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Here is what 666 means in Hebrew

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What happened to that Isaiah verse "do not call conspiracy what these people call conspiracy" the point of the passage is "Focus on me saith the Lord"

And furthermore from 1st John Perfect love casts out all fear .

may Jesus be glorified through you all .
 
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Re- Numberology - i would take instances in the bible over jewish mythologies anyday

besides . you need to look at the hebrew meaning in the OT and the Greek meaning in the NT for the whole picture .

also with any form of prophecy/divining you need to keep in mind that there was a meaning attributed by the original culture and a meaning attributed by God that may have escaped their notice .

and if you take the two ..

then say

Life is bondage .. that is very Romans ;)
 
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What happened to that Isaiah verse "do not call conspiracy what these people call conspiracy" the point of the passage is "Focus on me saith the Lord"

And furthermore from 1st John Perfect love casts out all fear .

may Jesus be glorified through you all .

I'm with you. We are in trouble when we start to run our life by the latest conspiracy theory.
 
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Thank you for your input. I'm not going to spend much time going around over this because I have an excellent book on bible numerics that is widely used, respected and recognized. It also is in alignment with other books of it's kind.

I wanted to comment on your explanation of the verse Judge 6:1 and the number seven. There is a little more to that.

'At the time the prophet spoke these words the Israelites were in bondage to the Midianites. This is evidence that the number eighteen stands for bondage. The eighteeneth and last time Israel's bondage is referred to was at the time they were in bondage to the Midianites. The eighteeneth time Israel's bondage is referred to, which was in this place, completes the full number of times their Egyptian bondage is mentioned. It came at the time when the Medianites had them in bondage. Since seven stands for spiritual completeness, then the time Israel was in bondage to Midian seven years completed the eighteen times their Egyptian bondage is mentioned. This last reference completed the number (eighteen) that stands for bondage. In addition to the word bondage being used eighteen times concerning Israle's experience in Eygpt, the word bondmen is used four times. Four is the number for the unsaved man. This shows that man in the flesh is in bondage to sin. (Galatians 4:3 and John 8:34-36.)'

from the Biblical Mathematics by Evangeliost Ed F. Vallowe

As you said ... each to their own.

God bless
 
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This was all food for thought really . hope it stirrs the pot and such in a good way .

good to see you again lilmissmontanna .

bless you all .

It's always a joy to see you, Michael! God bless
 
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Forgot ... the thread is about the number 666 so I thought I'd add this while I was at it.

six = weakness of man, evils of Satan, and maifestations of sin

example ... Job 1:9

"Then Satan answered the Lord and said, DOTH -- JOB -- SERVE -- GOD -- FOR -- NOUGHT?"

The sixth time the name of Job occurs in the book of Job it was Satan who used his name, slandering Job by asking a question with six words.

I'd like to say that bible numerics should be used to gain a better understanding of what the Word says. It's a tool like any other study guide and should be used for that purpose.
 
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Thank you for your input. I'm not going to spend much time going around over this because I have an excellent book on bible numerics that is widely used, respected and recognized. It also is in alignment with other books of it's kind.

I wanted to comment on your explanation of the verse Judge 6:1 and the number seven. There is a little more to that.

'At the time the prophet spoke these words the Israelites were in bondage to the Midianites. This is evidence that the number eighteen stands for bondage. The eighteeneth and last time Israel's bondage is referred to was at the time they were in bondage to the Midianites. The eighteeneth time Israel's bondage is referred to, which was in this place, completes the full number of times their Egyptian bondage is mentioned. It came at the time when the Medianites had them in bondage. Since seven stands for spiritual completeness, then the time Israel was in bondage to Midian seven years completed the eighteen times their Egyptian bondage is mentioned. This last reference completed the number (eighteen) that stands for bondage. In addition to the word bondage being used eighteen times concerning Israle's experience in Eygpt, the word bondmen is used four times. Four is the number for the unsaved man. This shows that man in the flesh is in bondage to sin. (Galatians 4:3 and John 8:34-36.)'

from the Biblical Mathematics by Evangeliost Ed F. Vallowe

As you said ... each to their own.

