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And then there's the KJB that removes all confusion.That there is a contemporary confusion as to the concept of "hell" doesn't mean it was invalid when Christian ideas were translated into the languages of early Germanic people. That's not a reasonable argument.
And then there's the KJB that removes all confusion.
Either that, or It corrects any misunderstanding between the two.[quoteViaCrucis]that doesn't remove confusion that perpetuates confusion.[/QUOTE]The only confusion I see is the confusion that "scholars" allow to happen.No, the KJV conflates Hades with Gehenna,
What Bible is that, may I ask?No. The Bible says ᾅδης and γέεννα.
-CryptoLutheran
If I was to order this "Christian bible" online, what name would it go by?The Christian one.
-CryptoLutheran
If I was to order this "Christian bible" online, what name would it go by?
Contemporary misinformation or misunderstanding doesn't nullify the validity of ancient translation attempts, it only renders it necessary to properly define terms in their historical context.
That there is a contemporary confusion as to the concept of "hell" doesn't mean it was invalid when Christian ideas were translated into the languages of early Germanic people. That's not a reasonable argument.
-CryptoLutheran
I agree with you. we experience so much of hell in this life.The very idea of "hell" is obscene. Anyone who makes it through this miserable life with their sanity intact deserves a medal, not "hell".
Then look in the right place: the Bible.
Take all of Christian theology into consideration; not just the part about Hell.
You will find the Antidote to your perplexity.What exactly is making you disrespecting them/us in the first place?
Many people who believe in literal eternal hell are pleasant and nice. Deep inside they hate this idea but they don't know better.The people who believe in a literal Hell are usually people that are not very pleasant to begin with. I think these are people who are dwelling in a spiritual Hell already, and they desire to pull as many people down with them as they can. They don't know how to escape.
I believed in eternal hell because I was told that this is how it works with God. I hated it, I couldn't understand "why" but I didn't know better.
There's almost as many conceptions of hell as there are Christians, but I want to talk about a very specific one, and ONLY that.
So if you believe that Hell is God's absence, or his presence as experienced through the mind of the unregenerate sinner, or annihilation, or a temporary place of purification, or a conundrum to be solved by trusting that a just God would find a way to do the right thing and save all - this thread might not be for you.
The conception of hell that I address here is a place of literal torment, where sapient beings are deliberately sent by God for failing to be as flawless as a deity, and where they'll spend eternity with no chance of redeption or mercy.
To me, such a conception of hell reflects *extremely* badly on the corresponding conception of deity, and no argument from authority ("who are YOU to question an all-powerful being?????") will resolve the matter.
So, if you believe that it is literally impossible for any of us to measure up to God's standard, and we are then punished for it - that's like torturing a dog with a branding iron for its failure to comprehend algebra. Or setting up an eight-meter pit (with poisoned spikes at the bottom) for people to jump over when you *know* they'll never get further than 6 m.
And I'm sorry, but basically extending a pardon to all who wave the right party membership card doesn't solve the moral dilemma here, either, because people are still being sent to Cosmic Auschwitz.
In short: how do you manage to reconcile this belief with anything remotely resembling justice?
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