JimfromOhio said:
That's the dumbeset arguement I have ever heard. Paul was wrong then, but in other places, we are supposed to believe him if it fits into your twisted theology?
Incredible!
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JimfromOhio said:I am not questioning the Bible. Paul as a human being thought Satan was harming him when he does not really know. He was assuming.
When Paul heard what God said in verse 9, "My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness."
Paul responded with an understanding what God is saying so Paul wrote: "Therefore I will boast all the more gladly about my weaknesses, so that Christ's power may rest on me. That is why, for Christ's sake, I delight in weaknesses, in insults, in hardships, in persecutions, in difficulties. For when I am weak, then I am strong.
Some of the sources are from Satan and some are NOT.
TreeOfLife said:That's the dumbeset arguement I have ever heard. Paul was wrong then, but in other places, we are supposed to believe him if it fits into your twisted theology?
Incredible!
TreeOfLife said:That's the dumbeset arguement I have ever heard. Paul was wrong then, but in other places, we are supposed to believe him if it fits into your twisted theology?
Incredible!
JimfromOhio said:Sounds like you are heading to flaming again.
TreeOfLife said:And it sounds to me like you have once again run out of your stupid arguements. Some day you will see me as your brother. Until then, I cannot but proclaim the truth to you.
JimfromOhio said:Let look at each word from Greek's definition
Weaknesses: (From Strong's Greek #769) of strength, weakness, infirmity, of the body, its native weakness and frailty, feebleness of health or sickness, of the soul , want of strength and capacity requisite 1b, to understand a thing 1b, to do things great and glorious 1b, to restrain corrupt desires 1b, to bear trials and troubles
Insults: (From Strong's Greek #5196) insolence
impudence, pride, haughtiness, a wrong springing from insolence, an injury, affront, insult, mental injury and wantonness of its infliction being prominent, injury inflicted by the violence of a tempest
Hardships: (From Strong's Greek #318) necessity, imposed either by the circumstances, or by law of duty regarding to one's advantage, custom, argument, calamity, distress, straits
Persecutions: (From Strong's Greek #1375) persecution
Difficulties: (From Strong's Greek #4730) narrowness of place, a narrow place, metaph. dire calamity, extreme affliction.
Reading Paul's Letters and aware of his afflictions that we can learn much truth from such trials, some of it depressing and some altogether elevating and wonderful. Spiritual maturity requires great care and a true knowledge of ourselves to distinguish a spiritual burden from irritation around us but at the same time, we cannot close our minds to everything that is happening around us. "Be very careful, then, how you live--not as unwise but as wise, making the most of every opportunity, because the days are evil." (Ephesians 5:15-16) The Scriptures and Christian history have taught us ways to have spiritual endurance with the encouragement from the Holy Spirit. The question is this: Are we learning the circumstances?
Romans 5:1-5 (NIV) Therefore, since we have been justified through faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have gained access by faith into this grace in which we now stand. And we rejoice in the hope of the glory of God. Not only so, but we also rejoice in our sufferings, because we know that suffering produces perseverance; perseverance, character; and character, hope. And hope does not disappoint us, because God has poured out his love into our hearts by the Holy Spirit, whom he has given us.
JimfromOhio said:Sounds like when we get into heaven, you will walk up to me saying "Brother, I told you so" with a prideful attitude?
TreeOfLife said:No, let us look at your treatment of me. One who has reached out and reached out. But no, you have never once grasped my hand. Not once. How about we look at you?
TreeOfLife said:See? You know nothing.
JimfromOhio said:Depends on what I know and what you know. But your choices of words are interesting to see.
Owkay said:Though you be deaf, you should learn to listen. If you cannot hear your own brother's cry to save you, surely you can see his outstretched hand?
Citizen of the Kingdom said:That could definately go both ways.
Owkay said:No it can't. We aren't talking about your last day at work, we aren't talking about the hell you feel like you endured from your last boyfriend. We are talking about the perfection of truth.
If you cannot see the difference now, DIVE in until you see it!!!!!!!!!
God will wait. That's His nature.
Citizen of the Kingdom said:That could definately go both ways.
Owkay said:No it can't. We aren't talking about your last day at work, we aren't talking about the hell you feel like you endured from your last boyfriend. We are talking about the perfection of truth.
If you cannot see the difference now, DIVE in until you see it!!!!!!!!!
God will wait. That's His nature.
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