God bless

I would put your view in a better category than to each his own. At least yours is from the bible. There are lots of numerology views out there.

From a numerology website.
Numerology, often referred to as the study of numbers or the meaning of numbers has been a long time hobby of mine since I was 19 years old. I am a "numerologist"- a person who studies numerology and the influence that numbers have in our society.

I have 15 years experience of interpreting "number meanings". Numbers are encoded within your full given birth name and birth date......
....The number 18 means Counsel. You are being lead in the right direction by the guidance that you are receiving. Continue to listen to the advice you are receiving and you should prevail.

In Ancient Roman custom the number 18 can symbolise a blood relative.

There are 18 chapters in the Bhagavad Gita, which is contained in the Mahabharata, which has 18 books. The Kurukshetra War which the epic depicts, is between 18 armies (11 on the Kuru side, 7 on the Pandava).

In Chinese tradition, the number 18, normally 十八 (shí bā), can also be read as 幺八 (yāo bā), which sounds like 要发 (yào fā), meaning that one is going to prosper. Thus, building floors numbered "18" are often very expensive in China. The number 18 as in the floor 18 of a building in Northern China is viewed as a floor to be avoided as the 18 level of hell that one can never return from.

Eighteen : 18 - Biblical Numerology Meaning: deals in reference to things that deals with bondage, slavery, captivity and serfdom

I found all of these just doing a google search. I also found a messianic jewish website that agrees with your interpretation.

I am not a numerology expert , nor do I hope to be one. But when it comes to hebrew. The numeric value of the word life is 18. That I know. As for interpreting the meaning of a number in specific bible passages. I admit that there is room for interpretation.
 
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As of 2011 all health care providers are to be set up with EHR technology or equipment to read the inplanted chip to be soon in planted into all Americans. I found this in the new health care plan reform bill passed by Congress 2 or so monthes ago you will find it on page 1073 of the bill.
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TITLE XIII--HEALTH INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY
SEC. 13001. SHORT TITLE; TABLE OF CONTENTS OF TITLE.
(a) Short Title.--This title (and title IV of division B) may be cited as the ``Health Information Technology for Economic and Clinical Health Act'' or the ``HITECH Act''.
(b) Table of Contents of Title.--The table of contents of this title is as follows:

