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Pray for me, guys. I am so desperate - it's been so long since I've felt that face-to-face intimacy with Jesus. And I want the fullness of His love. I know our flesh cannot handle it, and neither can our minds.

Sometimes, though, I don't care. Destroy this body, put my mind in a rubber room. Just let me be with Him!!
 
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My friends who long for Jesus...I offer these words from He And I praying that they will comfort you.

PP 371

Jesus speaks:

"A bride has done a long piece of work for her bridegroom, and it required the utmost patience and perseverance, he expressed all his surprise and admiration for the many weary hours she spent on it. 'But I loved you so much in every moment of fatigue," she replies, 'that my joy outweighed all my suffering'.

isn't that the way you feel near your empty hearth?(...) My little sister/brother companion in work? The embrace of the kiss of peace."

My note* I pray that you won't be discouraged when you don't feel His presence but through His grace you would "offer up" your suffering and longing for intimacy with Christ as the bride who is working on the "long piece of work."

May Yeshua assist His little brides, both the guys and gals. :groupray:
 
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stormdancer,
I hope your prayers will soon be answered. He hears your heart's cry...He is not ignoring you, that's for sure. Your longing is so precious to Him. You know that. :)

Ames, what you shared from He And I reminded me of something I read in Mechtilde's book the other night. I will see if I can find it and post it later.
 
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Here it is~

How Our Lord Was Seen Looking Like A Worker

Our Lord showed me an allegory that he realized in me and still does. I saw a poor man get up from the ground. He was clothed in poor linen cloth like a worker. In his hands he had a carrying frame. On it lay a burden similar to the earth. I said, "My good man, what are you carrying?"

"I am carrying, " he said, "your sufferings. Turn your will toward suffering; lift, and carry."
And the person said: "Lord, I am so poor that I do not have anything."
Our Lord said: "This is what I taught my disciples when I said; 'Blessed are the poor in spirit.' This is the case when a person can do nothing but would like to - that is spiritual poverty."

The person: "Lord, if it is you, turn your face toward me so that I can recognize you."
And our Lord said: "Recognize me within."
The soul: "Lord, if I were to see you in the midst of thousands, I would easily recognize you." My heart turned within me into a guard and I did not dare dispute with him that it was he. So I said: "Dear Lord, this burden is too heavy."
And our Lord said: "I shall put it so close to me that you can carry it quite well. Follow me and see how I stood on the cross in the sight of my heavenly Father, and remain like that."
She said: "Lord, give me your blessing for it."

"I bless you without ceasing. There will be good help for your sufferings."
"Lord, help in this all those who willingly suffer torment for love of you."

The Flowing Light Of The Godhead, St. Mechtilde of Magdeburg pg. 285
 
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Here it is~

How Our Lord Was Seen Looking Like A Worker

Our Lord showed me an allegory that he realized in me and still does. I saw a poor man get up from the ground. He was clothed in poor linen cloth like a worker. In his hands he had a carrying frame. On it lay a burden similar to the earth. I said, "My good man, what are you carrying?"

"I am carrying, " he said, "your sufferings. Turn your will toward suffering; lift, and carry."
And the person said: "Lord, I am so poor that I do not have anything."
Our Lord said: "This is what I taught my disciples when I said; 'Blessed are the poor in spirit.' This is the case when a person can do nothing but would like to - that is spiritual poverty."

The person: "Lord, if it is you, turn your face toward me so that I can recognize you."
And our Lord said: "Recognize me within."
The soul: "Lord, if I were to see you in the midst of thousands, I would easily recognize you." My heart turned within me into a guard and I did not dare dispute with him that it was he. So I said: "Dear Lord, this burden is too heavy."
And our Lord said: "I shall put it so close to me that you can carry it quite well. Follow me and see how I stood on the cross in the sight of my heavenly Father, and remain like that."
She said: "Lord, give me your blessing for it."

"I bless you without ceasing. There will be good help for your sufferings."
"Lord, help in this all those who willingly suffer torment for love of you."

