Hello fellow scientists

[juvenissun]

Neither do you teach geology, if indeed you are a teacher. Assuming for the moment that you do teach; its creationism that you specialise in, i.e. magical mysticism.

Give us a list of your teaching material

How about posting something you teach, let’s say chalk formation.

However, I do not think there is a school anywhere that would leave you teach geology. I am also convinced you have no formal qualifications in geology.

What was you dissertation on.

Sorry, TemperateSeaIsland, I might just screw up your thread. But it is not my fault.

 

[thaumaturgy]

Sorry, TemperateSeaIsland, I might just screw up your thread. But it is not my fault.

Clearly this isn't necessarily the place to have a "go" at Juvenissun, but Juvenissun, you should definitely realize that when you raise your bona fides it will re-open the long-standing discussion around your "opaqueness" on your background.

You open yourself up to this sort of discussion precisely because you are such a mystery.

You should definitely be allowed to chime in without molestation, but the fact that you are always so guarded about who or what you really are raises suspicions, and I think you are fully aware of that.

Again, I am ever-fascinated by you. You are ostensibly a Christian yet you are easily the most veiled and mysterious of people in a field that is known for openness (science in general only works when it is open and forthright).

I am confused why a Christian who claims to be a scientist (two things which I was rather of the idea were founded on open honesty) should be the most veiled and mysterious about their background.

I think you are easily aware of what is being discussed here and I think you know exactly why people are jumping on your post. Don't play coy with this, please.

 

[juvenissun]

This thread is supposed to have people introduce him/her-self in the field of science. But, it, and this forum, and this site, is NOT the place to check or to confirm one's C.V. or background. One will be judged by what s/he said in terms of the content of post. The argument could be given by a professor 30 years in the teaching, or by a beginning amateur scientist. You don't have to take me so seriously on what I am, but rather on what I said in science.

An introduction of a geologist such as one made by Molar (#7) did not raise any eyebrow. How come one like mine irritated some responses? Even I might be a fake geologist, but every word I said in my introduction is true. And my idea is still exposed for everyone to criticize. A critical idea in Christianity is one should be judged by his fruit, but not by his appearance. In here, the appearance is what you said you are. And the fruit is what you said on issues. So far, I feel everyone fits what s/he said s/he is. Just wonder why is the reverse not be true.

 

[mpok1519]

yec geologist....?

what is that?

 

[Blayz]

ven I might be a fake geologist, but every word I said in my introduction is true. And my idea is still exposed for everyone to criticize.

Which is what I did. A geologist cannot teach evolution. I disagree with you (and indeed some of the others here) that anything other than biology is anything but peripheral to evolution.

I have a feeling you have an undergrad degree in some physical science and are in fact a primary or secondary school teacher, and have never done a stich of research in your life. However, given you insist on shrouding yourself in mystery, it remains but a guess.

 

[juvenissun]

yec geologist....?

what is that?

A Christian geologist who does not believe the earth is 4.5 billion years old.

 

[juvenissun]

Which is what I did. A geologist cannot teach evolution.

Ha, I don't care what you think about this. But you may have to deal with others who learned some geology.

I disagree with you (and indeed some of the others here) that anything other than biology is anything but peripheral to evolution.

The evolution of life is closely environment related. The study of environment is not a major domain of biology. Is this enough to answer your comment?

 

[Blayz]

Ha, I don't care what you think about this. But you may have to deal with others who learned some geology.

Should they raise their ugly heads (or furry feet, in the case of Baggins) I will be more than happy to do so.

The evolution of life is closely environment related. The study of environment is not a major domain of biology. Is this enough to answer your comment?

Nope, because you are wrong. Environmental Biology is important enough to have its own departments at Universities. it even has its own journal
http://www.geocities.com/j_environ_biol/

 

[thaumaturgy]

One will be judged by what s/he said in terms of the content of post.

Well, then, you've no one to blame but yourself for the kind of response you get. Your posts so far have pretty much every single geologist on this board assuming you aren't a geologist.


As I said, this is clearly not the place for this, but don't act "amazed" when it is brought up. YOU have veiled yourself so opaquely and spoken so strangely it is a question that will hound you every time you speak about science.

Why not just clear the air?

An introduction of a geologist such as one made by Molar (#7) did not raise any eyebrow.

That's because Molal has on numerous occasions shown he is capable in geology.

How come one like mine irritated some responses?

Because you have, in the past, demanded your unique "definition" of mountain was correct and others incorrect, and your "defense" of your point amounted to a "geology for kiddies webpage" link which didn't even technically support your point. You do speak condescendingly to the scientists but you yourself have shown only an inkling of scientific background or knowledge, you have actively hidden knowledge when your flood theories were challenged, and you have made claims that it is up to your students to catch you in an error. You have indicated you are familiar with the conference scene in the sciences, but you don't seem capable of supporting your own points which indicates that you may have never defended a thesis let alone presented at a science conference.

Here's a couple of my favorite Juvenissun quotes that establish exactly how dedicated I think you really are to the truth.

Even I do have something, I won't tell you. The reason is obvious.