Sec..13001..Short title; table of contents of title.
Subtitle A--Promotion of Health Information Technology
Part 1--Improving Health Care Quality, Safety, and Efficiency
Sec..13101..ONCHIT; standards development and adoption.
``TITLE XXX--HEALTH INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY AND QUALITY ``Sec..3000..Definitions.
``Subtitle A--Promotion of Health Information Technology ``Sec..3001..Office of the National Coordinator for Health Information Technology.``Sec..3002..HIT Policy Committee.``Sec..3003..HIT Standards Committee.``Sec..3004..Process for adoption of endorsed recommendations; adoption of initial set of standards, implementation specifications, and certification criteria.``Sec..3005..Application and use of adopted standards and implementation specifications by Federal agencies.``Sec..3006..Voluntary application and use of adopted standards and implementation specifications by private entities.``Sec..3007..Federal health information technology.``Sec..3008..Transitions.``Sec..3009..Miscellaneous provisions.
Sec..13102..Technical amendment.
Part 2--Application and Use of Adopted Health Information Technology Standards; Reports
Sec..13111..Coordination of Federal activities with adopted standards and implementation specifications.
Sec..13112..Application to private entities.
Sec..13113..Study and reports.
Subtitle B--Testing of Health Information Technology
Sec..13201..National Institute for Standards and Technology testing.
Sec..13202..Research and development programs.
Subtitle C--Grants and Loans Funding
Sec..13301..Grant, loan, and demonstration programs.
``Subtitle B--Incentives for the Use of Health Information Technology ``Sec..3011..Immediate funding to strengthen the health information technology infrastructure.``Sec..3012..Health information technology implementation assistance.``Sec..3013..State grants to promote health information technology.``Sec..3014..Competitive grants to States and Indian tribes for the development of loan programs to facilitate the widespread adoption of certified EHR technology.``Sec..3015..Demonstration program to integrate information technology into clinical education.``Sec..3016..Information technology professionals in health care.``Sec..3017..General grant and loan provisions.``Sec..3018..Authorization for appropriations.
Subtitle D--Privacy
Sec..13400..Definitions.
Part 1--Improved Privacy Provisions and Security Provisions
Sec..13401..Application of security provisions and penalties to business associates of covered entities; annual guidance on security provisions.
Sec..13402..Notification in the case of breach.
Sec..13403..Education on health information privacy.
Sec..13404..Application of privacy provisions and penalties to business associates of covered entities.
Sec..13405..Restrictions on certain disclosures and sales of health information; accounting of certain protected health information disclosures; access to certain information in electronic format.
Sec..13406..Conditions on certain contacts as part of health care operations.
Sec..13407..Temporary breach notification requirement for vendors of personal health records and other non-HIPAA covered entities.
Sec..13408..Business associate contracts required for certain entities.
Sec..13409..Clarification of application of wrongful disclosures criminal penalties.
Sec..13410..Improved enforcement.
Sec..13411..Audits.
Part 2--Relationship to Other Laws; Regulatory References; Effective Date; Reports
Sec..13421..Relationship to other laws.
Sec..13422..Regulatory references.
Sec..13423..Effective date.
Sec..13424..Studies, reports, guidance.
Subtitle A--Promotion of Health Information Technology

