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I was not sure where this question belonged. I belive it went in ask a chaplain, but im not sure if these forums are still being used, as is the case for quite a few forums ive been to.
Somone posed questions to me in a debate, that have shaken my foundation. My problem lies here. If Jesus said, turn the other cheek. To basically show them your other cheek, so they can slap it. To feed them, and give them housing, and have no cross feelings toward them. In the story, where im not sure which person it was, someone came to arrest jesus and the person cut off the romans ear. Jesus said no, he healed the man and allowed himself to be arrested. Barabus who was chosen over jesus, was supposed to be like a revolutionary and said to fight back against the romans. But he was wrong.
The thing that plagues me is this. The person I was debating against said that christians were supposed to allow themselves to be killed. They were doing the right thing and that there was nothing wrong with being killed as long as they were good in their faith and that they followed jesus's way with being killed, instead of fighting back. My question that is hurting me, is why didn't all of the christians in that time, line up in front of the romans and start quoting prayers and confirming thier faith. After all christians were wiped out, the world would be left to the heathens and everyone that believed in the gospel would be in heaven. Instead, the way they fought back, was by telling other people and having children.
Which leads me to today. With all of the bombings and the other terrorists going around with the intent to kill all christians, shouldnt we be turning the other cheek, should we just rebuild the towers. Should we welcome them into our country and put no penalty on the killing of us. The only thing I could counter with, is that we would not be around to witness and allow future generations to hear the gospel. But I felt defeated. The idea of what we are doing in iraq, and afghanistan is completely against what jesus said? I dont understand. plz help.
 

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I can understand how these could be difficult issues to deal with.

Firstly, turning the other cheek is not to invite violence upon ourselves. In that sense, Jesus' command has been completely misunderstood. Being struck in the face, in Jesus time and place, was a gesture which was supposed to "put you in your place". If a slave or servant or anyone socially below the slapper acted out of place, they could be struck to remind them of their position, and to show deference. A second slap was a humiliating act, an act of domination. The slaps were delivered with only a specific hand, the unclean one (forget which it was). If you turned your face towards that persons hand, they would be unable to slap your cheek (striking others in the face was strongly forbidden - blows of status were limited to the sides of the head). Jesus was instructing us to know our place in the world, and act with the proper deference to those above us - but to refuse to allow them to strip of us our dignity or self-respect.

To that end, you can look into the life of Gandhi, and the Satyagraha movement. Their methods of gaining independence, were maximally Christ-like. The person you were debating against has a point - Christians should not take a life to defend their own. If you can defend yourself without taking a life - then do so. Also, there is no reason to believe that Christians should not stop the taking of innocent lives (Just War Theory).

As to your final question - we should inhibit others from taking lives, and if at all possible, resist from taking any ourselves. Iraq is a mess - great good could have been done, but they way things went, it is too late to justify the damage done. The same can be said for Afghanistan, but I have more hope that things can come out for the better their.
 
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