The Flowing Light Of The Godhead, St. Mechtilde of Magdeburg pg. 285
Oh ames....this is so very very beautiful, the entire quote. Thanks so much!
 
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Pray for me, guys. I am so desperate - it's been so long since I've felt that face-to-face intimacy with Jesus. And I want the fullness of His love. I know our flesh cannot handle it, and neither can our minds.

Sometimes, though, I don't care. Destroy this body, put my mind in a rubber room. Just let me be with Him!!


ohh I feel this way so often!! especially now when I hardly have time for anything but work! but Jesus steadily tells me I can do nothing without Him! I long for His love and I feel He longs for mine...how I adore and praise You my beautiful Lord!
 
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Stormdancer you have expressed the longing of my heart also and as I read your words I thought of the Song of Songs that desire that cry's out for a touch of his lips.

Sgs 1:2 Let him kiss me with the kisses of his mouth: for thy love [is] better than wine.

Sgs 1:3 Because of the savour of thy good ointments thy name [is as] ointment poured forth, therefore do the virgins love thee.

That the oil of His name not be consumed by me but that it would be poured out as an offering that others may be attracted by the fragrance of His name.

Sgs 1:4 Draw me, we will run after thee: the king hath brought me into his chambers: we will be glad and rejoice in thee, we will remember thy love more than wine: the upright love thee.
His love is there for us to draw upon may we increase our longing and may He fill us to overflowing.

gs 1:7 ¶ Tell me, O thou whom my soul loveth, where thou feedest, where thou makest [thy flock] to rest at noon: for why should I be as one that turneth aside by the flocks of thy companions?

Where oh Lord are you where are you that I may feed also upon you that I may also rest.

And then upon my bed I cried out to my beloved:

Sgs 3:1 ¶ By night on my bed I sought him whom my soul loveth: I sought him, but I found him not.

Sgs 3:2 I will rise now, and go about the city in the streets, and in the broad ways I will seek him whom my soul loveth: I sought him, but I found him not.

Sgs 3:3 The watchmen that go about the city found me: [to whom I said], Saw ye him whom my soul loveth?

Sgs 3:4 [It was] but a little that I passed from them, but I found him whom my soul loveth: I held him, and would not let him go, until I had brought him into my mother's house, and into the chamber of her that conceived me.

May these words comfort you for if we seek him we shall surely find him and find rest.

Your brother in Christ,
Jeffrey
 
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Thank you, all. I've felt His presence so strongly before. Now, it's like He's backed off, though I know that isn't true. I've not studied as I should, not prayed as I should. Lately, my life has been taken over by the internship I'm in, and though I try, I can't seem to shake this numbness.

This has happened a couple of times before, and the result has been a kind of brokenness that can only be described as soul-shattering. In that, though, I've found Jesus waiting to heal me. So I am longing for and asking for that brokenness. I also long for those first months, when every time I prayed, I could feel His presence; every time I worshipped, I could feel His touch in my heart. My faith needed that. I recognize that I don't need such shows now - my faith is in Him, not in His manifestations.

But I do miss the manifestations!! Even in the sweet, peaceful intimacy of marriage, sometimes you miss the excitement of newlyweds.
 
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Everyone this is an excerpt from the book, "Little Flowers of Saint Francis."

a little lengthy but I think this will give you insight as to why Jesus "takes away" the feeling of His presence and how He rewards our continuing to seek Him.

