Hell is real

[Leah]

the Kingdom of heaven and heaven itself are two seperate things.
I do not have the time to get into at the moment.

Exactly.

 

[Leah]

Why is the concept of hell needed?

because we have some folks out in the world telling lies and saying that it either doesn't exist, that no one goes there or that it's only for bad people who are not like the 'in crowd'.

 

[angelmom01]

the Kingdom of heaven and heaven itself are two seperate things.
I do not have the time to get into at the moment.

As I said, I was not talking about some "far off" place; I was speaking about the kingdom of God/Heaven that is within in order to make the connection back to hell (the topic of this thread) in relation to Pro 15:24. However, the conversation never got that far due to the back and forth conversation over the verses that were posted.

angelmom

 

[angelmom01]

Calm down.

Who says that I am not calm? I am perfectly calm.

What you said here is right. But so what what I said, too. No one is wrong. We just are speaking about different things concerning the now and later.

Apparently so. So perhaps we shouldn't be so quick to accuse or jump to wrong conclusions?

But Jesus does talk about His return. Why do people seem to disregard that fact?

Did I say that Jesus does not return?

And when you say the kingdom of heaven is in us, you mean that because Christ is in us and we are[to be] the temples of the Holy Spirit (because we both know that the Spirit will not dwell in a dirty and disorderly place), that our days here on earth can be like heaven on earth (figurative speech for satisfied, joyfilled, holy and victorious lives). Right? Because there really is no way for the kingdom of God to be in you other than that way.

God is Spirit and invisible, why is it so difficult to believe that His kingdom is "in" us (in a spiritual way) or that we are not "in" the kingdom?

Doesn't it say that He is not far from any one of us?

I am not talking about a physical kingdom, obviously. And neither were the verses that I quoted.

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. But I know I'm not.

Alrighty, then. Good to know.

 

[Fireinfolding]

Joh 14:2-3 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

How does he “come again” to receive us “unto himself” so that where he is we may be also? He answers that himself:

Joh 14:18-20 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you. 19 Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also. 20 At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, AND I IN YOU.

We are where he is because he comes to us. WE are the "many mansions" that are in the Fathers house.

Good posts Angelmom, many mansions

Split MANSIONS ... MAN-SIONS Kool Huh?

Sounds like...

MOUNT SION... Spirits of righteous MEN made perfect

Ever notice "an entrance" into the Kingdom is actually a "ministered one"? Thats interesting.


Peace

Fireinfolding

 

[angelmom01]

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Good posts Angelmom, many mansions

Split MANSIONS ... MAN-SIONS Kool Huh?

Sounds like...

MOUNT SION... Spirits of righteous MEN made perfect

Ever notice "an entrance" into the Kingdom is actually a "ministered one"? Thats interesting.


Peace

Fireinfolding

YES!! COOL!

Heb 12:22 But ye are come ~unto mount Sion~, and unto ~the city of the living God~, the ~heavenly Jerusalem~, and ~to an innumerable company of angels~,


angelmom