• Starting today August 7th, 2024, in order to post in the Married Couples, Courting Couples, or Singles forums, you will not be allowed to post if you have your Marital status designated as private. Announcements will be made in the respective forums as well but please note that if yours is currently listed as Private, you will need to submit a ticket in the Support Area to have yours changed.

Health and Holiness

GospelS

A Daughter of Zion Seeking Her Father in Heaven!
Site Supporter
Aug 1, 2017
2,973
3,015
36
She is The Land!
✟574,535.00
Country
United States
Gender
Female
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Single
Does physical health influence spiritual well-being? Explain how it does or does not. Can you share some bible verses about keeping good health?

How do you balance nurturing both physical health and spiritual well-being? What do you do to take care of your body vs. spirit? What are the effects?

Include the amount of time you spend on each task. Ex: Fasting, fellowship, exercise, healthy eating, community service, reading, meditation, sleep, hobbies, etc.

Although both body and spirit are important, God desires us to set our minds on the spiritual things and seek first His kingdom and His righteousness.
 
Last edited:

.Mikha'el.

7x13=28
Christian Forums Staff
Supervisor
Site Supporter
May 22, 2004
33,984
6,733
40
British Columbia
✟1,228,147.00
Country
Canada
Gender
Male
Faith
Messianic
Marital Status
Single
I'm not sure it's ever really discussed. Even the oft-quoted 1 Cor. 6 passage is about being sexually responsible, and not about physical health more broadly, as many well-meaning Christians want to twist it.
 
Upvote 0

timewerx

the village i--o--t--
Aug 31, 2012
16,584
6,312
✟364,243.00
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian Seeker
Marital Status
Single
I don't think there are verses explicitly saying to make an effort to stay healthy.

However, following the teachings of Christ alone will keep you in good health unless you have congenital health disorders or other disorders that prevents you from exercising nor eating normally.

Jesus taught to deny ourselves which definitely means not indulging on food, alcohol, etc. Jesus fasted more often than His disciples (excluding the 40 day fast). Fasting is scientifically proven to bring enormous health and healing properties.

Though Jesus did not teach about exercise, He climbed a high mountain regularly to pray.. I used to climb 10,000 ft worth of elevation gained every week at a fast pace in a fasted state and it gave me the physique of a professional athlete.

Jesus also taught us to "carry our cross". Which means enduring trials, hardships, and difficulties, instead of avoiding them. Back, it often involved physical hardships as well. Jesus literally carried a heavy cross up a mountain, the disciples walked very long distances. There are still parts of the world where being Christian still meant walking long distances just getting to church or incarcerated in a labor camp.

Being "fat" is generally not seen as a positive trait in the Bible. Unless due to a congenital health disorder or even mental/psychological disorder.
 
  • Winner
Reactions: DragonFox91
Upvote 0

bèlla

❤️
Site Supporter
Jan 16, 2019
21,822
18,624
USA
✟1,048,675.00
Country
United States
Gender
Female
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
In Relationship
Passages on gluttony. Temperance is the principle that counteracts excessive behavior.

Moderation; particularly, habitual moderation in regard to the indulgence of the natural appetites and passions; restrained or moderate indulgence; as temperance in eating and drinking; temperance in the indulgence of joy or mirth. temperance in eating and drinking is opposed to gluttony and drunkenness, and in other indulgences, to excess.

When we contemplate our temple from the Lord's perspective we know we belong to Him. He's entrusted our soul and spirit within this structure and we're responsible for its upkeep. The way we care for ourselves is a reflection of our ownership and the honor we bestow through our attentiveness.

Have you ever seen someone with a car they loved? They'll brave the heat to get it washed and vacuum the nooks and crannies to make sure its spotless. They get checkups and adjustments to keep it running well and give it the gas it requires. If they're willing to do that for a car or another possession they hold dear. How much more we would do on the Lord's behalf?

The temple is an instrument for worship and service and our spiritual calling card. The first thing someone encounters before they know our name is how we look. What are we communicating? What are we saying about our faith, discipline or self-respect? What would they assume without our input?


I'm reminded of a reel I saw the other day on my feed. I don't know her personally but a few things are clear from viewing the clip. The first is obvious. She's crazy about pink and you see it everywhere. But notice the space. It's very clean and orderly. As you watch her tidying observe her body language. She isn't grumbling or bemoaning the task. She's created a ritual and celebrates with candles. How many do the same?

