Help with Medications

[fireaboss]

Has anyone had a problem getting their meds due to lack of funds? I am off my meds now because I lost my health insurance and I can no longer afford them -- my coctail is over $400. I make too much money to qualify for programs out there. My bills are high -- I have a business loan and car payment I am paying off. I am sinking into a hole of suicidal and homicidal ideations. I am in despair and I am emotionally paralyzed -- I can't seem to "get on it!" Any suggestions?

 

[TruthSetsYouFree]

Has anyone had a problem getting their meds due to lack of funds? I am off my meds now because I lost my health insurance and I can no longer afford them -- my coctail is over $400. I make too much money to qualify for programs out there. My bills are high -- I have a business loan and car payment I am paying off. I am sinking into a hole of suicidal and homicidal ideations. I am in despair and I am emotionally paralyzed -- I can't seem to "get on it!" Any suggestions?

Hey Brother,

Have you ever considered your problems to be rooted in the spiritual realm? I know this may sound odd, because we live in a world of therapists and medications. But I've been through the ropes with what today's world classifies as "mental problems," and I knew they weren't mental, because I am very aware of the spiritual realm, so it drove me into countless hours of research on how to break free from depression and overcome the enemy in my life. It has taught me a lot, and I have come out of things that NO therapist or meds ever could have helped me come out of! I faced irrational feelings, deep fears, deadened emotions, and compulsive thoughts. I felt hopeless and the enemy was trying to convince me that I was on my way to hell. I was raised in a Christian home, so I knew otherwise. It was as if I was arguing with another person who was messing with my thoughts, feelings and emotions! I can now confidently tell you that you can walk in victory in your life too over financial, mental and physical problems! It very well may not even be your fault; you could be suffering from something your ancestors did (handed down)! It's a matter of understanding God's Word on these things, and applying (doing) it. For example, did you know that lying with your sibling's spouse can cause a person to become childless (barren)? (Lev 20:21) I never knew that childless is a curse, but it is! There are curses that can affect finances, mental health (depression, fears, etc.) and physical health (cancer, etc.). A lot of people nowadays feel that the law in the Old Testament isn't valid anymore, but Jesus said that He came not to abolish the law (Matthew 5:17). When the Israelites disobeyed God, it brought fourth a curse, and when God's people disobey Him now, it can do the same thing. What Jesus came to do was to set us free from "the curse of the law." Meaning, if we've messed up, or if our ancestors have messed up and have caused a curse to rest on our life, then we can be freed from that curse, because of what Jesus did for us.

I believe it's God's plan for us to prosper financially too, and I know some people seem to always struggle, no matter how much they earn! Curses on finances are very common, but can be broken! Does it feel like every time you're just starting to make progress, something happens and it puts you back in the hole again? Do you seem to always struggle financially, no matter how much you earn? If so, then it could very well be because of a curse.

I read a book I know you would probably really like, it's called Blessing or Curse: You can choose by Derek Prince.

Another thing you might consider, is generational curses. Curses can be handed down from one generation to another, and what you are facing could very well be due to nothing you did, but things that your ancestors have done! There is a book I would recommend on generational curses, it's called Free at Last by Larry Huch.

If you read these books and would like to read more, send me an email (Click on my username at the top of this post, and choose "Send Email to TruthSetsYouFree") and ask for good suggestions for books on breaking curses. I've read a lot of books on deliverance, freedom in Christ, breaking curses, and spiritual warfare, and would be happy to compile a list for anybody who's eager to read up on it!

In Christ,
Bobby

 

[Isserty_Dawn]

Has anyone had a problem getting their meds due to lack of funds? I am off my meds now because I lost my health insurance and I can no longer afford them -- my coctail is over $400. I make too much money to qualify for programs out there. My bills are high -- I have a business loan and car payment I am paying off. I am sinking into a hole of suicidal and homicidal ideations. I am in despair and I am emotionally paralyzed -- I can't seem to "get on it!" Any suggestions?

