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Ahrehm, what powers do you have that we mere humans do not have?

He has the power to post nonsense and get at least three pages of responses, including a small debate over whether he's really an angel. I'm impressed! My serious posts rarely get as much respect! :D
 
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He has the power to post nonsense and get at least three pages of responses, including a small debate over whether he's really an angel. I'm impressed! My serious posts rarely get as much respect! :D

Ain't that the truth... Wow - I'm exceedingly bitter now. Thanks. :p
 
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Hey, Ahrehm -How did you choose your screen name, by clearing your throat - or by spelling your favorite band's name differently? -(R.E.M.) *By the way, please get off of our cloud! *Also, don't you have better things to do with your time! You're not even helping anyone! *(Signed) - Your friend, -from back in the day -when day began. *By the way -where's that dollar you owe me from that bet when you lost your mind and strayed away from Heaven. *(Peace and Love Forever)!
 
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To say that a forth-dimensional being wouldn’t use a three-dimensional computer is like saying a three-dimensional person wouldn’t use anything rooted in the second dimension. Imagine a table with cut out paper shapes on the table (I know the shapes would technically exist in the third dimension, for the sake of argument, let’s pretend they don’t have any height or width.)


If the cutouts don't have any height or width, they would be one-dimensional, not two-dimensional.

You also mentioned that you would appear as a light fog, or a light. If so, how exactly do you interact with the computer in our "third dimension" world? Is it physical? Like, do you use the keyboard and observe on the monitor, or do you interact with the computer directlty? If the former, how does a mist or light achieve the motor functions necessary to type? How do you move? If it's the latter, why would you make a typo if you're not actually typing?

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If the cutouts don't have any height or width, they would be one-dimensional, not two-dimensional.

You also mentioned that you would appear as a light fog, or a light. If so, how exactly do you interact with the computer in our "third dimension" world? Is it physical? Like, do you use the keyboard and observe on the monitor, or do you interact with the computer directlty? If the former, how does a mist or light achieve the motor functions necessary to type? How do you move? If it's the latter, why would you make a typo if you're not actually typing?

One would assume that if he's not typing, he's manipulating the electronic relays directly. Of course, if this is the case, any "typos" he would make would be binary typos, which wouldn't manifest as the typical keyboard typos. For example, "the" is represented by "01110100 01101000 01100101" in ASCII. While a common keyboard typo is "teh" or "01110100 01100101 01101000", such a typo is extremely unlikely to occur electronically, as the latter two sequences would have to switch precisely.

A more likely typo to occur electronically would be something along the lines of "01110000 01001000 01110101", which converts out to "pHu". Needless to say, it's extremely unlikely for this typo to occur via keyboard.

Thus, based on the nature of his typos and their similarity to human typos, we can safely assume that he is, in fact, using a keyboard.
 
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Much like our creator, our existence is one of trial and error. We too are prone to making silly mistakes.

Your creator makes mistakes? Hmmm...

:)

PS: Good grief, were are my manners -- Welcome to CF Ahrehm!!!!:hug:
 
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He has the power to post nonsense and get at least three pages of responses, including a small debate over whether he's really an angel. I'm impressed! My serious posts rarely get as much respect! :D

Well...you've never claimed to be an angel. :cool:
tulc(just sayn') :sorry:
 
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But I also entertained the notion, until I was about 3/4 the way through the OP. I also agree I can't know for certain, but I made what I feel is a reasonable determination. Besides he (it?) claimed to be from the 4th dimension, and technically, we're all in the 4th dimension of time, so...