This is a woman who loves her home and it's evident. She poured herself in that space on behalf of her family. Watching her excitement about the little things for herself or loved ones is precious. The attention she's shown to their comfort is admirable.

That's the way we respond when there's genuine regard. You're not keeping score or looking for loopholes. You do your best because they're deserving and want to please them. The Lord doesn't have to tell us to value our health. We should mimic her example and do it without request. Consider the ways He can use you because you're disciplined.

A year ago I shared my experiences with someone who was struggling to lose her belly fat. I encouraged her to try ancient grains and suggested some foods she should avoid during that period and shared a book for further insight. She took my advice but I wasn't aware. It was many months before I returned.

Now others are following suit and they created a thread where updates are shared with encouraging words. They're all middle age and beyond menopause. Women don't typically lose weight in that season. They usually gain. It took one person who said you can who shared her story and God's involvement. They weren't discussing Him before that occurred but the acknowledgment brought them out of the shadows and He's a topic too.

The Lord can use anything if we avail ourselves to Him. Including our looks, diet, fitness and more. There's someone who needs to know what we do and see our example. I have a group of women embracing their loveliness when the world says otherwise. And that's the gospel.

~bella
 
  • Like
Reactions: GospelS
Upvote 0

timewerx

the village i--o--t--
Aug 31, 2012
16,584
6,312
✟364,243.00
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian Seeker
Marital Status
Single
The Lord doesn't have to tell us to value our health. We should mimic her example and do it without request. Consider the ways He can use you because you're disciplined.

Probably because the Lord told us not to love our lives nor save our lives and then to tell us to stay in good health and in good shape will make Him sound ridiculous!^_^

Ironically, you'll stay in good health anyway if you live like the Lord. Long before His Crucifixion, our Lord's had an austere lifestyle with lots of exercise and seemingly low level of stress.

Though the Lord is working for the Father, He loved His work and "if you found a job that you truly love, you'll never work a day in your life from now on" (a quote I read from some poster but I think is telling the truth).

Low stress, ascetic lifestyle (of non-indulgence or self-denail), praying in secret, lots of exercise, and frequent fasting kept Him in good health.

Many Christians don't get it and just because Jesus "ate with sinners", they think it's okay to eat as a glutton or just because Jesus drank wine, it's okay to do "social drinking" every weekend or every night. The truth, is they're only looking for any possible excuse or like you said, "loopholes" just to satisfy their worldly cravings.

They don't realize you can eat with sinners without eating like a glutton. You don't have to completely isolate yourself from sinners in order to live an ascetic lifestyle. You still be an ascetic while living among sinners, eating with them, etc.
 
Upvote 0

eleos1954

God is Love
Site Supporter
Nov 14, 2017
11,009
6,434
Utah
✟851,013.00
Country
United States
Gender
Female
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Single
Politics
US-Others
Can you share some bible verses about keeping good health?

Originally God created all His creatures to be vegetarians ... later He gave permission to eat animals (but also gave guidelines of doing so) clean verses unclean (Leviticus 11)

Appears Daniel and some others were vegetarians ...

Daniel 1:12-15 ESV​

“Test your servants for ten days; let us be given vegetables to eat and water to drink. Then let our appearance and the appearance of the youths who eat the king's food be observed by you, and deal with your servants according to what you see.” So he listened to them in this matter, and tested them for ten days. At the end of ten days it was seen that they were better in appearance and fatter in flesh than all the youths who ate the king's food.

1 Timothy 4:7-8 ESV​

Have nothing to do with irreverent, silly myths. Rather train yourself for godliness; for while bodily training is of some value, godliness is of value in every way, as it holds promise for the present life and also for the life to come.

A more healthy diet is of some value.

Really it is just common sense to take care of our bodies in as much we can do so ... is harder these days with mankind using pesticides and other manipulations of our food (hormones and such) and making (processing) many foods that really have very little nutritional value. Read the labels.
 
  • Agree
Reactions: GospelS
Upvote 0

GospelS

A Daughter of Zion Seeking Her Father in Heaven!
Site Supporter
Aug 1, 2017
2,973
3,015
36
She is The Land!
✟574,535.00
Country
United States
Gender
Female
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Single
Our bodies are an inheritance from God. The Whole Scripture from Genesis to Revelation was made in the Image of God. Think about it. The Word of God is The Father.

