Because you follow the law and make the same mistake the Galatians had fallen into. The law is the earthly representation of the heavenly reality of Jesus Christ. That's what it has to do with your post.
Your response here...LoveGodsWord said: ↑ Read what the OP title is. Does it say "Help with the book of Galatians?" or "Help with Gal 4:10-11". Context was provided. (see post # 8 linked).
What? That is not true. If you read post # 8 linked you will see that the immediate context is provided to Galatians 4:10-11 in Galatians 4:8-10. It was you that did not provide context to Galatians 4:10-11 in the link you provided.That sounds very much like an attempt to avoid context, the point of the poster is that limiting the context to just what supports a specific view is not helpful for understanding the intent of the writer of Scripture.
Then explain why you agreed with his post and what you mean by what you said. I asked you what did you mean by following the "Law of the Spirit of Christ"
To clarify, it is necessary to look at more than just the verses you referenced, the concept was good it just did not go far enough to see the main point that Paul was making.Your response here...
What? That is not true. If you read post # 8 linked you will see that the immediate context is provided to Galatians 4:10-11 in Galatians 4:8-10. It was you that did not provide context to Galatians 4:10-11 in the link you provided.
Did you not read the context that was provided in regards to the gentile Christians returning back to where they came from in Galatians 4:8-10? What was your interpretation of what was written in post # 8 linked and what do you think it means or what do you think I was saying in that post?To clarify, it is necessary to look at more than just the verses you referenced, the concept was good it just did not go far enough to see the main point that Paul was making.
Where does it say, 'the ceremonial laws of Moses', in the letter to the Galatians. Don't start playing that game of changing the phrase, 'the law', into the phrase, 'ceremonial law'.What are you talking about? Did you not read the context that was provided in regards to the gentile Christians returning back to where they came from in Galatians 4:8-10? What was your interpretation of what was written in post # 8 linked and what do you think it means or what do you think I was saying in that post?
The immediate context of Galatians 4:10-11 is Galatians 4:8-9, which is to Gentile believers returning to practices that they just came from before they knew God...
[8] Howbeit then, when ye knew not God, ye did service unto them which by nature are no gods.[9] But now, after that ye have known God, or rather are known of God, how turn ye again to the weak and beggarly elements, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage? [10] YE OBSERVE DAYS, AND MONTHS, AND TIMES, AND YEARS. [11] I am afraid of you, lest I have bestowed upon you labour in vain.
See the scripture breakdown in post # 8 linked..
The Galatians were gentile believers so they could not be going back to seek God's forgiveness in sin offerings and participating in the feast days etc through Jewish law as they were not Jews to begin with but unbelieving pagan gentiles that did not practice the teachings of the old testament scriptures. It is also true however that in the wider context of the book of Galatians, Jewish false teachers were trying to get the Galatians to follow the ceremonial laws of Moses as a requirement for salvation which is also not biblical.
Hope this helps.
There are three levels of response to God.
1. Following the Living Word of God.
2. Following the principles of God.
3. Following the Law of God.
The living Word of God is the Spirit of Jesus.
When He says 'come follow me' those who follow Him in obedience fulfil the principles of God and the Law of God.
The principles of God are to Love God and Love your neighbour.
Those who keep these two principles also fulfil the Law of God.
Where does it say, 'the ceremonial laws of Moses', in the letter to the Galatians. Don't start playing that game of changing the phrase, 'the law', into the phrase, 'ceremonial law'. In fact, regarding context, virtually the entire letter of Galatians is concerned with the error of legalism.
OK so lets look at the days, months and seasons...
Lent - Christmas - Sabbath - Easter - Passover - etc...
Did Paul have these in the gun?
Galatians is speaking of Jews who are Christians and Gentiles who are Christians. Some Jews were Judaizers and some Gentiles were listening to them. These are two groups who once were in the Body of Christ but have now either fallen back to Judaism or have taught Gentiles to follow Torah in order to be saved. Paul's letter is the result of this false teaching.But in THIS CASE, they were converted pagans...that is what we are discussing. Do you think Jews and Pagans were the same?
Your comment is a departure from scripture. They were not returning to paganism they were being indoctrinated into the law by Judaizers. It is very clear in Paul's letter what he is referring to. Maybe read the entire letter. Blessings.Formerly, when you did not know God, you were slaves to those who by nature are not gods. But now that you know God, or rather are known by God, how is it that you are turning back to those weak and worthless principles? Do you wish to be enslaved by them all over again? You are observing special days and months and seasons and years!…
You were slaves to those who by nature are NOT gods....they were pagans. Now you know the true God but you are returning to the old pagan ways...
The Logos is Yeshua Himself...that is what John1 says. Loving God and neighbor ARE Torah laws....in Leviticus and Deuteronomy....If you follow mw, you will keep My Commandments...are these somehow different than His Father's?
Your comment is a departure from scripture. They were not returning to paganism they were being indoctrinated into the law by Judaizers. It is very clear in Paul's letter what he is referring to. Maybe read the entire letter. Blessings.
Galatians is speaking of Jews who are Christians and Gentiles who are Christians. Some Jews were Judaizers and some Gentiles were listening to them. These are two groups who once were in the Body of Christ but have now either fallen back to Judaism or have taught Gentiles to follow Torah in order to be saved. Paul's letter is the result of this false teaching.
Yes, Jesus is the Word, but folks endlessly confuse the Word (Person of Jesus) and the word (scripture)
I did say loving your neighbour and loving God fulfils the Law.
I did say that if you follow the living Word of Jesus you would be fulfilling the Law.
You will notice I say fulfill rather than 'keep' the Law because the Spirit follows the 'intent' of the Law.
As Jesus said the Sabbath was made for man - not man for the Sabbath.
OK so we are not far apart then. So HOW do you show you love God and your neighbor?
Ok, this is my last post. I do not agree with your narrative as it diminishes the point of the whole purpose of Paul's letter. Bondage through the law. Thanks for engaging.It is not a departure! I posted EXACTLY what it said. NOWHERE in those verses does it imply they were Jews...
Yes, Jesus is the Word, but folks endlessly confuse the Word (Person of Jesus) and the word (scripture)
I did say loving your neighbour and loving God fulfils the Law.
I did say that if you follow the living Word of Jesus you would be fulfilling the Law.
You will notice I say fulfill rather than 'keep' the Law because the Spirit follows the 'intent' of the Law.
As Jesus said the Sabbath was made for man - not man for the Sabbath.
True yet many are today are preaching false gospels of "only believe" but without doing what God says. The devils also believe according to James but we know they will not be saved *James 2:19Folks who follow Jesus are not Lawless...They follow the Law of the Spirit of Christ.
Ok, this is my last post. I do not agree with your narrative as it diminishes the point of the whole purpose of Paul's letter. Bondage through the law. Thanks for engaging.
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