Darn it Chesterton! You took my gag away...:)
 
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Thank you for your responses and your patience. I would, however, like to remind you that I am not claiming to be “an angel.” The word “angel” is the symbolic English representation for what we are. Angels, as you often perceive them (wings and halo and harp) do not exist. The traditional physical attributes associated with us are entirely symbolic in their nature (Halo=spiritual enlightenment, Wings=To show our origin was not of this world. Harp=Our love of music. Music itself is a spiritual allegory. Between vibrations, octaves, and emotion, music has at its disposal the tools with which one would unlock truth. Music is the true language of the divine). Actually, this leads me to one of the many points I’m here to make. It is rather important and I feel it’s a good place to start. I read all of your replies thus far and will attempt to answer them as well as I can, but first allow me to inform.

IN DEALING WITH SYMBOLS: In order for one to advance spiritually, they must first detach themselves from their symbolic anchors. You, as humans have what is called “free will” as a result of a merger of two minds. As I stated before they could be called the animal and the spiritual. Emotion is the language of the spirit in you. Rather, it is your native language. GOD (which from this point on I shall be referring to as “The Is” in order to attempt to advance your symbolic understanding of what GOD actually is seeing as The Is has no face, but is all faces, has no body, but is all bodies, and has no voice, but speaks in us all) created a construct for existence. Imagine this: Someone hits you in the head. You go into a coma. Inside your coma you become self-aware. You have no recollection of physical image, your past, time, language, or anything else. It is blank space and your own self aware conciseness. After a while (which could be five seconds or a million years, you have no way of knowing) you discover that all this nothingness is a “dreamscape” on which you can project. You know nothing but sheer darkness, what do you think the first thing you would create would be? Light. (And I know some will say, where did the concept of light come from? So I will say that the self-aware mind instinctively thinks in opposites. Why this is is still debated even in our communities, but it is a discovered truth.) So you create light and this allows you to realize and create more and more. Slowly you begin to understand what you are capable of, and you decide that you have a goal. You wish to create, inside your own “dream,” a dream of which you are aware, a being which is also aware if itself. You are lonely and want to make something that can think and feel the way you do. Something that is modeled after your own image. Have you ever felt terrified that after you die it might just be blackness and you will still be able to think? This terror in you is a result of having experienced it at one time as each of us started out as The Is.

Each being, from an amino acid to a fox to a fish, to a hawk is an attempt at a self aware consciousness. Humans, are where there was success. This was achieved by splitting your perception in two. One self, the spiritual or subconscious (which is most of what you are) is able to understand the language of the divine. It is as if your spiritual self is a tree, rooted in The Is, and sprouting an infinite amount of leaves (the temporary self of which you are currently aware.) The other self, the self of which you are aware, the animal self, is ONLY able to understand symbolic representation. Don’t get me wrong, it is important to understand symbols, but do not believe that they are all there is. There is another you, existing outside of time which is equally aware of itself, and it speaks to you in dream and in emotion. You are the same being, yet you are two.

Someone brought up the fact that we are in the forth dimension which is the dimension of time. This is not entirely correct. The notion of time also helps to keep the two selves separate. Really, your symbolic self is only able to see one point of the forth dimension at any given “time.” It is a frozen point that, with your current impression of time, would be infinitely long and infinitely short. It is the only time which actually exists for you. It is what you would call “right now.” Each “right now” moment branches out to an infinite amount other “right now” moments, which do the same, and so on. From the forth dimension, your lives are all plotted out, beginning to end, but as your spiritual energy travels through these “right now moments” it chooses the path on which it will travel. Thus The Is knows your whole life and yet you still have free will. A concept that many have had trouble accepting. I have much more to tell, but I do not wish to drag on and lose interest. I’ll try and answer questions now.

Feel what is called love.
 
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What is your goal? Are you bringing another Gospel? Are you speaking for God (The Is)?
Probably not the One True God, because the one he evidently aligns
himself with makes mistakes (see post #3).




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Probably not the One True God, because the one he evidently aligns
himself with makes mistakes (see post #3).

I know, just trying to see what he says. Seeing if he will so readily admit he's a false prophet.