The Temple of God that Moses, Ezekiel, Isaiah, and other Prophets saw was The Son of Man. Of all creation, She, The Wisdom of God, delighted in the children of man in Proverbs 8.

He knit us together in our mother’s womb, fearfully and wonderfully. The Lord will provide us with the resources we need. Whatever you do, do it for the glory of God. Eat from the tree of life. Keep good health according to your calling in the kingdom.

Our bodies and minds become incorruptible and change at the last trumpet as our spirit abides in Him. He reveals The New Temple in Revelation 21. The Holy City, Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God. :)
 
Upvote 0

bèlla

❤️
Site Supporter
Jan 16, 2019
21,822
18,624
USA
✟1,048,675.00
Country
United States
Gender
Female
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
In Relationship
Probably because the Lord told us not to love our lives nor save our lives and then to tell us to stay in good health and in good shape will make Him sound ridiculous!^_^

I genuinely love my life and have no qualms about my place in the world and never thought along those lines. I always believed I was here for reason and wishing to be elsewhere was futile. Making the most of my time and enjoying the ride was always the goal. It's the only one I have.

Ironically, you'll stay in good health anyway if you live like the Lord. Long before His Crucifixion, our Lord's had an austere lifestyle with lots of exercise and seemingly low level of stress.

I have no desire to go backwards and replicate a time He didn't place me in. Western culture has its issues but that's where I'm planted and it wasn't happenstance. I won't live as a hermit because it doesn't reflect the reality of my condition or culture. When you understand your knitting being otherwise is unthinkable.

That may sound odd to some. But specialness and worthiness were deeply entrenched in children's programming when I was younger. They reinforced the reality of our uniqueness and delighted in the difference and reminded us we were valued. If you hear that constantly you'll believe it.

I owe a lot to Sesame Street and Mister Rogers. That was the seed that beget my belief in possibilities and resilience.

Many Christians don't get it and just because Jesus "ate with sinners", they think it's okay to eat as a glutton or just because Jesus drank wine, it's okay to do "social drinking" every weekend or every night. The truth, is they're only looking for any possible excuse or like you said, "loopholes" just to satisfy their worldly cravings.

That isn't why they do it. That's the excuse they give to believers to keep them off their back. But when you keep company with people who live and think differently than you do you'll encounter a lot of truths. They indulge because they like it and it isn't an escape for most. They're unable to admit that because of their religion and desire for approval.

Make no mistake. When the pandemic hit I stocked up with food and wine and posted a picture. I have no problem with alcohol and live in an area with many bars but they don't appeal to me. But I'm not opposed to going out with a friend or business associate on occasion.

My faith isn't compartmentalized. There's no Sunday bella. I'm me all the time. The other requires too much work.

They don't realize you can eat with sinners without eating like a glutton. You don't have to completely isolate yourself from sinners in order to live an ascetic lifestyle. You still be an ascetic while living among sinners, eating with them, etc.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not knocking asceticism and if the Lord calls you to that path you should follow it. But that will never be my way. It doesn't resonate. Nor am I bothered by people who think and live differently than I do. I learn a lot about myself in their company. I have no interest in revisiting old discourse or having the same conversations a decade later. I need more and tire of the mundane.

~bella
 
Upvote 0

DragonFox91

Well-Known Member
Dec 20, 2020
6,030
3,672
33
Grand Rapids MI
✟269,638.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Single
Politics
US-Republican
Theres verses in Proverbs that there's a link between righteousness & physical health

Not really a verse, but I think a lot of people can turn their nutrition (eating healthy) into an idol. As well as exercise. Worshipping the created & not the Creator. People can turn anything into an idol, & that can include good things like foods our bodies need & exercise that helps move us. Even salts & sweets are good.
So then what happened is the Gnostic belief is the phyisical is bad. They said only the spiritual matters. But the Bible affirms the physical world is good. Your body was created, you're even gonna get a new body someday. And food was given for it. Psalms say the creation declares the Lord's glory - so it can't be bad.
 
