Have any of the creationists here done the following?

[Hespera]

Where?

If (since) it has been determined by the bible that the ratio of diameter to circumference is 1:3 then that is what it is.

if the bible suggests that the earths path was in no way altered by any meteor, then it hasnt been. "case closed"

 

[LifeToTheFullest!]

no that is taken out of context

Eh, what's time to God anyways? He exists outside of time, zeptosecond or 13.7 billions years... it's all the same to God.

 

[keith99]

This is false. Indeed earth has been hit in the past and its rotation altered.

Actually teh rotation of teh Earth is slowing at a rate of about 0.005 seconds per year. Small but measurable and happening as we type.

 

[loveiseverywhere]

My bridge species terminology is meant to reflect the absence of anything becoming something else. Not as in caterpillar to butterfly, but as in a turtle turning into a frog or fish into a snake; let alone from monkey, fish or bird into man.

Apparently you don't know about whale evolution:

The cetaceans (whales, dolphins and porpoises) are descendants of land-living mammals. Their terrestrial origins are specifically indicated by:

• Their need to breathe air from the surface;
• The bones of their fins, which resemble the jointed hands of land mammals; and
• The vertical movement of their spines, characteristic more of a running mammal than of the horizontal movement of fish.

The question of how land animals evolved into ocean-going leviathans had been a mystery for a long time, owing to gaps in the fossil record. However, recent discoveries in Pakistan have managed to solve many of these mysteries, and it is now possible to see several stages in the transition of the cetaceans from land to sea.

 

[Hespera]

Actually teh rotation of teh Earth is slowing at a rate of about 0.005 seconds per year. Small but measurable and happening as we type.

Sorry, cant be. Bible says its fixed and immovable so it is. its like Pi=3.0 that way.

 

[LifeToTheFullest!]

Apparently you don't know about whale evolution:


The cetaceans (whales, dolphins and porpoises) are descendants of land-living mammals. Their terrestrial origins are specifically indicated by:

• Their need to breathe air from the surface;
• The bones of their fins, which resemble the jointed hands of land mammals; and
• The vertical movement of their spines, characteristic more of a running mammal than of the horizontal movement of fish.

The question of how land animals evolved into ocean-going leviathans had been a mystery for a long time, owing to gaps in the fossil record. However, recent discoveries in Pakistan have managed to solve many of these mysteries, and it is now possible to see several stages in the transition of the cetaceans from land to sea.

Yep, the hippo is a living transitional species.

 

[loveiseverywhere]

All are no for me. But I know more than you do on both creation and evolution. (Want to try one?)

So, what is the point of your questions?

First of all, you have no clue as to the extent of my education so the fact that you unabashedly assume you know more than me is a clue to your lack of wisdom.

If you have to ask what the point of my questions are then I'm really not inclined to spoon feed you the answer. Figure it out if you're so smart.

 

[jpcedotal]

I thought the verse states it cannot be moved, not that it is immovable. That's two different things.

Psa 93:1 The LORD reigneth, he is clothed with majesty; the LORD is clothed with strength, wherewith he hath girded himself: the world also is stablished, that it cannot be moved.

Your trying to play word games.

מוט
môṭ

1) to totter, shake, slip
1a) (Qal) to totter, shake, slip
1b) (Niphal) to be shaken, be moved, be overthrown
1c) (Hiphil) to dislodge, let fall, drop
1d) (Hithpael) to be greatly shaken

A primitive root; to waver; by implication to slip, shake, fall: - be carried, cast, be out of course, be fallen in decay, X exceedingly, fall (-ing down), be (re-) moved, be ready shake, slide, slip.

The world will not fall or be moved or be overthrown by Satan because the Lord (Jesus) reigns supreme and will not allow it. There is no comet or meteor or sun burst or little green men coming...and just for the sake of arguement IF one of these things happens, when the dust clears the Lord, the living earth, and man will still be here.

 

[rosenherman]

Yep, the hippo is a living transitional species.

From what to what?

 

[LifeToTheFullest!]

I thought the verse states it cannot be moved, not that it is immovable. That's two different things.

Psa 93:1 The LORD reigneth, he is clothed with majesty; the LORD is clothed with strength, wherewith he hath girded himself: the world also is stablished, that it cannot be moved.

Your trying to play word games.

מוט
môṭ

1) to totter, shake, slip
1a) (Qal) to totter, shake, slip
1b) (Niphal) to be shaken, be moved, be overthrown
1c) (Hiphil) to dislodge, let fall, drop
1d) (Hithpael) to be greatly shaken

A primitive root; to waver; by implication to slip, shake, fall: - be carried, cast, be out of course, be fallen in decay, X exceedingly, fall (-ing down), be (re-) moved, be ready shake, slide, slip.

