Have any of the creationists here done the following?

[LifeToTheFullest!]

I'm an atheist when it comes to evolution --- there's nothing to be ignorant of.

Are you saying that God couldn't have used evolution to bring about variety, diversity and the beauty of life we see? Are you implying that He's incapable of such a process? He is indeed revealing Himself to us through his creation. That is the God I believe in, not the god you put in a box when it comes to a silly, analogous, metaphoric creation story.

My God is indeed bigger than yours.

 

[sandwiches]

QV please: 1 No.

Allright. So, is it safe to assume that you suprareasonably disagree with with something when it is in direct conflict with the Bible?

 

[jpcedotal]

1) Taken a college level Biology course?

2) Learned about evolution from a source other than what a Creation Scientist told you?

3) Taken both sides equally into account before making your decision to be a creationist or have you just gone with it because that's what you were told to do by your church leaders?

4) Read the following books:

*Finding Darwin's God by Kenneth Miller (A Catholic Biologist)
*The Language of God by Francis Collins (Christian and Director of Human Genome Project)
*The Counter-Creationism Handbook (which debunks MOST if not ALL the creationist myths that are so often perpetuated) [like the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics myth]

5) Visited the following websites:

The BioLogos Foundation THE BIOLOGOS FOUNDATION

In addition, do you understand cultural anthropology?

And finally, do you understand that Kent Hovind is NOT an accredited scientist? That he got his so-called degree from a degree mill?

I watch Sci-Fi when they got a good monster flick on....that's the same thing right?

You believe in global warming too don't ya?

I bet a missing link movie that was found because global warming cause ice to melt at one of the poles,,,,wait, I think I have seen that one on the Discovery Channel, my bad.

 

[AV1611VET]

Are you saying that God couldn't have used evolution to bring about variety, diversity and the beauty of life we see?

Did I not just show you how He turned a plant into an animal and back again?

He most certainly could have used macro-evolution to bring about diversity, but sent us a Memo showing He didn't.

Are you implying that He's incapable of such a process?

No.

He is indeed revealing Himself to us through his creation.

Okay, I have no problem with that --- in fact, we call it General Revelation.

And if your God is so much bigger than mine, and He reveals Himself so much through General Revelation --- why are you an Agnostic?

 

[sandwiches]

I watch Sci-Fi when they got a good monster flick on....that's the same thing right?

You believe in global warming too don't ya?

I bet a missing link movie that was found because global warming cause ice to melt at one of the poles,,,,wait, I think I have seen that one on the Discovery Channel, my bad.

I think the "fi" part in "sci fi" which stands for "fiction" kinda makes it not the same thing.

 

[AV1611VET]

Allright. So, is it safe to assume that you suprareasonably disagree with with something when it is in direct conflict with the Bible?

Absolutely.

 

[AV1611VET]

I watch Sci-Fi when they got a good monster flick on....that's the same thing right?

You believe in global warming too don't ya?

I bet a missing link movie that was found because global warming cause ice to melt at one of the poles,,,,wait, I think I have seen that one on the Discovery Channel, my bad.

Ya --- it was called Planet of the Apes ---

 

[rosenherman]

He most certainly could have used macro-evolution to bring about diversity, but sent us a Memo showing He didn't.

A memo saying He didn't? You got me confused. What part of the Bible is that memo?

 

[jpcedotal]

Are you saying that God couldn't have used evolution to bring about variety, diversity and the beauty of life we see? Are you implying that He's incapable of such a process? He is indeed revealing Himself to us through his creation. That is the God I believe in, not the god you put in a box when it comes to a silly, analogous, metaphoric creation story.

My God is indeed bigger than yours.

Worldly view.

Seven days.

The question isn't why so short, but why did God take so long?

My God could have created everything in a blink, so why take six days and rest on the seventh?...(that was a hint)

 

[jpcedotal]

I think the "fi" part in "sci fi" which stands for "fiction" kinda makes it not the same thing.

Evolution is more fiction than science so maybe it is the "sci" that should be dropped.

 

[Hespera]

Worldly view.

Seven days.

The question isn't why so short, but why did God take so long?

My God could have created everything in a blink, so why take six days and rest on the seventh?...(that was a hint)

hint: "embedded time"

 

[AV1611VET]

A memo saying He didn't? You got me confused. What part of the Bible is that memo?

Old and New Testament both.

Remember Solomon --- the man who had apes imported?

He came to this conclusion:

Lo, this only have I found, that God hath made man upright; but they have sought out many inventions.

Then, in the New Testament, Paul tells Timothy:

Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do.

And warns the Church at Colossae:

Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

 

[AV1611VET]

The question isn't why so short, but why did God take so long?

--- check your reps!

 

[sandwiches]

Absolutely.

Do you believe that the world is immovable as in Psalm 93:1?

"He fixed the earth firm and immovable."
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[LifeToTheFullest!]

Worldly view.

Seven days.

The question isn't why so short, but why did God take so long?

My God could have created everything in a blink, so why take six days and rest on the seventh?...(that was a hint)

If by "Worldly view" you mean reasonable, then yes.

Why seven, why not six, why not eight. Did he really need to rest?

Why didn't He just speak it into existence in just one instant. Oh wait, He did, about 13.7 billion years ago. It's called Big Bang. (It's actual science though, you probably wouldn't be terribly interested, as you might actually have to learn something.)

And don't give me the ol' it took seven days because He was modeling for us a work week. He could have just said later in the Pentatuech something like, "Ye thou shouldst worketh only six days, and on the seventh shall ye rest, because thou willdst be tired from working the previous six. Thou also willdst needeth to resteth at night from working hard all day as welleth..."

 

[AV1611VET]

Do you believe that the world is immovable as in Psalm 93:1?

"He fixed the earth firm and immovable."
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Yes --- just like you can't move a speeding train by pushing on it as it comes rumbling by.

Do you know what an impulse [roller] coaster is?

 

[sandwiches]

Yes --- just like you can't move a speeding train by pushing on it as it comes rumbling by.

So, is a moving train moving or not? Is the Earth moving or not?

Do you know what an impulse [roller] coaster is?

Sure, and they're movable.

 

[AV1611VET]

And don't give me the ol' it took seven days because He was modeling for us a work week. He could have just said later in the Pentatuech something like, "Ye thou shouldst worketh only six days, and on the seventh shall ye rest, because thou willdst be tired from working the previous six. Thou also willdst needeth to resteth at night from working hard all day as welleth..."

Oh my --- someone doesn't know how the King James Bible uses -est and -eth to show second and third person.

I'll bet you think "ye" is singular, don't you?

 

[Hespera]

Do you believe that the world is immovable as in Psalm 93:1?

"He fixed the earth firm and immovable."
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A person runs into problems when they try to interpret the bible literally. Kind of a contradiction in itself.


Interpretation....

• In relation to the canon law of the Roman Catholic Church, canonists give rules for the exact interpretation and acceptation of words, in order ...
• interpreted - understood in a certain way; made sense of; "

Literal.......

Being in accordance with, conforming to, or upholding the exact or primary meaning of a word or words.

Word for word; verbatim: a literal translation.

Avoiding exaggeration, metaphor, or embellishment; factual; prosaic: a literal description; a literal mind.


Conforming or limited to the simplest, nonfigurative, or most obvious meaning of a word or words.

 

[AV1611VET]

So, is a moving train moving or not? Is the Earth moving or not?

Indeed they are, but stand in front of one, and you'll get the idea of just how "immovable" they are.