Divine love, that, being unable to endure such sweetness sitting still, he would rise up and, as one drunken with the spirit, would run hither and thither, now through the garden, now through the wood, and now through the church, even as the flame and impetus of the Spirit drove him. Thereafter, in process of time, the Divine grace caused this angelic man to increase continually from virtue to virtue, and in celestial gifts and Divine ecstasies and raptures; insomuch so that anon his mind was uplifted to the splendours of the Cherubim, anon to the ardours of the Seraphim, anon to the joys of the Blessed, anon to amorous and immoderate embracings of Christ, not only with inward spiritual delights, but also with manifest external indications and corporal pleasure. And, once in particular, was his heart inflamed beyond measure by the fire of Divine love; and this fire lasted in him for three full years; during which period he received marvellous consolations and visitations Divine, and ofttimes was he rapt in God; and, in a word, during the said period, he seemed all on fire and burning with the love of Christ; and this was on the holy mountain of Alvernia. But, because God hath singular care for His children, giving them, at divers times, now consolation now tribulation, now prosperity and now adversity, as He seeth that their need is, to preserve them in humility or to enkindle in them a greater desire for heavenly things; it pleased the Divine goodness, after those three years, to withdraw from the said Friar John this light and fire of Divine love, and to deprive him of every spiritual consolation. Wherefore Friar John, being left without light and without love of God, was wholly disconsolate and afflicted and sorrowful; for the which cause, being in such anguish, he went through the wood, running hither and thither,
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calling with voice and tears and sighs the beloved Spouse of his soul, who had hidden Himself and departed from him, and without whose presence his soul found no quiet nor repose; but in no place nor in any manner might he find again his sweet Jesus, or renew that sweet spiritual consolation of the love of Christ, which he had enjoyed aforetime. And this tribulation lasted for many days, in the which he persevered in continual weeping and sighing, ever beseeching God that of His pity He would give back to him the well-beloved Spouse of his soul. At last, when it pleased God to have sufficiently proved his patience and enkindled his desire, upon a day, while Friar John went through the aforesaid wood, thus afflicted and troubled, he sat him down for weariness and leaned against a beech-tree and there abode, with his face all bathed with tears, gazing toward heaven; and lo! on a sudden Jesus Christ appeared before him in the pathway whereby Friar John had come; but He spake no word. Then, Friar John, beholding Him and knowing full well that it was Christ, forthwith cast himself down at His feet, and with infinite weeping very humbly besought Him and said: "Help me, O my Lord, for without Thee, my sweetest Saviour, I abide in darkness and in woe; without Thee, most gentle Lamb, I am full of anguish and pain and terror; without Thee, Son of God, most high, I am fulfilled with confusion and shame; without Thee I am despoiled of every good and am blinded; for Thou art Jesus Christ, the true light of souls; without Thee I am lost and damned, because Thou art the life of souls, the life of lives; without Thee I am barren and dry, because Thou art the fountain of every gift and of every grace; without Thee I am altogether disconsolate, because Thou art Jesus our redemption, love and
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desire, the bread which giveth strength, and the wine which maketh glad the hearts of the angels and the hearts of all the saints; enlighten me, Master most gracious, and Shepherd most pitiful, for I am Thy little sheep, albeit all unworthy". But because the desire of holy men, when God delays to hear, enkindles them to greater love and merit, Christ the blessed departed without giving ear unto his prayer and without answering him a word, and gat Him thence by the aforesaid pathway. Then Friar John rose up and ran after Him, and anew cast himself at His feet, and, with holy importunity, laid hold upon Him and held Him, and with most devout tears besought Him, saying: "O most sweet Jesus Christ, have mercy upon me in my affliction; hear me out of the abundance of Thy mercy and for the truth of Thy salvation, and give me back again the joy of Thy countenance and of Thy pitiful regard, for the whole earth is full of Thy mercy". And, yet again, Christ departed and spake no word unto him, nor gave him any consolation; and He did even as doth the mother to her child, when she makes him desire the breast and follow after her weeping, to the end that he may thereafter take it the more eagerly. Wherefore Friar John, with yet greater fervour and desire, followed Christ, and, when he had overtaken Him, Christ the blessed turned toward him and looked upon him with glad and gracious countenance; and, opening His most holy and most merciful arms, embraced him very tenderly; and as He opened His arms, Friar John beheld resplendent rays of light issue from the most holy bosom of the Saviour, which illuminated all the wood, and him also, both in soul and body. Then Friar John kneeled down at the feet of Christ, and the Blessed Jesus, even as He had done to the
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[SIZE=-2][paragraph continues][/SIZE] Magdalene, graciously offered him His foot to kiss; and Friar John, holding it with extreme reverence, bathed it with so many tears that, of a truth, he seemed another Magdalene; and he said, devoutly: "I pray Thee, my Lord, that Thou look not on my sins, but, by the shedding of Thy most holy blood, revivify my soul in the grace of Thy love; for Thou hast commanded us to love Thee with all our heart and with all our soul; and this commandment may no man fulfil without Thy aid. Aid me, then, most loving Son of God, that I may love Thee with all my heart and with all my strength." And while Friar John thus spoke, lying at the feet of Christ, his prayer was answered, and he received from Him once again the first grace, to wit the fire of Divine love, and felt himself wholly renewed and comforted; and, knowing that the gift of Divine grace had returned to him, he began to thank the Blessed Christ and to devoutly kiss His feet. And, thereafter, having risen up to look upon the face of Christ, Jesus Christ held out His most holy hands and offered them to him to kiss; and, when Friar John had kissed them, he drew nigh and leaned upon the breast of Jesus and embraced and kissed Him; and Christ, in like manner, embraced and kissed him. And in this embracing and kissing Friar John perceived so Divine a fragrance that, if all the odoriferous graces and all the fragrant things of the world had been gathered together, the odour thereof would have seemed a stench in comparison with that fragrance; and therein Friar John was rapt and consoled and illuminated; and that fragrance endured within his soul for many months. And from thenceforward, out of his mouth, which had drunk of the fountain of Divine wisdom in the sacred breast of the Saviour, there came marvellous and celestial words,
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which changed men's hearts and brought forth much fruit in the souls of them who gave ear unto him; and in that woodland pathway where stood the blessed feet of Christ, and for some distance round about, Friar John, for a long time thereafter, smelled that fragrance and saw that splendour, whenever he went thither."
 