I know what you're going through. I have gotten samples from my doctor when I couldn't afford my meds. Also I was wondering if you have applied for programs through the companies themselves? I've had to do that for my stomach medicine. I go through a state funded mental health program. Is there anything like that where you live? I would also suggest getting a good social worker if you can. Mine has done wonders on helping get my meds. I'll be praying for you that everything works out. If you need to talk PM me

 

[fireaboss]

Generational Sins or God’s Mercy?
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There is a teaching prominent in religious circles based mostly on a shamefully ignorant view of a phrase found in Exodus 34:7 and repeated in Numbers 14:18. The phrase goes something like this: "visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children, and upon the children’s children, unto the third and to the fourth generation." The teaching is that some people are the victims of "generational curses" placed on them through no fault of their own, but by the wrong actions of preceding generations. These "curses" then predispose them to commit certain sins (the same ones committed by their predecessors). Hence, an alcoholic today can claim that he’s not responsible for his drunkenness; it’s simply a result of a curse put on him by his alcoholic father.

In reality this ridiculous teaching is nothing more than a pseudo-spiritual application of the world philosophy viewpoint that tries to convince people (against the clear teaching of the Word of God) that things like alcoholism, drug addiction, homosexuality, etc. are not clear behavioral choices; but, instead, are genetically pre-determined diseases. The world has no more evidence to support their view than the guy who teaches generational curses from a single phrase of scripture. The purpose of both views is the same: to allow people to avoid taking personal responsibility for their own choices. However, the Word of God is clear, and He will hold us all individually responsible for the decisions we make and the actions we take.

To fully understand the phrase quoted above, we’ll need to look at Exodus 34:5-9 in some detail. But first the context of this passage must be established. God had just given Moses the ten commandments; while Moses was up on the mountain with God the people were worshipping a golden calf; Moses got mad and smashed the tablets; God told him to hew two more out of stone and meet Him back on the mountain; this brings us to verse 5.

To fully understand what happens in verse 7 (the verse most likely used to promote the misconception of generational sins) take a close look at what happens in verses 5 and 6. In verse 5 the Lord descends in a cloud and stands with Moses on the mountain and proclaims His name. In verse 6 we see what names He proclaims for Himself. They are "The Lord, The Lord God, merciful and gracious, longsuffering, and abundant in goodness and truth."

This brings us to verse 7 where the Lord continues to describe Himself, "Keeping mercy for thousands". "Keeping" is natsar, meaning to guard, maintain or protect out of a sense of responsibility. "Mercy" is checed, meaning kindness or benevolence (coming to the aid of those in need). Checed always emphasizes the idea of covenant relationship. And when checed and natsar are used together it is always to illustrate the principle of covenant responsibility! This is God’s own description of His attitude towards His people - He has obligated Himself to be merciful (see Micah 7:18 which says that God "delights" in being merciful). He continues: "forgiving iniquity (avown - immorality) and transgression (pesha - rebellion) and sin" (chattah - habitual sin, committed over and over again).

Then comes the all-important phrase "and that will by no means clear the guilty". Notice "the guilty" is in italics in the King James Version, indicating that these words are not found in the original text (and indeed should not be). The translators added these supposedly to clarify the meaning. The word "clear" in this sentence is naqah, and means, "to be clear of an obligation or responsibility". By removing "the guilty" from the text, the meaning becomes evident: "God will by no means ever clear or release Himself from His covenant responsibility to maintain His mercy by continuing to forgive immorality, rebellion and habitual sins that are repeated over and over again!" This is one of the many verses in scripture that illustrate the principle regarding God’s mercy. The principle is this: God’s character demands that His mercy always outweigh His justice. In other words, God is always willing to give us what we need, instead of what we deserve. And I’m glad of that, because all we deserve is to die and go to hell.

Verse 7 continues, "visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children, and upon the children’s children, unto the third and to the fourth generation." The word "visiting" is paqad, meaning to visit, to look after, or to care for. Because the words "the guilty" were added to this text, it is assumed that paqad has a negative meaning; but, get this, it is actually intended to be a positive promise. Spiros Zodiates in his Lexicon of Old Testament words says of paqad, "it’s true meaning is an action taken on the part of God which produces a beneficial result for His people." Compare Ruth 1:6; I Samuel 2:21; and Jeremiah 29:10.

As for the phrase "children, and children’s children, unto the third to the fourth generation", this is an idiom or word picture used several times in scripture to illustrate how long a parent’s wrong example will affect the family. Here, God is actually promising to forgive iniquity in each succeeding generation. He knows that every generation is going to have problems with sin and His promise is that His mercy will be available for all generations (Luke 1:50).

