Help..... Need advice from a true deciple of Jesus!!!!

[zachariahjosephturner]

Hey thanks man I'm sure going to try to do that it's just crazy since early 2009 I was truly on fire for God literally but the enemy can come I don't know where so I don't want to think I have OCD I will I think it's just a demon in my head or somebody has put a curse or something..... I mean I don't want the salted all I just can't stop thinking like every time I even see the word Holy Ghost to hear the F word comes in I'll kinds of ungodly cursing and it's like I can't stop anymore and it feels like I'm doing it on purpose but all I can do is just truly trust God and know because I've gotten to the point in all this that I just don't care anymore as far as the ball to go I just let them be there there's nothing more I can do except trust God

 

[1watchman]

I agree, AGTG! One should get free from religious ideologies, trust the Lord Jesus, and read the Bible daily. Also, as I have said: seeing a physician specialist who can look into physiological causes might be important. I know of some such cases in my work that manifest as demonic, and have actually been from organic causes.

 

[AshleySavedByGrace]

Hey thanks man I'm sure going to try to do that it's just crazy since early 2009 I was truly on fire for God literally but the enemy can come I don't know where so I don't want to think I have OCD I will I think it's just a demon in my head or somebody has put a curse or something..... I mean I don't want the salted all I just can't stop thinking like every time I even see the word Holy Ghost to hear the F word comes in I'll kinds of ungodly cursing and it's like I can't stop anymore and it feels like I'm doing it on purpose but all I can do is just truly trust God and know because I've gotten to the point in all this that I just don't care anymore as far as the ball to go I just let them be there there's nothing more I can do except trust God

Hey I'm going through the exact same thing. God gave me this verse last night.. 1 Peter 5:10. It's just the devil messing with us. Jesus Christ lives in us and that's why we are being attacked. It all started with fear of blasphemy of the hs. I feel like im finally getting over it thanks to Jesus. It's been 11 months of torment. But I feel like I'm getting mentally stronger. Christians get messed with more. Just keep sharing God's Word. Do good to overcome evil. Sing songs..be joyfull in tribulation. It's hard but it's what we have to do. Here are a few verses He has given me right after I pray.
Isaiah 54:17
Ephesians 4:23
Nehemiah 8:10
2 Corinthians 12:9
Jesus forgivess ALL sins. Blasphemy of the hs is not just a one time act..it's a persistent and final rejection. They never wanted to accept him and ask for forgiveness..they were prideful and wanted the glory. So they said what they said, I don't like repeating what they said, bc it's bad and I don't like reminding my brain, they said what they said bc they would never accept who He was and they didn't give a hoot. I prayed and God gave me the example of Pharaoh. No matter what signs he was given he persistently wouldn't believe. My Husband called me from work and told me that God told him to tell me the scripture about Pharaoh hardening his heart RIGHT after I prayed, so it was obviously God answering my prayers. .. And He heard God tell me i can't commit that sin bc I already believe. Blasphemy of the hs is a final rejection. Just ask Jesus to forgive you for ANYTHING you've said or thought. He forgives ALL sins.. It doesn't say "unless you've committed blasphemy of the hs". He died for ALL sins. Hope this helped. I saw your post a while back and then last night felt like I was supposed to share this with you but ended up not doing it..I feel bad now bc I see that your last log in was at 2am. I figure you are up worrying..been there done that almost every night for 11 months! God Bless. You are a child of God. You will be ok. John 10:28-30.

 

[insurchoftruth]

Spiritual Warfare;

http://www.christianwarfare.com/html/biblical-spiritual-warfare.html

 

[Razare]

Hey thanks man I'm sure going to try to do that it's just crazy since early 2009 I was truly on fire for God literally but the enemy can come I don't know where so I don't want to think I have OCD I will I think it's just a demon in my head or somebody has put a curse or something..... I mean I don't want the salted all I just can't stop thinking like every time I even see the word Holy Ghost to hear the F word comes in I'll kinds of ungodly cursing and it's like I can't stop anymore and it feels like I'm doing it on purpose but all I can do is just truly trust God and know because I've gotten to the point in all this that I just don't care anymore as far as the ball to go I just let them be there there's nothing more I can do except trust God

It's just the devil. The devil tries to send thoughts into our mind. It's not demon possession and it's not a curse either.

What it means is you're a real born again Christian saved by the blood of Jesus and his resurrection. This sort of thing wouldn't happen if you weren't saved by Christ.