The world will not fall or be moved or be overthrown by Satan because the Lord (Jesus) reigns supreme and will not allow it. There is no comet or meteor or sun burst or little green men coming...and just for the sake of arguement IF one of these things happens, when the dust clears the Lord, the living earth, and man will still be here.

K, thanks.

 

[jpcedotal]

Eh, what's time to God anyways? He exists outside of time, zeptosecond or 13.7 billions years... it's all the same to God.

but not to man. To further your argument, why did God rest? He is God and requires no rest, so why does the Bible state that He did?

To set up a cycle for man...a seven day cycle that is physically, mentally and spiritually healthy to man. With all of man's knowledge and wisdom, why hasn't the seven day week ever been changed since it goes along so perfectly with the Bible? I mean man has tried to disprove or "scientifically prove" every other act of God, why has this one seemed to have slipped the world's mind?

 

[Hespera]

I thought the verse states it cannot be moved, not that it is immovable. That's two different things.

Psa 93:1 The LORD reigneth, he is clothed with majesty; the LORD is clothed with strength, wherewith he hath girded himself: the world also is stablished, that it cannot be moved.

Your trying to play word games.

מוט
môṭ

1) to totter, shake, slip
1a) (Qal) to totter, shake, slip
1b) (Niphal) to be shaken, be moved, be overthrown
1c) (Hiphil) to dislodge, let fall, drop
1d) (Hithpael) to be greatly shaken

A primitive root; to waver; by implication to slip, shake, fall: - be carried, cast, be out of course, be fallen in decay, X exceedingly, fall (-ing down), be (re-) moved, be ready shake, slide, slip.

The world will not fall or be moved or be overthrown by Satan because the Lord (Jesus) reigns supreme and will not allow it. There is no comet or meteor or sun burst or little green men coming...and just for the sake of arguement IF one of these things happens, when the dust clears the Lord, the living earth, and man will still be here.

Ok; we all know what immovable is. So, the earth moveth not.
It shaketh not from the earthquake: it tremoreth not from ye volcano; the meteor impacteth it not; it spinneth not upon its axis nor does it circle yon firey globe.

Ps "your" is possesive, as in "that is your opinion" . "You're" means you are, as in "you're playing word games".

 

[LifeToTheFullest!]

but not to man. To further your argument, why did God rest? He is God and requires no rest, so why does the Bible state that He did?

To set up a cycle for man...a seven day cycle that is physically, mentally and spiritually healthy to man. With all of man's knowledge and wisdom, why hasn't the seven day week ever been changed since it goes along so perfectly with the Bible? I mean man has tried to disprove or "scientifically prove" every other act of God, why has this one seemed to have slipped the world's mind?

'Cept Sunday is the first day, not the seventh. But I'll let you theists argue about that one.

BTW, most work weeks are five days, not six, at least in the U.S.

 

[Hespera]

From what to what?

you would need a time machine to find out what any species will look like in the future.

The hippo is semi aquatic, possibly its descendants will be entirely aquatic. Nobody could say.

Did you understand what I said earlier regarding a turtle turning into a bird, etc?

 

[jpcedotal]

Ok; we all know what immovable is. So, the earth moveth not.
It shaketh not from the earthquake: it tremoreth not from ye volcano; the meteor impacteth it not; it spinneth not upon its axis nor does it circle yon firey globe.

Ps "your" is possesive, as in "that is your opinion" . "You're" means you are, as in "you're playing word games".

that was intentional....lol...and you are still missing the point....step back and think a second without all that condescending attitude.

 

[jpcedotal]

'Cept Sunday is the first day, not the seventh. But I'll let you theists argue about that one.

BTW, most work weeks are five days, not six, at least in the U.S.

Did I say Sunday? Also, work is more than what one does to just get a paycheck.

 

[LifeToTheFullest!]

BTW, where is Chicxulub crater mentioned in the Bible?

 

[Hespera]

that was intentional....lol...and you are still missing the point....step back and think a second without all that condescending attitude.

Nothing condescending about saying someone is playing word games, i guess.

But ok. Tell me what you feel is the point that I missed?

 

[jpcedotal]

BTW, where is Chicxulub crater mentioned in the Bible?

Wasn't important enough...didn't cause a world-wide catastrophe like science would have you to believe.

Maybe that is where the moon was stuck to the earth....lol. Look at that, I need to write a science book.

 

[jpcedotal]

Nothing condescending about saying someone is playing word games, i guess.

But ok. Tell me what you feel is the point that I missed?

I wasn't defining immovable. I was stating that Psalms 93:1 does not use this word, which was what the argument was being based on.

This verse does not say the earth does not move.