Hell: Who's Going?

[GBTWC]

 

[Stinker]

Originally Posted by Stinker
Of the people who have never had the opportunity to hear and fully understand the Gospel, there will be some who will inherit eternal life. The people who do not, are those who did hear and fully understand the Gospel but chose not to truely believe.

If what you (and I believe phoenixgw) are saying is true, then people don't have to believe in Jesus as their "God" but more so just do as He did. Are you (or is the bible) implying that through practice of Jesus' words and actions people will be saved? And that even those who have never heard of Jesus will enter the "kingdom" by simply (and "naturally") doing as He did?

Well, it says in (Rom.2:14) that when people do by nature the things contained in the law (10 Commandments) that this is the standard by which they will be judged. Now how many could keep these Commandments in the Old Testament? Not very many. So this, in comparison to the way of salvation via the New Testament, is hardly an easy advantage!

 

[FollowTheLamb]

God does not demand the impossible of us, if through no fault of our own, we don`t fully accept Jesus as the ONLY way.

The above sentence is not grammatically correct, so it doesn't make much sense.

God will see our inner most thoughts, and He will take all into account. We know that God loves us, and He is a fair and righteous Judge.

God sees our innermost thoughts and calls on us to repent. He has already revealed His full will in His written Word. He commands us to do the impossible, which is to be made righteous. That is accomplished only through the forgiveness of sins through faith and repentance toward God, and the washing and regeneration of the Holy Spirit. All who do not come to faith in Christ will perish, as clearly stated in John 3:16.

Personally I believe that Hell is for Satan and his followers only

This is why we need to repent. If we are not followers of Jesus, we are followers of Satan: "in which you once walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air..." (Eph. 2:2).

 

[xino]

I've had this conversation a few times with friends, but many seem to disagree with me. What do you all think?

John 14:6,7: "No one can come to the father unless he comes through Me. If you know Me, you know the Father".

What does the above verse imply/mean? Better yet, what does "know" mean?

Many people are convicted within their own hearts of what they believe to be the "truth" - yet, they don't know Jesus - or simply don't accept him as the Son of God.

BIBLE - [First John 2:22]: "Who is the liar if not he who is denying that Jesus is the Christ? This is the Antichrist, who is denying the Father and the Son."

QUR'AN - [Surah 9:30]: "The Jews said, 'Ezra is the son of allah', while the Christians said, "Jesus is the son of Allah!". These are BLASPHEMIES uttered by their mouths. They thus match the blasphemies of those who have disbelieved in the past. allah condemns them."

[Qur'an 5:75]: "The Messiah, Christ, the son of Mary, was NO MORE than a messenger."

Muslims / Jews / Buddhists / + many other religions have intensely strong beliefs in their "god" but again, do not know Jesus as the way to the Father.

So my question is this: According to the Bible, are Jews, Muslims, and pretty much anyone that doesn't go through Jesus condemned to "hell"?

yes...pretty much they are going to hell!

Just like the Jehovah's Witnesses, they talk about GoD all the time but not Jesus!

Jesus is the only one to look upon to!

 

[If Not For Grace]

What does the above verse imply/mean? Better yet, what does "know" mean?

Know implies personal relationship. Not just belief. "even the demons believe" shows us that some who have been acquainted with God, Jesus, etc. choose not to accept the personal relationship that is intended. That's why you hear the phrase "personal saviour" thrown around abit.

 

[revmalone]

Greetings
Jesus was more then just a messenger, In your Quran it says Jesus was born of the virgin mary also, if he was not Gods Son, then were did Jesus get his blood from?

To deny that truth is to reject both the Bible as well as the Quran, and that would be to deny your own faith.

God placed Jesus into the virgins womb by the Holy Spirit to by pass the sinful seed man passes down to there children, from Adams to today, Jesus carried the Blood of his heavenly father to shed to pay the price of sin.

The sacrifices from old was that blood had to be shed to pay for there sins every year, the blood of animals could not do away the price required to pay for sins.

It would take pure blood void of mans tainted seed, that was why he was virgin born, and beause Jesus shed his pure blood he has been given all power until time he gives all the works back to the Father, completed, finished.

So now there is only one sin charged to mankind and that is to reject the work that God has done to make a way for all to be forgiven, that is why Jesus told us he was the way, not because ego, but because he is the container that brought the pure blood for the sacrifice that paid the price of sin once and for all time.

Those who reject the sacrifice will be those who perish.