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States of mind are real places. I have been in a few.So I have seen lately that Hell is getting redefined to not really be a place of torment but just the fact that since God is everywhere than it will be awful for non Christians and to them that will be Hell. I was surprised to learn that the idea of Hell that many Christians know has not always existed. I was taught that Hell was a real place so is it real or just a state of mind?
When Jesus describes it sure sounds real to me.So I have seen lately that Hell is getting redefined to not really be a place of torment but just the fact that since God is everywhere than it will be awful for non Christians and to them that will be Hell. I was surprised to learn that the idea of Hell that many Christians know has not always existed. I was taught that Hell was a real place so is it real or just a state of mind?
Psychopathic, or are we just underestimating the severity of sinning against an absolutely and infinitely holy God?States of mind are real places. I have been in a few.
I think the place of torment exists, but it being an eternal fate sounds psychopathic.
I have no interest in arguing with you.Based on what? Your opinion?
Didn't say it was a dirty word. Sometimes we get carried away in our opinions and extrapolations when the Bible gives us straight answers.I have no interest in arguing with you.
I said "agape", so let's pretend we understand it's obvious my opinion is based on my understanding (opinion) of agape.
"Opinion" is not a dirty word.
And infinitely vengeful, and infinitely merciless, and , infinitely vindictive? hmmmmPsychopathic, or are we just underestimating the severity of sinning against an absolutely and infinitely holy God?
But more often when we take the "straight answers" of the Bible and embroider them with our own presuppositions. What did our Lord say about hell, as opposed to what our doctrines teach about it?Didn't say it was a dirty word. Sometimes we get carried away in our opinions and extrapolations when the Bible gives us straight answers.
Well no, otherwise there'd be no Christians who are just as deserving as non-believersAnd infinitely vengeful, and infinitely merciless, and , infinitely vindictive? hmmmm
Just like the trinity is articulated?Revelation 20:14-15
Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire. And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.
Hell is an actual lake of fire; if it was the presence of God then I think the scriptures would say this, would they not?
Revelation 20:14-15
Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire. And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.
Hell is an actual lake of fire; if it was the presence of God then I think the scriptures would say this, would they not?
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