It is VERY EASY to explain that what you said above does not apply to the situation of a global flood. But I am NOT going to tell you why this time. Why should I educate you if you do not appreciate anything I have said? I have posted many idea along this thread. However, to you, it seemed I have said nothing. If so, why should I continue?

You see, Juvenissun, people aren't "out to get you" because you are just a nice Christian, people are merely trying to figure out this veiled, mystery who claims to speak knowledgeably in a field but so seldom rises to the requisite skill. (This is not to denigrate the occasions when you do mention geologically correct phenomena as you have on occasion, but by and large I am not impressed by your "geologic skills")

Even I might be a fake geologist

So which is it? Are you a geologist or not?

A YEC geologist with no boss on earth.

Now, granted, I think YEC's are by definition not geologists because they don't understand geology, but you could certainly be a "geologist". So do tell us, no more "playing loosely" with terms, are you a geologist by degree, by profession or by "wish"?

, but every word I said in my introduction is true.

So you are unemployed? That's too bad. But then that makes me wonder about your claims to be a teacher in previous posts.

Again, you see the problem we have here. Your words are a trail and a witness to who you are. You say many things and we are never sure exactly what you mean.

Why is the "truth" such a hard concept to understand? Can you not speak directly?

And my idea is still exposed for everyone to criticize.

Well, even by your own actions you know that isn't totally true. Remember, you like to hide information!

Even I do have something, I won't tell you. The reason is obvious.

A critical idea in Christianity is one should be judged by his fruit

Don't worry on that count. I think everyone has pretty well judged you by your fruit.

, but not by his appearance.

Your appearance is shadowy and veiled. You do not appear to be who you claim to be. Dissemblance and shadows and smoke and mirrors. I wonder if that is your ministry?

In here, the appearance is what you said you are. And the fruit is what you said on issues.

Indeed. But the sum of your words speak louder than what you may wish to say this time, because with you, we can never be sure what your "next line" will be.

So far, I feel everyone fits what s/he said s/he is. Just wonder why is the reverse not be true.

Because you have kept it hidden. No one on here has done such an effective job of hiding their face as you have. And for that you should be proud, if, indeed, smoke and shadow is where you live.

 

[thaumaturgy]

A geologist cannot teach evolution.

I will have to disagree with you on this, Blayz. Geologists are required to cover Paleontology which is the first line of data indicating life changing over time and adapting to changing environments. Paleontology is still usually considered a subsection of geology in most universities here in the states.

Certianly this doesn't cover the mechanisms like Biology does, it is certainly how I came to evolution, through paleontology.

 

[juvenissun]

The evolution of life is closely environment related. The study of environment is not a major domain of biology. Is this enough to answer your comment?

Nope, because you are wrong. Environmental Biology is important enough to have its own departments at Universities. it even has its own journal

Even you are right. I am still right. (is your sense of logic good enough to see it)

 

[ChordatesLegacy]

Those are just breeds of the same species. Arsenic microevolution.

Is that different to arsenic macroevolution!!!!!!

 

[Blayz]

Even you are right. I am still right. (is your sense of logic good enough to see it)

Mate, you believe a talking snake convinced a rib-woman to eat fruit from a magical tree. My most devout wish is that my sense of logic and yours never intersects.

 

[juvenissun]

Mate, you believe a talking snake convinced a rib-woman to eat fruit from a magical tree. My most devout wish is that my sense of logic and yours never intersects.

This shows your sense of logic is a mess.

You only disagreed on the content. The logic of your sentence is correct:

"you believe A convinced B to do C from E".

 

[Blayz]

This shows your sense of logic is a mess.

You only disagreed on the content. The logic of your sentence is correct:

"you believe A convinced B to do C from E".

...and so far, my wish is coming true, thank the gods

 

[juvenissun]

...and so far, my wish is coming true, thank the gods

My God is more logical than all your gods.

 

[Aerika]

I'm not a Scientist but I'm a huge fan of CBS' Big Bang Theory, does that count for anything?

http://www.cbs.com/primetime/big_bang_theory/

 

[Cabal]

Anyway, getting slightly back to the topic at hand:

I'm currently doing an M.Phys in Physics at the University of St Andrews, Scotland, just finished year 4 of 5. Haven't had a major research project so far (until my masters kicks off next year), but I've done bits and pieces including:

- putting together one of our school's magneto-optical trap and lasers for creating ultracold Li and Rb Bose-Einstein condensates
- Interned at Fermilab where I helped test the forward pixel array components for the Large Hadron Collider's Compact Muon Solenoid detector
- currently, I'm working in St Andrews School of Mathematics, working on solar modelling (specifically the Grad-Shafranov equation and using it in a predictor-corrector model to analyse the solar magnetic field)
- later this summer I'll be working on a particular trapping mode of an electrostatic trap for ultracold molecules in the Max Planck Institute for Quantum Optics.

 

[Blayz]

My God is more logical than all your gods.

Really? What a sad petty thing he must be then, to be bounded by the constraints of logic.

 

[atomweaver]

Polymer chemist, although my scientific duties are now 70% ceremonial (I manage a laboratory, in addition to handling most of the direct sales for the small company I work for).

For most of my career, the focus has been on commercial applications of UV initiated free radical photo-polymerization...