Hell for non prayers

[Ron Gurley]

Here is what creates a spiritual relationship between God and Man:

John 1:12
But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become "children of God", even to those who believe in His name,

 

[GTW27]

How could a person not pray when they have The Holy Spirit within. Sometimes The Holy Spirit intercedes for us.

 

[Luke50]

Here is what creates a spiritual relationship between God and Man:

John 1:12
But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become "children of God", even to those who believe in His name,

Put your Protestant view aside for one time and think over it again

 

[Luke50]

RESPONSE TO POST #18 Q1:.."I believe that he will punish those who don't pray...

Please copy and paste Scripture from the NASB HERE which you think support that view.

Q2:..."without praying you can't have a relationship with "God"..."

Please copy and paste Scripture from the NASB HERE which you think support that view.

Genesis 1:26
Then God (elohim= plural) said, “Let Us make man(kind) in Our (SPIRITUAL) image, according to Our likeness;(character)

Deuteronomy 8:5
Thus you are to know in your heart that the Lord your God was disciplining you just as a man disciplines his son.

disciplines...Hebrews 3256...yacar...I.to chasten...instruct, admonish

Psalm 4:1
[ Evening Prayer of Trust in God. ] [ For the choir director; on stringed instruments. A Psalm of David.(A SINNER!) ] Answer me when I call, O God of my righteousness! You have relieved me in my distress; Be gracious to me and hear my prayer..

Psalm 51:ALL!
[ A Contrite Sinner’s Prayer for Pardon. ] [ For the choir director. A Psalm of David, when Nathan the prophet came to him, after he had gone in to Bathsheba. ] Be gracious to me, O God, according to Your lovingkindness; According to the greatness of Your compassion blot out my transgressions.

Psalm 66:19
But certainly God has heard; He has given heed to the voice of my prayer.

Philippians 4:6
Be anxious for nothing, but in everything by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known to God.

2 Chronicles 6:39
then hear from heaven, from Your dwelling place, their prayer and supplications, and maintain their cause and forgive Your people who have sinned against You.

2 Chronicles 7:14
and My people who are called by My name humble themselves and pray and seek My face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, will forgive their sin and will heal their land.

25And a lawyer stood up and put Him to the test, saying, "Teacher, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?" 26And He said to him, "What is written in the Law? How does it read to you?" 27And he answered, "YOU SHALL LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL, AND WITH ALL YOUR STRENGTH, AND WITH ALL YOUR MIND; AND YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF."

How can you say you love God but don' Pray ? How can you show God your Love without talking/praying to him ?

 

[Gabriel Anton]

Will you go to Hell if you dont pray ?

I think so, what do you think ?

Peace be with you.

You ask tough questions.

Your question is like, "Will you die if you don't eat."

From Catholic Tradition, "Prayer is an essential ingredient in Salvation for the Rehabilitation and Reformation of the Soul."

I'm watching to see what I can learn from you, Luke50 of the Orthodox Faith.

God bless you.

 

[Luke50]

Peace be with you.

You ask tough questions.

Your question is like, "Will you die if you don't eat."

From Catholic Tradition, "Prayer is an essential ingredient in Salvation for the Rehabilitation and Reformation of the Soul."

I'm watching to see what I can learn from you, Luke50 of the Orthodox Faith.

God bless you.

God bless you too my brother

 

[Rajni]

So how often do you believe one has to pray to avoid punishment for not doing so?

*bump*

 

[Phantasman]

Do you fear God ?

There is a healthy fear of God the father. And a fear not beneficial to truth.

In spirit I don't fear God. Only my infallible body can fear. How does one fear love?

Romans:
13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.

The Hebrew scriptures taught fear of God. Jesus freed us from that fear.

John:
36 If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.

I do not live a life of fear of anything, including death.

 

[Phantasman]

I I pray so no. But I believe that he will punish those who don't pray, because without praying you can't have a relationship with god

The Jews pray. They don't accept Jesus as son of God the Father. Idol worshipers prayed.

Without knowledge of Truth, how does praying save you.

Jesus told us not only how and what to pray (for), but who to pray to. His Father whom he glorified.

Prayer is commune with God the Father by closing out the physical, and entering the spiritual (going into a closet and shutting the door as to not be influenced by physical distractions)

I ask but listen more.

Colossians.
9 For this cause we also, since the day we heard it, do not cease to pray for you, and to desire that ye might be filled with the knowledge of his will in all wisdom and spiritual understanding;
10 That ye might walk worthy of the Lord unto all pleasing, being fruitful in every good work, and increasing in the knowledge of God;

 

[Phantasman]

*bump*

Paul said "Pray without ceasing".

The kingdom of God is here. Inside and outside of us. Our spirit lives in it as the body lives outside of it. When we allow the spirit within us to dictate our thoughts and decisions, this is prayer as well.

Matthew:
5 And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.
7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.

 

[SkyWriting]

Will you go to Hell if you don't pray ?
I think so, what do you think ?

The only unforgiven sin is rejecting God's Holy Spirit.

 

[Rajni]

Paul said "Pray without ceasing".

The kingdom of God is here. Inside and outside of us. Our spirit lives in it as the body lives outside of it. When we allow the spirit within us to dictate our thoughts and decisions, this is prayer as well.

Matthew:
5 And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.
7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.

Exactly.

So if it's being proposed that we are saved through prayer, I don't know of anyone who prays without ceasing.

I think that's why those who believe that the prayerless are hell-bound aren't keen on answering my question.

 

[Luke50]

Exactly.

So if it's being proposed that we are saved through prayer, I don't know of anyone who prays without ceasing.

I think that's why those who believe that the prayerless are hell-bound aren't keen on answering my question.

Lol i dont answer troll questions.

"thank God for coffee" that says all about you

 

[Rajni]

Lol i dont answer troll questions.

"thank God for coffee" that says all about you

Sorry to have hit a nerve there, mate!

So... do you pray without ceasing?

 

[Luke50]

Sorry to have hit a nerve there, mate!

So... do you pray without ceasing?

May god bless you!

 

[Rajni]

May god bless you!

Thank you; He surely has!
May He bless you too!

 

[Jesus4Ever]

How can you have a relationship with Jesus without praying to Him?

 

[Rajni]

How can you have a relationship with Jesus without praying to Him?

Praying as part of a healthy relationship with the Lord is one thing.
However, praying simply to stay out of hell seems rather shallow.
Grovelling isn't really a relationship.

 

[Phantasman]

How can you have a relationship with Jesus without praying to Him?

How can you have a relationship with Jesus if you don't hear him?

Matthew:
But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.

Matthew:
After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven,

Mark:
And when ye stand praying, forgive, if ye have ought against any: that your Father also which is in heaven may forgive you your trespasses. (no Priest need apply)

John:
And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

Colossians:
We give thanks to God and the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ

The (catholic) Trinity lie has most confused. No one comes to the Father except by the knowledge of who the Living God is through the truth Jesus taught (glorification of the Father).[/QUOTE]

 

[Radrook]

Will you go to Hell if you dont pray ?

I think so, what do you think ?

That's quite an extremely sensitive deity you are describing there amigo. I mean, Wow! and Yow!Sending people to be tortured with fire forever simply because they choose not to speak to him? Tell me-would you vote someone with that particular mentality into office?