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Everyone this is an excerpt from the book, "Little Flowers of Saint Francis."

a little lengthy but I think this will give you insight as to why Jesus "takes away" the feeling of His presence and how He rewards our continuing to seek Him.

Divine love, that, being unable to endure such sweetness sitting still, he would rise up and, as one drunken with the spirit, would run hither and thither, now through the garden, now through the wood, and now through the church, even as the flame and impetus of the Spirit drove him. Thereafter, in process of time, the Divine grace caused this angelic man to increase continually from virtue to virtue, and in celestial gifts and Divine ecstasies and raptures; insomuch so that anon his mind was uplifted to the splendours of the Cherubim, anon to the ardours of the Seraphim, anon to the joys of the Blessed, anon to amorous and immoderate embracings of Christ, not only with inward spiritual delights, but also with manifest external indications and corporal pleasure. And, once in particular, was his heart inflamed beyond measure by the fire of Divine love; and this fire lasted in him for three full years; during which period he received marvellous consolations and visitations Divine, and ofttimes was he rapt in God; and, in a word, during the said period, he seemed all on fire and burning with the love of Christ; and this was on the holy mountain of Alvernia. But, because God hath singular care for His children, giving them, at divers times, now consolation now tribulation, now prosperity and now adversity, as He seeth that their need is, to preserve them in humility or to enkindle in them a greater desire for heavenly things; it pleased the Divine goodness, after those three years, to withdraw from the said Friar John this light and fire of Divine love, and to deprive him of every spiritual consolation. Wherefore Friar John, being left without light and without love of God, was wholly disconsolate and afflicted and sorrowful; for the which cause, being in such anguish, he went through the wood, running hither and thither,
p. 129
calling with voice and tears and sighs the beloved Spouse of his soul, who had hidden Himself and departed from him, and without whose presence his soul found no quiet nor repose; but in no place nor in any manner might he find again his sweet Jesus, or renew that sweet spiritual consolation of the love of Christ, which he had enjoyed aforetime. And this tribulation lasted for many days, in the which he persevered in continual weeping and sighing, ever beseeching God that of His pity He would give back to him the well-beloved Spouse of his soul. At last, when it pleased God to have sufficiently proved his patience and enkindled his desire, upon a day, while Friar John went through the aforesaid wood, thus afflicted and troubled, he sat him down for weariness and leaned against a beech-tree and there abode, with his face all bathed with tears, gazing toward heaven; and lo! on a sudden Jesus Christ appeared before him in the pathway whereby Friar John had come; but He spake no word. Then, Friar John, beholding Him and knowing full well that it was Christ, forthwith cast himself down at His feet, and with infinite weeping very humbly besought Him and said: "Help me, O my Lord, for without Thee, my sweetest Saviour, I abide in darkness and in woe; without Thee, most gentle Lamb, I am full of anguish and pain and terror; without Thee, Son of God, most high, I am fulfilled with confusion and shame; without Thee I am despoiled of every good and am blinded; for Thou art Jesus Christ, the true light of souls; without Thee I am lost and damned, because Thou art the life of souls, the life of lives; without Thee I am barren and dry, because Thou art the fountain of every gift and of every grace; without Thee I am altogether disconsolate, because Thou art Jesus our redemption, love and
p. 130