What you do is read the Bible every day. A chapter or epistle. That will fight those thoughts that come at you. Our faith which fights the devil off, that faith grows by reading and hearing the word.

So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. - Romans 10:17

Then also, I would suggest knowing that you are under grace and free of condemnation. I would suggest listening to Andrew Wommack or Joseph Prince about believing and renewing our minds.

Then when those thoughts come, you quote scripture to them. Maybe Romans 8 opening... or something like that. You just quote the verses. This is what Jesus did to defeat satan when he was tempted. If you do that and stick to it, the devil will leave and what is happening will stop. It's not a curse because a Christian is free from all curses by faith.

 

[AGTG]

What you have described sounds like you've come under some ministries and leaders that use witchcraft to control and harass those under them.

My suggestion is to cut all ties with them, throw out their books, CDs, DVDs, unsubscribe from their mailing lists, unlike their facebook feeds, etc, etc, etc.

Then, fast and pray to get your head clear from their influence. Steep yourself in the scriptures. God will give you clarity and direction, the Holy Spirit will set you free. You may need to confess and repent of some things related to the exaltation of man or idolatry as ministries that abuse their authority often place themselves in a position as God in your life, and those who submit are essentially agreeing with them in this wicked thing.

Then, be careful what ministries you submit yourself to.

Right now, there is a massive deception taking place through a network of very wicked ministries born out of the false revivals of the 1990's (ihop, bethel, morningstar, fire school of ministry, etc, etc...)

Since sharing this with you, I've made a website dedicated to exposing the witchcraft and spiritual abuse rampant in these New Apostolic Reformation ministries such as Bethel Ihop Morningstar and Fire School of Ministry among others. The teachings and videos help explain alot about what's going on. Hypocritical ministry leaders that are under deception have been abusing the flock mercilessly just like the Pharisees did when Jesus first came. You can check it out here:

www.becarefulhowyouhear.com

 

[AshleySavedByGrace]

It's just the devil. The devil tries to send thoughts into our mind. It's not demon possession and it's not a curse either.

What it means is you're a real born again Christian saved by the blood of Jesus and his resurrection. This sort of thing wouldn't happen if you weren't saved by Christ.

What you do is read the Bible every day. A chapter or epistle. That will fight those thoughts that come at you. Our faith which fights the devil off, that faith grows by reading and hearing the word.

So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. - Romans 10:17

Then also, I would suggest knowing that you are under grace and free of condemnation. I would suggest listening to Andrew Wommack or Joseph Prince about believing and renewing our minds.

Then when those thoughts come, you quote scripture to them. Maybe Romans 8 opening... or something like that. You just quote the verses. This is what Jesus did to defeat satan when he was tempted. If you do that and stick to it, the devil will leave and what is happening will stop. It's not a curse because a Christian is free from all curses by faith.

I agree it's just the devil/demons messing with your mind. God has revealed this to me and my husband again a few days ago. He let me know that Jesus is carrying me through this..My husband was driving home from work and prayed for me, and he heard God tell him to pick me up out of bed when he got home, and told my husband that Jesus is carrying me. Then my husband asked God to let the next song on the radio say lift up if it was really God telling him this..the next song was about God lifting up Jesus from the grave . So it's the devil attacking our minds bc we ARE children of God. Also, here lately I've been hearing voices cuss me out when I pray. So let the Holy Spirit renew your thoughts and attitudes and trust in our Lord Jesus Christ..We have given our life to Jesus Christ and nothing will snatch us out of God's hand. Completely surrender and trust Him. I feel Him drawing me nearer and nearer the more I die to self and fully trust I decided to let go and trust no matter what thoughts or feelings come over me and I'm letting Jesus carry me. We are saved by Grace. Thank you God and Jesus.

 

[zachariahjosephturner]

Yea I still want to think the blasphemous thoughts againts the Spirit......even as I write that word the f word came in my mind Againts it.......95% of it is againts the spirit........if I even think about think about think about thinking about Holy Spirit The F word comes in my mind.......I don't want the thoughts at all.........but I could tell you a whole lot more it would take months........ it's been like this for 2 1/2 years I'm to the point now it's like it's a habit for my mind to think and be anti-God I don't want it to be that way and there's no more fear and I've become desensitized to everything my mind does it is if I want to thank them out of habit

 

[AshleySavedByGrace]

