Help!

[HumbleServant94]

Matthew 5 is always a good start (and a personal favorite). John 1 is typically considered a basic start, but maybe too close to the problem at hand. There's also 2 Timothy 3 which is good, 1 John 1 as well. And most anything from Psalms or Proverbs.

I have to run just now, but will be back later tonight or tomorrow with some more thoughts.

Brightest blessings,
-- Druweid

Thanks!

 

[RoseyK]

I would also talk to your pastor about it. Since you have been friends for some time, maybe arrange a meeting with him along with your pastor at your home.

I was involved in a cult when I was much younger. It was only through lot of prayer by other believers that my eyes were opened to the truth and a local Baptist Church helped me to break ties with the cult.

Please be really careful....cults have a way of pulling people in. I will keep you and him in prayer.

 

[HumbleServant94]

I would also talk to your pastor about it. Since you have been friends for some time, maybe arrange a meeting with him along with your pastor at your home.

I was involved in a cult when I was much younger. It was only through lot of prayer by other believers that my eyes were opened to the truth and a local Baptist Church helped me to break ties with the cult.

Please be really careful....cults have a way of pulling people in. I will keep you and him in prayer.

That must have been tough. Thanks for the advice! I know how convincing this cult can be. They tried to convert my family into it. At first, I thought it made sense. It took my Grandma to show me how wrong this cult is. I've tried telling him that, but we always end up fighting. This cult is the worst.

 

[HumbleServant94]

Well, it's official, not only is he demonically influenced, he's turned into the most annoying guy on the planet.

He visited me Saturday, and all he did was make fun of my stuff, my worldview, and my intelligence. That's all he did besides watching anime on his laptop. I'm still amazed how annoying existentialism is. Plus with a kid that's in a cult. I'm starting to run out of patience. It was high for over two years, and now it is at medium. I hope God can answer my prayers 'cause I don't know what I'll do if he ends up unsaved and seperated from God for eternity in Hell.

 

[Bombila]

Well, it's official, not only is he demonically influenced, he's turned into the most annoying guy on the planet.

He visited me Saturday, and all he did was make fun of my stuff, my worldview, and my intelligence. That's all he did besides watching anime on his laptop. I'm still amazed how annoying existentialism is. Plus with a kid that's in a cult. I'm starting to run out of patience. It was high for over two years, and now it is at medium. I hope God can answer my prayers 'cause I don't know what I'll do if he ends up unsaved and seperated from God for eternity in Hell.

I doubt that he's 'demonically influenced', but certainly he is not a very nice guy at the moment, even if he was your friend in the past.

It seems to me that you should try not to let the mean things he says prey on your mind, since you don't deserve to be treated that way.

But I will also suggest that he may come to you and say these things because he is unhappy, and, misery loving company, he is mean to you to try to reassure himself that he is right.

I would also suggest that you not let him visit in your house if he is just going to be unpleasant, and if you do let him, ask him to leave if he starts making fun of you and belittling you, because that is just not right. You can let him know that you care about him without being a doormat.

 

[HumbleServant94]

I doubt that he's 'demonically influenced', but certainly he is not a very nice guy at the moment, even if he was your friend in the past.

It seems to me that you should try not to let the mean things he says prey on your mind, since you don't deserve to be treated that way.

But I will also suggest that he may come to you and say these things because he is unhappy, and, misery loving company, he is mean to you to try to reassure himself that he is right.

I would also suggest that you not let him visit in your house if he is just going to be unpleasant, and if you do let him, ask him to leave if he starts making fun of you and belittling you, because that is just not right. You can let him know that you care about him without being a doormat.

Thanks! But for another piece of evidence of change, the kid used to be forgiving. Now he keeps telling me, if someone punches you, get revenge. That is against my beliefs as a Christian from Christ's teachings. What should I do about that?

 

[MewtwoX]

You mentioned something about Existentialism? Is the person in question an Existentialist?

 

[Bombila]

Thanks! But for another piece of evidence of change, the kid used to be forgiving. Now he keeps telling me, if someone punches you, get revenge. That is against my beliefs as a Christian from Christ's teachings. What should I do about that?

All you can do is let him know you don't agree with him. There is no point in your 'preaching' to him, since that will just annoy him. And also, your point of view is not only a Christian one: most civilized societies, regardless of their beliefs or lack of beliefs, come to the conclusion that 'an eye for an eye' is not a useful philosophy, since it usually leads to escalation of hostilities.

Really, you cannot 'change' this young man's current beliefs. All you can do is be an example of the best of your own beliefs and character. I have to guess that he is likely a teenager, and it is quite common for teens to go through difficult periods that they may later look back on as having been times when they took a wrong direction for a while. A year from now he may have changed as a result of whatever happens, whatever he thinks about, between now and then.

My advice is to limit the effect this young man is having on you, right now. In fact, this might help him, since if he continues to want to visit you he must feel some connection that is important to him. If he sees he may lose that connection because of his behaviour towards you, it might make him think about his relationship with you, and whether he values it or not.

 

[HumbleServant94]

You mentioned something about Existentialism? Is the person in question an Existentialist?

Yes, yes he is.