To further confirm the fact that God was actually offering His mercy to Israel, look at Moses’ response in verses 8 and 9. In verse 8 he hurried to bow his head down towards the ground and worship the Lord in thanksgiving when he recognized the Lord’s heart of compassion. In verse 9 Moses responds to the Lord’s offer of mercy by saying: "since I have found favor and loving-kindness in Your sight, please Lord, be our God and dwell in the midst of us, even though we are a stubborn people: forgive us of our rebellion and iniquity and allow us to be Your possession forever."

It was established in the Law that children would not be punished for the sins of their father (Deuteronomy 24:16, comp. II Kings 14:6). The idea of generational sin does not come from a scriptural foundation, but from world viewpoint. Colossians 2:8 describes the process by which the world develops wrong ideas with these three terms: philosophy (a wrong idea that has no basis in truth), vain deceit (false reasoning to support the idea) and traditions of men (wide acceptance of the wrong idea and false reasoning to support it). This process has only one purpose: to take away personal responsibility, create bondage to sin and deceive people regarding the nature of God.

Here is an example of how it works: (1) call sin a disease; (2) establish (without reliable proof) that the so-called disease is hereditary; (3) conclude that those found with the so-called disease are not responsible for it; therefore, there is nothing they can do about it; therefore, they will be in bondage to it for the rest of their lives. This false line of reasoning has been applied to drunkenness (alcoholism), fornication (homosexuality), anxiety and guilt (mental illness) and a host of other things.

This same false line of reasoning has been spiritualized and there are those who would twist the scriptures to try to promote the idea of generational sins or curses. "My sin is not really my fault, it is the result of a curse put on me because of my father’s sin, there’s nothing I can do about it, I’m not responsible." But, there’s nothing new under the sun. Israel in Ezekiel’s day had accepted the same world viewpoint, which prompted God to deal with it in Ezekiel 18. When you read it, pay particular attention to verses 1-4, 20-24 and 30-32.

The time will come when we will all stand before a holy and righteous God and we will stand alone. God will not hold anyone else responsible for the decisions we may have made and we will not be responsible for the decisions made by others.

 

[TruthSetsYouFree]

Hi fireaboss,

I don't agree with all you have to say, but I'm not going to argue with you about it either. I could share with you some real life stories and real life experiences that would prove that generational curses are real, but I doubt it would help. I'm sorry if you took the way I wrote my message wrongly and thought I was trying to be hurtful, because I was only trying to point you in a direction that has helped me out tremendously.

Bobby

 

[Laurel Crowned]

Hi K,

I started to just PM you... and for some odd reason decided to post in the thread. I wish I had some kind of solution for you... but the fact that you make too much money could work against you getting meds easily. That does not mean that it is impossible. Have you thought of approaching your church? I know that idea might be the LAST thing you want to do... but it might be worth the effort. I've had trouble before and my church has been able to help me out. The church also tends to be aware of community resources.

You might want to call a Crisis hotline. I used to work for one that helped battered women. We knew every community help agency in the county. They might know of free or inexpensive help for you. Or you might call your former doctor and explain your circumstance. The last thing your ex-doc is going to want to hear is that you are w/o medication and having suicidal thoughts.

Of course I will be praying for you and you know that my PM box is always open to you. It took A LOT of courage to post your feelings here. Few women confess to having suicidal and homicidal feelings. May God see the sincerity of your heart and provide for your need.

Peace be with you,
LC

 

[fireaboss]

Truth: Thanks for your response. I do understand that you were trying to be helpful -- and I appreciate your compassion. However, for me, I have tried all those things. It has been a painful journey having a mental illness and being a professing Christian. If you hang out in here enough -- you will see that there are many who suffer from this. I'm sure that sometimes mental health problems can be spiritual -- but then for some -- it truly is a chemical imbalance. When spiritual remedies don't work -- it causes me more guilt and shame. I am so thankful that you found your answers there and you are on the road to becoming the man God created you to be. Thanks for your help and please forgive me for not accepting your heart of compassion in manner in which it was given. It's my own inner turmoil -- and I often blurt before I think! LOL