Have Americans tired of Democracy?

[BCP1928]

It's what happens when mean old adults point the kids in the wrong direction. The Chinese Cultural Revolution _did_ happen. The Khmer Rouge _did_ exist. It helps to look into how it happened. Now, I don't think anything to those extremes will happen in the US because American kids are both more cynical and more lazy than that.

But we are headed in that direction now, let's see how far we get.

 

[2PhiloVoid]

Chinese?

Yeah. Chinese. Or Russian. Or French. Or the use of any other politically charged flag as an interpretive analogy.

 

[Reneep]

But we are headed in that direction now, let's see how far we get.

well in scripture the worldly USA IS PICTURED IN DAN 7 WE ARE the opening scene THE LION EAGLE GRIFFIN. THAT GETS ITS WINGS STRIPPED. ( THEY ARE GIVEN TO THE WOMEN ( REV 12 ) WHICH IS SPIRITUAL USA, WHICH ARE THE 7 STARS , THE 7 CHURCHES AND THE 7 CLANS OF ALICIONE.

WHAT MECHINISM WILL HE USE TO BREAK THE HEAD OF THE LION TO RELEASE THE EAGLE, THEN STRIP EAGLE OF ITS WINGS. WE'RE IN FOR TIMES OF TROUBLE. PRAY FOR MERCY FOLKS ! BECAUSE WHAT HAS GONE AROUND IS PROBABLY COMING BACK AROUND. Just keep praying and hold on to his Mercy.

And tell all not to rise up and fight him , the results of that is not good and he is warning his church to get purified, because it will get harder everyday to not rise up because of the demonic aurhorities as each day passes ( think Elijah after he killed 450 priests of Baal, legends of demons in the air trying to break into his mind . ) and even good Elijah was freaking out. So hold on it is a very long hard process and it will take a long hard kind of love to get there ( to overcome in and through Him , not in ourselves ways and logic )

 

[BCP1928]

Yeah. Chinese. Or Russian. Or French. Or the use of any other politically charged flag as an interpretive analogy.

So maybe you can describe this Chinese Jesus to us. I don't really understand the interpretive analogy thing. I don't understand how one Gets supply side Jesus out of the Gospels, either. Or the Jesus using the Confederate flag as an "interpretative analogy" although that one is at least traditional.

 

[Akita Suggagaki]

Right. Not a democracy. No need for poor people and people of the wrong religion to have a voice in government at all.

Which is "the wrong religion" when even Christians have different religions.

 

[Johan2222]

Interestingly enough, Saul is the first recorded democracy in the Bible.

Samuel is told to anoint Saul as the king and is told that God is only doing it because the people are rebellious and they have rejected God as ruler over them.

Even though Samuel anoints Saul as king the people hold a lot (vote) and Saul is chosen by lot, so obviously they don’t trust God works in Samuel.

It is always the way when nations become apostate and turn to idolatry. They refuse to believe that the rare godly people still among them are of God.

God, knowing all things knew it would end in disaster and he predicted it to Samuel and yet he allowed it anyway because what choice did he have?

You might say oh well God could have stopped it and yes he could.

He could have stopped the the fall of Adam and Eve and the inquisition and the American Civil War and 911 and Watergate and the bay of pigs and the assassination of Kennedy and Vietnam and the lie about weapons of mass destruction that led to the invasion of Iraq.

He could have stopped all of those things, but God is in the business of giving us free will and honouring our choices and what we want is free will to govern ourselves outside of the commandments of God because the governance of God is a narrow road that is hard and we don’t want to deny ourselves and crucify ourselves daily do we?

We don’t want to have to turn the cheek to our enemies who strike us. We don’t want to have to go the extra mile for somebody who demands we go one mile with them. We don’t want to be obedient to all authority and acknowledge that all authority is ordained by God. We don’t want to stop looking at women and lusting at them even though that is adultery and adulterers will not enter heaven because all of these things are the narrow road and we don’t want the narrow road do we?

We want to be able to have sex freely (without getting married) and say it is okay because “we love each other” even though God calls it fornication and tells us that fornicators will not enter heaven.

We want to get drunk whenever we want and maybe go a little bit further than drink and we want to party when we want.

We don’t want to live as Jesus, and give up all that we have, even though Jesus said “he who does not give up all that he has cannot be my disciple.”

We want to say that we are Jesus disciples even while we live in abundance and heap up treasures on earth and walk in idolatry and disobedience and covetousness and sexual immorality, loving the world and loving our lives even knowing that Jesus said that he who loves his life will lose it and he who loves the world does not have the love of the father in them.

If Jesus came back to earth today in the same way that he came before, he would be utterly rejected and hated in America and if you can’t see that then you have either not read his teachings or you have utterly misunderstood them.

Indeed, most of you who call yourself Christians are already in rebellion reading this, indignant that I have told the truth, if indeed you have got this far, which most of you won’t have, because most of you have already rebelled and rejected these things in the opening few paragraphs.

We ignore all the scriptures that we don’t want to follow and say oh we believe therefore we are saved.

We don’t want to read the scripture that says without works our faith is dead or acknowledge that dead faith will not inherit the kingdom of heaven.

We don’t want to acknowledge the scripture which says without holiness no man shall see the Lord.

We want to walk on the wide easy road that leads to destruction and say that we believe that Jesus died for our sins, and so we are saved and we don’t have to walk in obedience.