 

[VoidKommando]

Sounds to me like a case of someone who misinterpreted Anton LaVey's works rather than a follower of some "weirdo" claiming to be Christ incarnated.

 

[MewtwoX]

Weird... A Christian Existentialist, then?

Usually Existentialists are not religious. I'm somewhat partial to Existentialism...

 

[HumbleServant94]

I'm starting to calm down from crying about him. He's in my room right now. He just said maybe Satan is with me and he called me a false prophet. I don't know what to do anymore. I'm so scared. He says to stop praying about him and that my prayers are being unanswered. What should I do?

 

[HumbleServant94]

Guess what. He turned atheist because of his public school. Not to mention the insults got worse.

 

[Morcova]

So one second he's talking about satan and then he's an atheist?

And it's the schools fault?

lol

 

[MewtwoX]

Yeah... I don't think he was really following that Church of God denomination. That place sounds like it has an absolutist, cookie-cutter conception of morality and meaningfulness; in complete contrast to Existentialism.

It sounds like you're dealing with someone who's just trying to upset and annoy you theologically.

He's not worth your time (at least, for now).

 

[LadyDeflora]

Guess what. He turned atheist because of his public school. Not to mention the insults got worse.

atheism can be better than cultism, but they can be more hateful towards believers...

i'm assuming he's probably young if he's still in school, it's a good time to try new things out, spiritually...the insults can be a normal thing that come with school age children, my daughter is subject to them being slightly different than the other children and they definitly have gotten more cruel out of elementry school into a middle school....and high school is even worse.

it seems you're putting too much stock in his faith, dismissing issues he's having on a personal level, sadly there's not much you can do, show him by example, accept that he's going through changes, be there if he needs you and you want to be there for him, but generally it's hopeless trying to change him, when he's obviously going through so many changes himself...and will probably spend a significant amount of time doing so.

be a friend to him in so far as you're not opening yourself up to cruelity but this is an issue he has to resolve for himself, God may try to intervene but i've found He seems to prefer people finding Him through their mistakes, willingly embracing Him having learned what they need out of life versus what they want and deciding what's best to support their needs.

some people have to make their own bed and sleep in it before they realize where they're messing up, otherwise you'll always be their maid.

 

[HumbleServant94]

atheism can be better than cultism, but they can be more hateful towards believers...

i'm assuming he's probably young if he's still in school, it's a good time to try new things out, spiritually...the insults can be a normal thing that come with school age children, my daughter is subject to them being slightly different than the other children and they definitly have gotten more cruel out of elementry school into a middle school....and high school is even worse.

it seems you're putting too much stock in his faith, dismissing issues he's having on a personal level, sadly there's not much you can do, show him by example, accept that he's going through changes, be there if he needs you and you want to be there for him, but generally it's hopeless trying to change him, when he's obviously going through so many changes himself...and will probably spend a significant amount of time doing so.

be a friend to him in so far as you're not opening yourself up to cruelity but this is an issue he has to resolve for himself, God may try to intervene but i've found He seems to prefer people finding Him through their mistakes, willingly embracing Him having learned what they need out of life versus what they want and deciding what's best to support their needs.

some people have to make their own bed and sleep in it before they realize where they're messing up, otherwise you'll always be their maid.

It's not just changes. I'm in school too (high school). He's in middle school. He's completely changed. I don't know him anymore. I wouldn't care this much if his entire personality and character hadn't changed. He doesn't seem to care. He now believes love, faith and hope doesn't exist. He disrespects me, my family, and my friends. It's like someone else put on a disguise to make him look like him, but it's not him anymore. I get scared because I'm afraid he'll go to hell. Even my little 7 year old nephew said that he thinks he (my friend) is going to Hell. Yet despite this I still love him like a brother and pray for him to get saved. To see him like this breaks my heart.

BTW if you don't think it's the school's fault, not only did his behavior get worse after he joined that school, a kid in his school got arrested for smoking weed in the bathroom.

The behavior changes started happening when he got in this cult, but they got worse when he went to public school. I get very scared and cry many times. Hopefully he will get saved and stop calling me a bi-sexual druggie.

 

[MorkandMindy]

Just some random thoughts - I have a lot of experience though not a lot of brain power. What comes out could be the overflow of what is going in. The group at the new school are putting him down, and that's no surprise after all every group has to see itself as 'the best', and he is trying to say that at least he is better than other people, and you are right there at hand, and older(?).

Changing schools means moving from one 'pecking order' into another and he is going to be starting near the bottom. Changing schools is very stressful and not something that should be done other than when everyone else is changing, such as between 6th and 7th grade. It happened to me a few times and was not at all nice.

It could be a self-esteem issue. Self-esteem deviations usually correct themselves before long.

I'll ask sis, her brain is bigger

 

[XChristian]

It's great that you care about others but if this person is consistently abusive to you, you should move on. Seriously, if he cared about you like you cared about him he would not treat you like $h*t. Don't hate him. Don't obsess, just move on. His path may not coincide with yours. It happens. Let him walk his path and walk your own.

 

[HumbleServant94]

Wanna know something? He hacked into this account. He went far enough to hack into two accounts I have on the internet.