Yea I still want to think the blasphemous thoughts againts the Spirit......even as I write that word the f word came in my mind Againts it.......95% of it is againts the spirit........if I even think about think about think about thinking about Holy Spirit The F word comes in my mind.......I don't want the thoughts at all.........but I could tell you a whole lot more it would take months........ it's been like this for 2 1/2 years I'm to the point now it's like it's a habit for my mind to think and be anti-God I don't want it to be that way and there's no more fear and I've become desensitized to everything my mind does it is if I want to thank them out of habit

Just ask for forgiveness and know that Jesus forgives you. I'm constantly battling thoughts and it's worse as I'm waking up out of sleep in the morning. The more you worry about it being your thoughts..the worse it gets. Even if you are doing it just tell Him you're sorry and to help you. Just say forgive me Lord Jesus and let Him fight. We are weak and He is strong. I truly know how you feel and what you're going through. It sucks but maybe there is a reason why we are going through this..just rest and let Jesus handle it. He came to save the sinners. We need Him every second. God Bless You. If you ever need anyone to talk to I'm here for you.

 

[zachariahjosephturner]

It's just I feel like Satan is trying to brainwash my mind against the Holy Ghost you know it's like I don't feel him like I used to and I hate to say this but it's even weird to think about him in the sense I know my minds going to start cursing and it's just crazy

 

[AshleySavedByGrace]

It's just I feel like Satan is trying to brainwash my mind against the Holy Ghost you know it's like I don't feel him like I used to and I hate to say this but it's even weird to think about him in the sense I know my minds going to start cursing and it's just crazy

Yes we are being attacked. I keep hearing voices as I'm falling asleep telling me "please die" "shoot yourself" "we are running out of time" and "ashley" in different voices .. Last night me and my husband heard voices at the same time. As I'm praying I hear voices mocking me. As I'm singing to Jesus the demons try to twist my thoughts. It's demons attacking us. The blasphemous thoughts are constant and I don't want to write them bc the thoughts are evil and against what I believe. It's really sad bc I don't feel like my usual happy self. Like my joy has been stolen. I have little moments where I feel ok, but the moment I start smiling, I start having bad thoughts. And weird strong temptations to think the thoughts. Then I ask Jesus to forgive me, even though I know His blood washed away my sins. It's hard to let go and ignore the bad feelings and thoughts bc right when I do, the thoughts get worse. I love God and Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit, and the devil knows it, and hates us bc of it. We just have to trust Jesus Christ..our flesh is weak. Psalm 73:26 makes me feel better. I keep hoping and praying for Jesus to return soon. We are all being attacked right now..many are being beheaded. Matthew 24. Earthquakes are crazy right now. Only God our Father knows when our Lord Jesus is returning though. I'm hoping really soon. God Bless.

 

[zachariahjosephturner]

Your situation describes me perfectly it seems that everytime I try to feel happy or any type of positive emotion it makes me want to think all kinds of evil thoughts against the Holy Ghost AstraZeneca even having the enjoyment to go to a family function or hang out with a friend getting excited then it's took him away immediately by evil thoughts

 

[zachariahjosephturner]

It's like my mind doesn't want me to be happy ever so anytime I even feel a sense of Joy or just a little bit of peace my mind starts going to think those thoughts sometimes I can't stop myself it's like I think them and I just feel so guilty I know I don't believe them I mean it's crazy

 

[AshleySavedByGrace]

It's like my mind doesn't want me to be happy ever so anytime I even feel a sense of Joy or just a little bit of peace my mind starts going to think those thoughts sometimes I can't stop myself it's like I think them and I just feel so guilty I know I don't believe them I mean it's crazy

Yes me too. That is why I had to reply to your post bc I know exactly what you're going through. It's deception. The devil wants us to think it's our thoughts. The devil wants us to think that we can't be forgiven. A younger kid in my Sunday school class is going through this. He told me he kept getting a strong urge to follow you know who. He described it to me like a big swarm of knats attacking him. I think a lot of people go through this..they are just too afraid to tell others about it, bc the devil makes us feel afraid and shameful. God revealed to my Husband that I'm fearing Him/God the wrong way..like fear of going to hell. Jesus was tempted in every way we are tempted, except He never sinned. So He knows what we are going through. I'm learning to let go and trust Him no matter what enters my mind. It is working and I'm feeling a lot better..I still have my moments though. If you feel guilty just tell Jesus you're sorry and know that He forgives ALL sins. The thing is..if I never would have came across that sin .. I would have never had any of these thoughts. It all started from fear. And I think that is what happened with you. Stay in church and keep sharing God's Word no matter how bad you feel and no matter what enters your mind. Jesus will get you and me through this. Don't give up.