PART 1--IMPROVING HEALTH CARE QUALITY, SAFETY, AND EFFICIENCY
SEC. 13101. ONCHIT; STANDARDS DEVELOPMENT AND ADOPTION.
The Public Health Service Act (42 U.S.C. 201 et seq.) is amended by adding at the end the following:
``TITLE XXX--HEALTH INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY AND QUALITY
``SEC. 3000. DEFINITIONS.
``In this title:
``(1) CERTIFIED EHR TECHNOLOGY.--The term `certified EHR technology' means a qualified electronic health record that is certified pursuant to section 3001(c)(5) as meeting standards adopted under section 3004 that are applicable to the type of record involved (as determined by the Secretary, such as an ambulatory electronic health record for office-based physicians or an inpatient hospital electronic health record for hospitals).
``(2) ENTERPRISE INTEGRATION.--The term `enterprise integration' means the electronic linkage of health care providers, health plans, the government, and other interested parties, to enable the electronic exchange and use of health information among all the components in the health care infrastructure in accordance with applicable law, and such term includes related application protocols and other related standards.
``(3) HEALTH CARE PROVIDER.--The term `health care provider' includes a hospital, skilled nursing facility, nursing facility, home health entity or other long term care facility, health care clinic, community mental health center (as defined in section 1913(b)(1)), renal dialysis facility, blood center, ambulatory surgical center described in section 1833(i) of the Social Security Act, emergency medical services provider, Federally qualified health center, group practice, a pharmacist, a pharmacy, a laboratory, a physician (as defined in section 1861(r) of the Social Security Act), a practitioner (as described in section 1842(b)(18)(C) of the Social Security Act), a provider operated by, or under contract with, the Indian Health Service or by an Indian tribe (as defined in the Indian Self-Determination and Education Assistance Act), tribal organization, or urban Indian organization (as defined in section 4 of the Indian Health Care Improvement Act), a rural health clinic, a covered entity under section 340B, an ambulatory surgical center described in section 1833(i) of the Social Security Act, a therapist (as defined in section 1848(k)(3)(B)(iii) of the Social Security Act), and any other category of health care facility, entity, practitioner, or clinician determined appropriate by the Secretary.
``(4) HEALTH INFORMATION.--The term `health information' has the meaning given such term in section 1171(4) of the Social Security Act.
``(5) HEALTH INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY.--The term `health information technology' means hardware, software, integrated technologies or related licenses, intellectual property, upgrades, or packaged solutions sold as services that are designed for or support the use by health care entities or patients for the electronic creation, maintenance, access, or exchange of health information
``(6) HEALTH PLAN.--The term `health plan' has the meaning given such term in section 1171(5) of the Social Security Act.
``(7) HIT POLICY COMMITTEE.--The term `HIT Policy Committee' means such Committee established under section 3002(a).
``(8) HIT STANDARDS COMMITTEE.--The term `HIT Standards Committee' means such Committee established under section 3003(a).
``(9) INDIVIDUALLY IDENTIFIABLE HEALTH INFORMATION.--The term `individually identifiable health information' has the meaning given such term in section 1171(6) of the Social Security Act.
``(10) LABORATORY.--The term `laboratory' has the meaning given such term in section 353(a).
``(11) NATIONAL COORDINATOR.--The term `National Coordinator' means the head of the Office of the National Coordinator for Health Information Technology established under section 3001(a).
``(12) PHARMACIST.--The term `pharmacist' has the meaning given such term in section 804(2) of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act.
``(13) QUALIFIED ELECTRONIC HEALTH RECORD.--The term `qualified electronic health record' means an electronic record of health-related information on an individual that--
``(A) includes patient demographic and clinical health information, such as medical history and problem lists; and
``(B) has the capacity--
``(i) to provide clinical decision support;
``(ii) to support physician order entry;
``(iii) to capture and query information relevant to health care quality; and
``(iv) to exchange electronic health information with, and integrate such information from other sources.
``(14) STATE.--The term `State' means each of the several States, the District of Columbia, Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands, Guam, American Samoa, and the Northern Mariana Islands.
``Subtitle A--Promotion of Health Information Technology
``SEC. 3001. OFFICE OF THE NATIONAL COORDINATOR FOR HEALTH INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY.
``(a) Establishment.--There is established within the Department of Health and Human Services an Office of the National Coordinator [Page: H1338] GPO's PDFfor Health Information Technology (referred to in this section as the `Office'). The Office shall be headed by a National Coordinator who shall be appointed by the Secretary and shall report directly to the Secretary.

``(b) Purpose.--The National Coordinator shall perform the duties under subsection (c) in a manner consistent with the development of a nationwide health information technology infrastructure that allows for the electronic use and exchange of information and that--
``(1) ensures that each patient's health information is secure and protected, in accordance with applicable law;
``(2) improves health care quality, reduces medical errors, reduces health disparities, and advances the delivery of patient-centered medical care;
``(3) reduces health care costs resulting from inefficiency, medical errors, inappropriate care, duplicative care, and incomplete information;
``(4) provides appropriate information to help guide medical decisions at the time and place of care;
``(5) ensures the inclusion of meaningful public input in such development of such infrastructure;
``(6) improves the coordination of care and information among hospitals, laboratories, physician offices, and other entities through an effective infrastructure for the secure and authorized exchange of health care information;
``(7) improves public health activities and facilitates the early identification and rapid response to public health threats and emergencies, including bioterror events and infectious disease outbreaks;
``(8) facilitates health and clinical research and health care quality;
``(9) promotes early detection, prevention, and management of chronic diseases;
``(10) promotes a more effective marketplace, greater competition, greater systems analysis, increased consumer choice, and improved outcomes in health care services; and
``(11) improves efforts to reduce health disparities.
``(c) Duties of the National Coordinator.--
``(1) STANDARDS.--The National Coordinator shall--
``(A) review and determine whether to endorse each standard, implementation specification, and certification criterion for the electronic exchange and use of health information that is recommended by the HIT Standards Committee under section 3003 for purposes of adoption under section 3004;
``(B) make such determinations under subparagraph (A), and report to the Secretary such determinations, not later than 45 days after the date the recommendation is received by the Coordinator; and
``(C) review Federal health information technology investments to ensure that Federal health information technology programs are meeting the objectives of the strategic plan published under paragraph (3).
``(2) HIT POLICY COORDINATION.--
``(A) IN GENERAL.--The National Coordinator shall coordinate health information technology policy and programs of the Department with those of other relevant executive branch agencies with a goal of avoiding duplication of efforts and of helping to ensure that each agency undertakes health information technology activities primarily within the areas of its greatest expertise and technical capability and in a manner towards a coordinated national goal.
``(B) HIT POLICY AND STANDARDS COMMITTEES.--The National Coordinator shall be a leading member in the establishment and operations of the HIT Policy Committee and the HIT Standards Committee and shall serve as a liaison among those two Committees and the Federal Government.
``(3) STRATEGIC PLAN.--
``(A) IN GENERAL.--The National Coordinator shall, in consultation with other appropriate Federal agencies (including the National Institute of Standards and Technology), update the Federal Health IT Strategic Plan (developed as of June 3, 2008) to include specific objectives, milestones, and metrics with respect to the following:
``(i) The electronic exchange and use of health information and the enterprise integration of such information.
``(ii) The utilization of an electronic health record for each person in the United States by 2014.
 
