mega wealthy are patriotic to their country and realize that they have NO BORDERS and could care less about what country they came from or live in......They are all in it together for the greed and addiction to wealth because it brings power.

Did you know that when the allies stormed the beach at Normandy the vehicles that the Germans were driving around in were made by .......... FORD. Now, tell me Henry's family cared who was fighting who and who was winning. They were selling trucks by the boatload.

 

[smaneck]

And, of course it's baloney. If it was right, we would have to re write all the history books, admit we were wrong about a million things, and agree that the Bible lines up with all the data on Giants.

Thus = wrongness

Yeah, it's all a conspiracy. Let's make some new ones up:

http://www.newsgarden.org/offcenter/center/createconspiracy.htm