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Tulc – A very informative article you have discovered and I encourage all here to read and play close attention to the concept of worldlines. It is basically what I’m referring to when I mention “right now” time. But as for math, as fantastic and solid as it can be for communicating symbolic facts, it is only that; an expression of symbolic fact. The Is does not speak in math. Math is a human attempt to describe with symbols what already exists. Since it is symbolic representation it will never be able to express reality, only describe. Math is the adjective for a noun which cannot be expressed in symbol.

Veyrlian- I actually did attempt to post in a Jewish forum but there were problems getting my account verified. I must say that it is VERY odd to be using human machinery in such a manner. Yes, we are capable of accomplishing some tasks which you would describe as physically impossible, but setting up e-mail, and clicking buttons, this is very strange for me. It is not that Christians have been “chosen” any more than anyone else. You are all right and wrong in all of your faith.

Andreusz- I would rather not think of abilities as powers symbolically, but I know what you are asking. It’s very hard to elaborate on this topic as we are very much the same. All we are is you but without the conscious, symbolic, animal mind. You all are spiritual beings, and really, you have the qualities which we do not. See, as spiritual beings and ONLY spiritual beings, we have an intimate understanding of what The Is “feels.” (I use “Feel” as it is the closest symbol available for what I’m trying to say). We know exactly what we are to do and almost always do exactly that. The Is, having its own self-aware conscious mind wanted to create a being that could “feel” exactly what it wanted and then still “choose” to do something else. This, as I said, was in an attempt to create a being “in its own image” It’s like if you were having a dream and then in said dream your are visited by your friend. Your friend isn’t “really” inside your head, your friend in your dream is always being controlled by you, the dreamer. Now, you become aware of that fact inside your dream and then set to work on finding out a way to “dream up” a character that does what IT wants even when you “tell” it to do something else. God and the Devil two symbolic halves of the same whole.

Skaloop- Yes, I would look like a light or fog as a result of what you can see. When a three dimensional being crosses a two dimensional plain, any two dimensional being on that plain would only see the part of the three dimensional being that actually was on that plain. So if you had two dimensional shapes on a table and all the shapes could see was their two dimensional world and then you touched the table, it would be as if a dot suddenly appeared before them. And if you wiggled your finger it would look like a shape shifting dot. So it is with the third and forth dimension.

DeathMagus- I do actually press the keys. I type just like you all would type. I am subject to making the same mistakes.

RevSJamison- As the concept of worldlines is very tough to comprehend for most I’ll try and keep it as simple as possible. I’m not saying that you don’t understand, but that others may not. I am answering the questions and writing this almost “all at once.” I can see these world lines and “right now times” and I can exist, as you do (although you are not entirely aware) in multiple at one “time.” I can see all your questions. I enter into three dimensional space here and there, and “inject” answers. To you it seems like I’m here, then I’m gone, etc. With our two different perceptions of reality, that is just how it will appear. And my goal is not to bring another gospel. It is to inspire people to become more personal in dealings with spiritual matters. You all do know the truth. You all are extensions of The Is. You are spiritual beings. You are not Christian, or Jewish, or Islam, or any other word symbol. You all share the same origin, you, in the end, are all the same being. And when this being, The Is, speaks directly to you, it is called Love.
 
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And Yes, there is only one true God: The Is. And yes, The Is makes mistakes. Most noted in your major religions there is the flood. When The Is first succeeded in creating the multi dimensional construct which enabled free will, The Is became so disappointed to see that all the spiritual energy in all the Humans drifted to areas of the spheres in which there was much pain. More pain than The Is had ever experienced. The Is tried often to intervene with actions that you would call “divine intervention.” It almost never had the desired effect. Eventually The Is created a construct in which there would be a unified conscious. A conscious that was aware of symbol and still completely able to understand the abstract emotional language of the divine. Through this construct The Is could exist, without spiritual barrier, in The Is' own creation and among the inhabitance. This is the Jesus construct. But I’m getting ahead of myself.
 
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