Upvote 0

timewerx

the village i--o--t--
Aug 31, 2012
16,584
6,312
✟364,243.00
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian Seeker
Marital Status
Single
I have no desire to go backwards and replicate a time He didn't place me in. Western culture has its issues but that's where I'm planted and it wasn't happenstance. I won't live as a hermit because it doesn't reflect the reality of my condition or culture. When you understand your knitting being otherwise is unthinkable.
I think you misunderstood me because I did not explain what austerity meant to me. You can be austere and still be cutting edge modern at the same time. I personally don't think that austerity means living off the grid nor living in a primal nor primitive state.

But I did experiment on copying Christ's life on a figurative and physical sense to investigate in a scientific sort of way without abandoning modern living. I'm not recommending it but here's what I did.

I did not climb a high mountain to pray but I did an equivalent difficult physical exercise in terms of intensity and energy spent without having to literally climb a high mountain from the base to the top. Eventually combining regular fasting with exercise (equivalent of denying yourself and carrying your cross). Finally, engaging in a dangerous sport (not saving ourselves). And then I also have to maintain low levels of stress so the activities must be enjoyable to me (Jesus did not seem stressed until His final days).

Even my diet is similar, mainly fish and bread, some veggies, dairy, and rice. Otherwise, I did not disconnect myself from the modern world.

The results are astounding. All physical health problems cured without any medical intervention. My weak lower back problem was the last problem to receive cure. Exercise, lifting weights, and diet did not solve it. Somehow, skating or falling from skating unbelievably fixed the problem and I'm not going to recommend getting beat up in a physical activity as a way to fix back problems. There maybe other factors involved but it seems, you'll have to do do the "entire package".

This why I end up saying if you try to live like Jesus did, you'll end up in good health. Actually, in an incredibly good state of health.

That may sound odd to some. But specialness and worthiness were deeply entrenched in children's programming when I was younger. They reinforced the reality of our uniqueness and delighted in the difference and reminded us we were valued. If you hear that constantly you'll believe it.
They still do it in modern CGI and super-hero films.

I think most people still love the concept of uniqueness and originality BUT they'd rather watch OTHER people do it in real life or in fiction. For example most Christians probably love reading about Jesus but makes absolutely no attempt to try to live like Him.

Nobody wants to risk their life and it's the only way to truly be unique and not end up just singing a different tune of the same song.
 
Upvote 0

timewerx

the village i--o--t--
Aug 31, 2012
16,584
6,312
✟364,243.00
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian Seeker
Marital Status
Single
Not really a verse, but I think a lot of people can turn their nutrition (eating healthy) into an idol. As well as exercise. Worshipping the created & not the Creator. People can turn anything into an idol, & that can include good things like foods our bodies need & exercise that helps move us. Even salts & sweets are good.
You're absolutely right here. A balance must be struck. Exercise and eating healthy is good just don't put too much attention towards it and not allow it to distract us from the things that do matter. How much is too much? I think Jesus has the answer.

So then what happened is the Gnostic belief is the phyisical is bad. They said only the spiritual matters. But the Bible affirms the physical world is good. Your body was created, you're even gonna get a new body someday. And food was given for it. Psalms say the creation declares the Lord's glory - so it can't be bad.
Jesus said the flesh amounts to nothing (John 6:63). I think what Jesus meant here are things that are visible and seen by the naked eye. Our bodies that we see. What His direct audience understood.

However, the "unseen" part might amount to something like the DNA for example (and the atoms and molecules). Ironically, the DNA is unbelievably strengthened by denying the body.

By denying the "flesh" and subjecting it to hard physical trials, we "feed" and preserve the DNA. The "food" the disciples didn't know about as Jesus told. Incredible, isn't it?
 
Upvote 0

trophy33

Well-Known Member
Nov 18, 2018
13,176
5,315
European Union
✟218,368.00
Country
Czech Republic
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Single
Does physical health influence spiritual well-being? Explain how it does or does not.
Absolutely. Unhealthy, malnutritioned body leads to anxieties, depressions, hormonal imbalances, mood swings, OCD's, cravings, constant tideness, stress, anger - directly. And these are areas people will call "spiritual".

Also, indirectly, your bad physical state and bad health habits will have a negative mental and physical impact on people around you, for example on your family.

The lack of discipline in one's health can even lead to anger towards God, in some cases ("Why would God take my [150kg morbidly obese with tons of issues] mom or my [smoking, drinking, food junk eating, always stressed] dad.")
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: GospelS
Upvote 0