desire, the bread which giveth strength, and the wine which maketh glad the hearts of the angels and the hearts of all the saints; enlighten me, Master most gracious, and Shepherd most pitiful, for I am Thy little sheep, albeit all unworthy". But because the desire of holy men, when God delays to hear, enkindles them to greater love and merit, Christ the blessed departed without giving ear unto his prayer and without answering him a word, and gat Him thence by the aforesaid pathway. Then Friar John rose up and ran after Him, and anew cast himself at His feet, and, with holy importunity, laid hold upon Him and held Him, and with most devout tears besought Him, saying: "O most sweet Jesus Christ, have mercy upon me in my affliction; hear me out of the abundance of Thy mercy and for the truth of Thy salvation, and give me back again the joy of Thy countenance and of Thy pitiful regard, for the whole earth is full of Thy mercy". And, yet again, Christ departed and spake no word unto him, nor gave him any consolation; and He did even as doth the mother to her child, when she makes him desire the breast and follow after her weeping, to the end that he may thereafter take it the more eagerly. Wherefore Friar John, with yet greater fervour and desire, followed Christ, and, when he had overtaken Him, Christ the blessed turned toward him and looked upon him with glad and gracious countenance; and, opening His most holy and most merciful arms, embraced him very tenderly; and as He opened His arms, Friar John beheld resplendent rays of light issue from the most holy bosom of the Saviour, which illuminated all the wood, and him also, both in soul and body. Then Friar John kneeled down at the feet of Christ, and the Blessed Jesus, even as He had done to the
p. 131
[SIZE=-2][paragraph continues][/SIZE] Magdalene, graciously offered him His foot to kiss; and Friar John, holding it with extreme reverence, bathed it with so many tears that, of a truth, he seemed another Magdalene; and he said, devoutly: "I pray Thee, my Lord, that Thou look not on my sins, but, by the shedding of Thy most holy blood, revivify my soul in the grace of Thy love; for Thou hast commanded us to love Thee with all our heart and with all our soul; and this commandment may no man fulfil without Thy aid. Aid me, then, most loving Son of God, that I may love Thee with all my heart and with all my strength." And while Friar John thus spoke, lying at the feet of Christ, his prayer was answered, and he received from Him once again the first grace, to wit the fire of Divine love, and felt himself wholly renewed and comforted; and, knowing that the gift of Divine grace had returned to him, he began to thank the Blessed Christ and to devoutly kiss His feet. And, thereafter, having risen up to look upon the face of Christ, Jesus Christ held out His most holy hands and offered them to him to kiss; and, when Friar John had kissed them, he drew nigh and leaned upon the breast of Jesus and embraced and kissed Him; and Christ, in like manner, embraced and kissed him. And in this embracing and kissing Friar John perceived so Divine a fragrance that, if all the odoriferous graces and all the fragrant things of the world had been gathered together, the odour thereof would have seemed a stench in comparison with that fragrance; and therein Friar John was rapt and consoled and illuminated; and that fragrance endured within his soul for many months. And from thenceforward, out of his mouth, which had drunk of the fountain of Divine wisdom in the sacred breast of the Saviour, there came marvellous and celestial words,
p. 132
which changed men's hearts and brought forth much fruit in the souls of them who gave ear unto him; and in that woodland pathway where stood the blessed feet of Christ, and for some distance round about, Friar John, for a long time thereafter, smelled that fragrance and saw that splendour, whenever he went thither."
Me reading this is like waving a steak under the nose of a starving woman. It only increases my hunger. Very frustrating, but I wouldn't trade it for anything worldly. :D
 
