Heaven

[allhart]

But, at the same time when all knowledge is gifted by god and god knows everything before it will happen and everything is part of a greater scheme, how can there be any free will? It's contradictory.

Do you have the choice to love God or not? Evil is done! We make evil and we allow evil. How is that not free will.The fact is, If you want to do something bad you can and you do! Just like I do! Why do you challenge God? Why do you challenge his will? His will to make things right on our behalf or on the behalf of the suffering. For some have ill will. What does that say about you? He give us the place to throw our temper-tantrum in boundary's, but he doesn't allow any spoiled brats into heaven. Another way to look at is. You are at home and someone knocks at your door. You answer, The person at the door says, could I come in. What would you say to the stranger? (Truth) Truth is you would say just like God would say I don't know you. Why would I let you come into My house? Lets ask this question, Would you let a person live with you that didn't love you or to stay for any length of time that wouldn't conform to the ways of the home? You might try not knowing one's heart ,but knows your heart

 

[truthshift]

And yes, I am OK if some of my friends and family end up in hell. It is exactly where they sent themselves.

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[allhart]

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God doesn't want one to go to Hell. That requires his intervention.

 

[angeliz]

I believe that we will know our family and friends in Heaven BUT I dont believe that we will remember those of whom we knew who did not make it. Only God will know. But I do believe it is our obligation to God to do what we can to lead our loved ones to Christ before its too late. I dont think we can call it LOVE if we dont care enough to care about their eternity which WE believe exist (Heaven or Hell). For those who choose to turn their backs to God even when we try to lead them, then we have done our part and they have made their choice and all we can do is keep praying for them. I had a freind who was 41 who recently died. But before he finally passed away, he died at the hosptial. He had been gone a number of minutes and when he came too, he told his dad that he had seen his grandparents in Heaven. They were on a porch swing and well. If you believe (which I do) then I believe that God gives people a glimpse of Heaven and lets them return to share their story as a way to help others open their minds and believe. This friend of mine that died was a outstanding Christian. In saying that I mean, he misson was always to win others to God without coming across as pushing Jesus down somones throat. He was just amazing. So therefore to hear him say he seen his grandparents, was very touching and heartfelt and hopeful to those of us who knew him.