Hell doesn't exist and there is no eternal suffering, instead bad peolle just cease to exist

[timothyu]

But I would suggest you join a bible class, which is led by an ordained Minister.

That is independent of the rules and doctrines of their denomination? Focusing only on the Gospel of the Kingdom? Won't find one.

 

[Andrewn]

Who do you think are those who are now dead?

I quoted from the CSB. The word “now” is not present in the Greek and was added by the CSB translators to align with their theological beliefs. You can also find it in some other translations of the same ilk, like the NIV and NLT.

"Those who are dead" are clearly those who were dead when Christ went to preach the Gospel in the Spirit Prison.

 

[Andrewn]

I believe at the beginning.

I think so, too. You and I share many views, even though our Christian backgrounds might be quite different.

 

[JulieB67]

I think so, too. You and I share many views, even though our Christian backgrounds might be quite different.

I think we do.

What are your beliefs on verse 5? We know Christ states blessed are those that take part in the first resurrection.

Revelation 20:4 "And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the Word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years."


Revelation 20:5 "But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection."

You most likely already know that these are two different Greek words although similar

The word for lived in verse 4 is zao which is to live, quick

The word for lived in verse 5 is anazao which is to recover life, live again, revive.

I've talked to people that believe these people are actually dead and I've seen teachings where these people are spiritually dead and are part of the millennium.

 

[Jipsah]

Talk about filling in the blanks, do you really think that God has to justify everything He does to the likes of yourself.

Or the likes of you. You've no guarantee that you aren't one of the Evil Robots, now do you?

You come across like a control freak

Really? How interesting! How long have you been into amateur psychology?

, who demands detailed explanation of every single thing God does.

Nah, I just sit back and marvel at the sort of rubbish that some folks believe that God does or doesn't do based on God-only-knows what. And part of the marvel is how that can blow and posture and pontificate s though they'd been given their, she we say, dubious, notions of what God will or won't do via Divine revelation of some sort.

• Isaiah 40:13-14 These verses highlight that God has no need for counsel from humanity

How novel! I'd have sworn that He hangs on your every word. <Laugh>

• • "Who has directed the Spirit of the LORD, Or as His counselor has taught Him?"

The actually question isn't whether God should accept my counsel, but whether anyone at all should accept yours. I read the Gospels, and I read your beliefs, and I'm dogged if I see very much overlap there. Why did our Lord have to die if He had already who would roast and who wouldn't before He created Adam.

Could He have done that? Of course! Did He actually do that? If so, why? Why God through all the trouble of ctrting the illusion that there was hope for at least some of humanity, when in fact there was none? And why did our Lord say so much stuff that, if your pernicious beliefs are true, were simply false?

Nah, the trick is that if your rubbish was actually true, then the gospel is simply a practical joke played to see how many will fall for it.

• • "With whom did He take counsel

Not with you, matey; on that we may rely.