 

[zachariahjosephturner]

That is very true you truly encourage me I appreciate you a whole lot. I got saved in early 2009 and truly serve God with all my heart he was my everything day and night all I thought about read about spoke about was Jesus but this battle came out of nowhere the fear of the unpardonable sin which I dealt with when I first became a Christian but then it came back in 2013 and I don't know I've had everything and anything come in my mind I had urges so strong because the Holy Spirit and the hate the Holy Spirit and then it seems like I would play and it would just get worse and worse and worse

 

[zachariahjosephturner]

I even kind of back slid it just got to the point I didn't know what to do I love Jesus and want my relationship back with him countless times millions of times I would pray seek God and at the same time my mouth wanted to speak the most ungodly is foul language against the Holy Ghost it's crazy the unpardonable sin consumed my every waking moment but I know God can and will deliver me and is going to deliver me it's just so hard I suffer from constant anxiety derealization and depersonalization I never feel normal I don't know what that's like I feel like my next breath is my last

 

[AshleySavedByGrace]

I even kind of back slid it just got to the point I didn't know what to do I love Jesus and want my relationship back with him countless times millions of times I would pray seek God and at the same time my mouth wanted to speak the most ungodly is foul language against the Holy Ghost it's crazy the unpardonable sin consumed my every waking moment but I know God can and will deliver me and is going to deliver me it's just so hard I suffer from constant anxiety derealization and depersonalization I never feel normal I don't know what that's like I feel like my next breath is my last

Yes that is what the devil wants..for you to give up and to silence us..but don't give up. Just ask for forgiveness and turn from sin. Try to stay away from tv and internet .. Lots of deception. I only watch daystar and 700 club. In still trying to stay off the internet.. Lol. God does not give up on us..He is always with us through the good and bad. We are His children. I got to the point where I just wanted to lay in bed and sleep and cry..and I have 2 babies to take care of. I thought well if I sleep I won't think any bad thoughts. Then I started having nightmares and saying crap as I was waking out of sleep. A few days ago I woke up hearing the words "blasphemy" "blasphemy" over and over again. Then I would start accidentally saying the bad thoughts out loud, when trying to fight the thoughts myself, and then thought oh no I'm screwed! Then afterwards I would ask for forgiveness and then hear stuff like "obstinate" "backbiter" "son of perdition" "root of bitterness" etc. Then I would look them up in the bible thinking oh no! I'm in trouble! But I figured out it's the devil messing with my mind. We must let the Lord fight our battles. Read God's Word out loud too.

 

[zachariahjosephturner]

Do you ever feel the urge to constantly speak the blasphemous thoughts out loud..."mine have been there so long it's like I can just say them as casual words.....I don't mean them or agree with them what so ever its just now along with this craziness of the verbal compulsions I do to fight the thoughts my mouth keeps wanting to say the f word againts the Holy Ghost......the fear and and stuff like at the beginning is gone Iv become desensitized....which I guess is a good thing.....but I appreciate all your comments you've really encouraged me.......God bless you

 

[AshleySavedByGrace]

Do you ever feel the urge to constantly speak the blasphemous thoughts out loud..."mine have been there so long it's like I can just say them as casual words.....I don't mean them or agree with them what so ever its just now along with this craziness of the verbal compulsions I do to fight the thoughts my mouth keeps wanting to say the f word againts the Holy Ghost......the fear and and stuff like at the beginning is gone Iv become desensitized....which I guess is a good thing.....but I appreciate all your comments you've really encouraged me.......God bless you