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There is a time that the mere touch of His love is so overwhelming that all I can do is tremble and weep, it becomes so powerful that I have to be the one to back away. He never backs away, when I am in the presence of Yehshua I realize what a dispicable man I truly am and without His mercy and grace I am undone. How I long for the experience even if but for a moment, his love is so strong that I just want to be able to share it with others, but I have no words that can even come close to discribe what I have felt. It is amazing that we can come into such a intimacy with our blessed Bridegroom so that we can taste even just a morsel of what it shall be like when we are with Him at the marriage supper and beyond.
Praises to you my love, my Lord, my King, we adore you Jesus.
one man set free,
Jeffrey

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Thanks for hangin' out here. I love what you all have shared. It's very precious. I appreciate your honesty...

What beautiful words from Jesus...He and I pp 326

"Look at Me often. When one is in love, what sweetness there is in a look! As for Me, I keep you always before My face. Tell Me that you long to give Me the same love-token. Oh, I realize you're carried away by a hundred and one things in life. but make it your first concern to be with Me. As though your roots, plunged into Me would give the flowers and fruits of your actions a fragrance that would rise to your Christ!"

that's so beautiful :)

Thank you, all. I've felt His presence so strongly before. Now, it's like He's backed off, though I know that isn't true. I've not studied as I should, not prayed as I should. Lately, my life has been taken over by the internship I'm in, and though I try, I can't seem to shake this numbness.

This has happened a couple of times before, and the result has been a kind of brokenness that can only be described as soul-shattering. In that, though, I've found Jesus waiting to heal me. So I am longing for and asking for that brokenness. I also long for those first months, when every time I prayed, I could feel His presence; every time I worshipped, I could feel His touch in my heart. My faith needed that. I recognize that I don't need such shows now - my faith is in Him, not in His manifestations.

But I do miss the manifestations!! Even in the sweet, peaceful intimacy of marriage, sometimes you miss the excitement of newlyweds.

here's how I see it :) God sometimes removes from us the feeling of His presence.. but He is still with us. And in this time, we can learn how to love Him completely disinterestedly, selflessly, because we are loving Him by choice alone.. and that's how we grow. We begin to love God more for His own sake, less for how He makes us feel, during these 'dark nights'. Just as our faith grows when it's difficult to believe, so does our love grow. But that being said I know how you feel, and it's very painful. :hug: Sooner or later, when it's God's will, it would end. Remember He loves you the same as always, and that is an infinite love that we wouldn't be able to experience on this earth at all, because its' too much for us.

"August 16, 1937. After Holy Communion, I saw the Lord Jesus in all His majesty, and He said to me, My daughter, during the weeks when you neither saw Me nor felt My presence, I was more profoundly united to you than at time when you experienced ecstasy. And the faithfulness and fragrance of your prayer have reached me."
(Jesus to St Faustina)
 
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I wanted to share something with you all :)

for the past few days I've been going through some spiritual trials, and feeling far from God, and finding it difficult to trust Him.

Last night I went to a Christian music concert with some friends. It was a praise and worship event.. I didn't really feel like going at the time, even though I was really excited about it before; because I didn't see how I could worship God in such distraction. I felt very far from Him.

And during the concert, I got this thought, that I should just praise God anyways. So I began to sing to Him and pray despite everything I was feeling. And it was so freeing, in a way! Through praising God, all my doubts/anxiety went away, and in the end I felt His love again.

I just wanted to share that if you're going through a difficult time... don't run away from Him, but praise Him regardless, cry if you have to, but keep on trusting Him despite everything. God is bigger than anything :) bigger than all our sins, all our weaknesses, sufferings, etc.

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Beloved family! :hug: love you all!

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