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As of 2011 all health care providers are to be set up with EHR technology or equipment to read the inplanted chip to be soon in planted into all Americans. I found this in the new health care plan reform bill passed by Congress 2 or so monthes ago you will find it on page 1073 of the bill.
Democrats' Secret Health Care Bill Unveiled - Republican.Senate.Gov

So, how do you see this working? I don't see the word "chip" in the language of the law you quoted. What specific language do you think will be cited to make a chip mandatory. Of course, initially everyone will deny the bill calls for a chip... but how will interpretation of circumstance make the chip necessary under the language of the law?
 
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I'm working on your question, The man I received this info from, I asked him to Have a lawyer interprate the bill. I know there is more info on this but parts of the information I'm having trouble re-finding. I thought that the other day. That he should of taken it to be interprated by a law office before showing the world what he found. Which made me think I should of thought of that before posting.
 
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Bob,

I've been thinking about this law you quoted since I posted last. It says that a National Coordinator shall use technology to establish an electronic record of everyone's health by 2014. Then, based on the language in the law, an administrative or executive order could be issued requiring the chip. But whether there is a chip or not, just making it the law to have the health information on every person in an electronic data base is scary enough, as it is a move toward our country becoming a totalitarian state. And once it is all set up, it would be extremely simple to convert it to another data base on a profile in general of every American.

I was also thinking of the 666 number referenced in the thread. I do not agree that writing the number 666 on something does not refer to 666, as it has to be added to 18 -- linguistically 666 can, indeed, represent 666.

In Daniel there is an image depicting Babylon, Persia, Greece, Rome, a latter day ten nation confederation. The overall image itself, I would think, is a Satanic spirit, and the kingdoms are his work. It is interesting that none of the first four kingdoms knew they were a servant of Satan. The same could be true of the world wide web -- which could be indicated by it having a 666 right at the top. The same thing could happen in the United States -- and the move to Marxism is an indication of that. Evil is at work in the country -- but we tend to overlook it. I recall reading the other day, that Washington said he was aware of it, but I can't remember the source.

Things seem to be changing so fast. But I keep living just like I always do... even with the same plans and objectives. Maybe, I should be changing too, in my outlook, but I do not see the Holy Spirit necessarily guiding me that way........yet.
 
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I do not agree that writing the number 666 on something does not refer to 666, as it has to be added to 18 -- linguistically 666 can, indeed, represent 666.

I agree. I don't believe it has to be added to eighteen, either.
 
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