Heliocentrism

[Loudmouth]

Do you believe the earth moves in space? if so, is it okay with you if I do also?

What does the Bible say?

 

[AV1611VET]

What does the Bible say?

Psalm 93:1 The LORD reigneth, he is clothed with majesty; the LORD is clothed with strength, wherewith he hath girded himself: the world also is stablished, that it cannot be moved.

Your turn.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Let's bottom-line this.

Do you believe the earth moves in space? if so, is it okay with you if I do also?

Of course I believe that the Earth moves in space. And it is fine with me if you believe that too.

As Loudmouth indicated the Bible says otherwise, and quite clearly too. Just as clearly as it says hmmm, what does it say it just as clearly as???.. Oh yeah! It makes that claim just as clearly as it claims that God created Man and Woman, you know Adam and Eve. So if you start believing a heresy such as the Earth moving in space no one knows to what other heresies that could lead to

 

[Loudmouth]

Psalm 93:1 The LORD reigneth, he is clothed with majesty; the LORD is clothed with strength, wherewith he hath girded himself: the world also is stablished, that it cannot be moved.

Your turn.

So the world does not move according to the Bible, correct?

 

[AV1611VET]

As Loudmouth indicated the Bible says otherwise, and quite clearly too.

I'll cut Loudmouth & CabVet some slack for not taking into account the fact that the book of Psalms is known as Hebrew poetry.

Would you like me to do the same with you?

 

[AV1611VET]

So the world does not move according to the Bible, correct?

Incorrect.

 

[Loudmouth]

I'll cut Loudmouth & CabVet some slack for not taking into account the fact that the book of Psalms is known as Hebrew poetry.

Would you like me to do the same with you?

Genesis 1 is hebrew mythology.

 

[Loudmouth]

Incorrect.

So you have Plutoed the Psalms.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I'll cut Loudmouth & CabVet some slack for not taking into account the fact that the book of Psalms is known as Hebrew poetry.

Would you like me to do the same with you?

Some people think of the whole Bible as poetry. That is no excuse. And there are other verses in the Bible that indicate the Earth does not move too, and none that you I can think of that indicate the opposite. Here is one that I just copied:

1 Chronicles 16:30
tremble before him, all earth; yea, the world stands firm, never to be moved.

And here is a link to an excellent article siting many verses and concepts that show the Bible describes the Earth as unmoving:Scripture Catholic - GEOCENTRISM

Now, you can risk your life believing that the Earth moves, I am starting to have second thoughts.

 

[Subduction Zone]

So you have Plutoed the Psalms.

 

[CabVet]

So you have Plutoed the Psalms.

Hahah! Nice!

 

[eclipsenow]

But that is not what you asked, is it? Does the Bible say the earth cannot be moved? Yes or no?

This whole conversation reminds me of Romeo and Juliet.

"It is the east, and Juliet is the sun. Arise, fair sun, and kill the envious moon, Who is already sick and pale with grief,"

Now, will someone please tell me why Romeo thinks Juliet is a giant hydrogen fuelled fusion reactor?

 

[Mr Strawberry]

This whole conversation reminds me of Romeo and Juliet.

"It is the east, and Juliet is the sun. Arise, fair sun, and kill the envious moon, Who is already sick and pale with grief,"

Now, will someone please tell me why Romeo thinks Juliet is a giant hydrogen fuelled fusion reactor?

Ah, well, there is a difference between a comparison and an outright contradiction.

 

[eclipsenow]

There is also a difference between asking a telephone directory to be a good bed time novel, or a toaster manual to help you build a car, or asking visionary language and ancient Middle-Eastern symbolism to tell you about their cosmology. It is as uninformed as some future anthropologist reading a novel from today and concluding that we believed in Geocentrism because of our use of the word 'sunrise'.

 

[Tiberius]

This came up in the thread about solar theory, but I figured I'd bring it up here because I don't know how many people are reading it five pages in. Does anyone else here reject the idea that the Earth orbits the sun? The Bible is pretty clear that the Earth is fixed and immobile, and it's the sun that moves, and I'm surprised how many Christians are willing to reject the Bible for science.

If you reject that the Earth orbits the sun because of a Biblical claim, how do you explain the evidence in the real world that can only be explained if the Earth orbits the sun?

 

[dysert]

This came up in the thread about solar theory, but I figured I'd bring it up here because I don't know how many people are reading it five pages in. Does anyone else here reject the idea that the Earth orbits the sun? The Bible is pretty clear that the Earth is fixed and immobile, and it's the sun that moves, and I'm surprised how many Christians are willing to reject the Bible for science.

It's not that we're rejecting the Bible for science, but rather that we understand the Bible differently than you do. Afaic, there's no conflict between the Bible and the truth.

 

[WisdomTree]

Everything. Evolution is rejected by creationists because the evidence is not as clear as that for a spherical earth or an earth orbiting the sun. If it was, Genesis would just be considered a metaphor, just like the passages that say that the earth is flat and stationary are.

Saint Augustine of Hippo said that the Book of Genesis should be interpreted as being allegorical rather than literal. This was way before Copernicous and Galileo.