Yes I do.. When I sing, pray, or when I'm trying to just take care of my kids..I have these horrible urges. All kinds of the most evil thoughts you could think of. Which is not like me at all. It's sad and scary for me. This is the beginning of fear for me..When I was little my cousins had told me that when I die, the grim reaper would take me to hell, and that I wasn't going to heaven, bc I was not going to church every sunday like they were. For some reason that made me fear God in the wrong way. We went to church and my parents are believers (my dad is in heaven now). Soon after my cousins told me that, I heard God's voice at a young age of 6, and I got down on my knees in my play room, and asked Him to forgive me of my sins, and for Him to come into my heart. Then soon after I learned more about God sending His Son Jesus to die for our sins. Soon after I came to a better understanding, I had a nightmare and heard Satan's voice telling me he would kill me one day..and I saw an angel in my room trying to get me to not be afraid and to go back to sleep. My neighbor saw a huge angel with wings, outside of our house too. I had a dream that my dad would die at a young age..and he passed at 36 from SLE Lupus. Not sure if God was letting me know before it happened, or if Satan was trying to scare me. I always prayed to God even through the tragedy. He has always been faithful. I prayed for a good husband and I got one I used to always joke to my mom telling her God would give me a little girl with curly hair..I got that too and neither one of us has curly hair. I live in an area that I have always wanted to live in.. I love to run the trails, it's so relaxing for me. God knew the desires of my heart without even asking. I've always loved God and Jesus and always will..growing up I didnt hear or learn about the holy spirit. I go to a Baptist Church. So when I first came upon that scary verse I dwelled on it worrying.. I just always had a fear and anxiety issue. (I used to have major panic attacks to the point where I would almost pass out bc my heart would race so fast. It got worse after my dad died. God healed me of that though..it took years but I see that He was strengthening me through that situation.) Years later, last summer, I started asking God if I was saved bc I was really worried. Felt like He was calling me back to Him. I kind of wandered..Like we all do..you get caught up in worldly things .. learned about the Holy Spirit and felt like God was telling me to go get baptized..So I did, and I was still fearing that sin to the point the blasphemous thoughts started happening more and more. Its been a year struggle. I really feel like Satan used my fear, and set me up to end up in this situation..but at the same time Jesus is telling me He is with me carrying me and strengthening me through this with His strength and God's grace. I also have a full understanding on how to be saved now..God brought me to that understanding in His own timing. Growing up I asked Jesus into my heart multiple times in church due to the fear of not being saved and worrying about going to hell. I was baptized last summer in my church, and publicly confessed Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior. I always was too nervous and shy to get up in front of a big crowd, but I finally did it and SO glad I did and thankful that God led me back to Him and to a full understanding. Sorry it's so long, just wanted to let you know a little about my story.

I will share how God answered me last summer when I asked Him if I was saved ..

 

[AshleySavedByGrace]

I was running one evening, here in Kingwood, and out of a bush, a huge beautiful butterfly flew into my face. It was black with red circles on it's wings. The biggest butterfly I have EVER seen..I jumped up in the air and said "oh my God!" ..and then continued to run, not thinking much of it. Well around that time, I had been praying a lot and asking God for a sign to show me that I am truly saved, so that I could have assurance. I told Him that I believed in Him, but was desperately needing a sign to know that He was still with me. I asked God into my heart when I was 6.. I have always believed in Him and prayed to Him, but lost some trust in Him after my Dad passed away suddenly from Lupus. I still felt God's presence in my life, but my Dad's death caused me fear and anxiety for many years. ..Two weeks later, after seeing the most interestingly beautiful butterfly, here on the trails in Kingwood... My Husband and I were enjoying an evening together, and were watching a movie. My Husband fell asleep sitting next to me, and after being asleep for about 30 minutes, he turned his head towards me, still asleep, and started speaking very clearly to me saying, "Did you not see the butterfly? ..It was black with red circles on it's wings" ..then he woke up and looked shocked, and told me he had a vision of Jesus Christ and an amazing butterfly, that was very big in size. He said that he felt Jesus grab his shoulder, and then the butterfly appeared next to His face. He woke up looking like the blood left his face, in shock. We were both in shock. I then told him about the butterfly I had seen on the trails.. the same one he was describing to me! That was no doubt, a sign from God. So I looked up what type of butterfly it was..and out of all the butterflies He decided to show me..it was a Crimson Patch Butterfly. That reminded me that we only have hope in Jesus, since He shed his crimson blood for us on the cross. His blood washed us completely clean from ALL of our sins! He is our blessed assurance. God knew we could not keep His commandments no matter how hard we try.. We are born sinners, born into sin, our flesh fails us..That is why He sent His only Son, Jesus Christ, to be the ultimate sacrifice for our sins. When we accept Jesus Christ into our heart, repent, turn away from sin, keep His commandments because we love Him, and love others as Christ loves us, we will be saved. Its not what we do it's what Jesus did for us. We are saved by Grace, not by works. ...I later called my Mom to tell her what had happened, and she shockingly told me that she had recently seen the SAME type of butterfly, one she's never seen before, black and big red circles on it's wings. She and my brother were in Ace Hardware in Atascocita and the butterfly kept flying around them INSIDE the store..They couldn't get it to quit following them! God was showing my family that He was still with us after everything we have been through, and to just put our complete trust in Him. We ALL have hope, only because of Jesus Christ.