We want to idolise our movie stars and our football players and our weightlifters and our athletes and our children and our glorious buildings and our glorious technology that we parade in front of the world as though it is something to be worshipped and the world does worship it because we have taught them to do so because we worship all these things whilst calling ourselves Christians.

We are wretched, miserable, poor blind and naked and think that we see and we proclaim our righteousness to all around us and to the whole world whilst we crucify Christ again for ourselves and put him to an open shame and anyone who can’t see this is blind to the condition of the church and blind to the truth of prophecy, for prophecy said it would be like this in the last days and we are here in the last days, for the generation of the fig tree (Israel) is old.

Do you know who two of the major architects in teaching us all these things and leading us into captivity were and who we greatly esteem as two of the greatest Americans who ever lived?

I’ll give you some clues, a Billy is a male goat and grey is the colour that swine‘s flesh turns when it is dead.

Here is another clue; Joe, a lost teen.

There is no coincidence with God.

Democracy always ends up in blindness and idolatry because democracy functions on people voting for what is the most highly esteemed choice in the eyes of men.

Luke 16:15 KJV
. . . for that which is highly esteemed among men is abomination in the sight of God.

Democracy is voting for what God considers abominations and the greatest abomination always wins.

In a democracy, it is the man who is most highly esteemed who is elected, and yet that blindingly obvious fact does not seem to raise any alarm bells amongst many of us.

If you think people are going to vote for the narrow road, narrow gate and the hard road or crucifying themselves and walking in holiness and denying themselves and obeying the Commandments you are in a dreamworld and most of you are in a dreamworld and many of you have even managed to persuade yourselves that America is a Christian nation.

How can anyone wonder why God said the last church would be wretched, miserable poor blind and naked and yet utterly blind to her own blindness?

Let’s look at a few of the coincidences that God has revealed in scripture to show who America really is.

In the language of her under class.

Ame = Love
Rica = Riches

America alphanumerically equals 50, just like Laodicea and just like Laodicea, America loves riches just as the revelation of her name uncovers.

Just like Laodicea she thinks she has a personal relationship with Christ and therefore boasts that she has need of nothing.

Just like Laodicea she is utterly blind to her own condition.

The second last church of revelation, Philadelphia, (America’s first capital) is an extremely accurate depiction of the early development of America.

She is described as somewhat faithful and a land of great opportunity to whom God has opened the door and no man on earth can shut it.

Let’s have a look at the progression from Philadelphia to Laodicea.

Philadelphia was America’s first capital in the days when democracy did not exist and the very few people who were allowed to vote were all titled land owners.

Although the constitution boasted of equality under the law and equal opportunity for everybody the truth was there was a hierarchy in society and some people had privilege and some people didn’t.

Democracy really only came to America in the 50s because before then there were still a lot of people in America who didn’t have the right to vote or the right to use certain public transport or the right to go to certain schools.

America was at the peak of her prosperity and power in 1945 and it’s been downhill all the way from there. Interesting that isn’t it because that’s about when people got their rights and when you give people what they want, it is always all downhill from there.

Laodicea is an interesting name because not only does it have the same alpha numerical value as America and have the same qualities as modern America but it reflects the progression from Philadelphia to the current state of affairs.

In the early 20th century Hollywood began to influence America and now her grip over the country and even the world is absolutely unprecedented.

The capital was moved from Philadelphia to DC and democracy was made complete and everybody was given the vote.

Hollywood, the most highly esteemed symbol of LA and whose stars we worship influences the people who in turn influence DC.

LA, oh DC yeah.

There is no coincidence with God.

You say you believe in the prophecies and you say you believe that we are in the last days but in the last days all the prophecies reveal that the love of men will have grown cold and that we will not endure sound doctrine and we will be turned into fables and be spiritually blind and all these things are right in front of our faces.

Jesus said concerning his return;

Luke 18:8 KJV
. . . Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?

Obviously, he did not ask that question thinking that the answer would be “yes an abundance”. The answer implied is “no almost none at all” and if you can’t see the obviousness of that right in front of your face, you are definitely wretched, miserable, poor blind and naked.

Whenever people say they are of God and then turn to democracy the result is always the same and those who say it is only coincidentally revealed are blind, for God is the author of all coincidence and God who is full of mercy, willing that no man perish has left us an abundance of evidence in scripture to persuade us of who we are.

You should understand that those who have not endured suffering in their lives have no spiritual wisdom. Those who have lived easy lives in the deceitfulness of riches are blind.
Hebrews 12.6-8.

If you have lived an easy life, there is only one way you can be saved and that is to have the heart of the man in Luke 18.13.

If however you deny Christ, and make yourself a teacher of what is right and good, Christ (the Word) will deny you, for the Word reveals all these things and if you teach on this forum and think that you are wise to teach when you have lived an easy life, you are lost in pride, leading others into captivity and on the wide road to destruction.

N is the 14th letter in the alphabet (two sevens) and 77 is the alphanumerical value of Christ and when you put Christianity into democracy the result is always the same.

DemoNcracy.

God has laid an abundance of evidence in numbers just like he has laid evidence in scripture and the stars and the universe and the sun and the moon and even our languages because he is not willing that any of us perish and so he has laid signs everywhere.

Many people think it is only coincidence that John 6.66 reveals the ways of antichrist believers who refuse to walk in the ways of Christ but with God there is no coincidence.

The heart of the gospel is in
John - the disciple whom Jesus loved
14. - two sevens
21. - three sevens

John 14.21

Alphanumerically;

Woman = 66 God says the woman is deceived.

Alcohol = 66 God says alcohol is deceptive.

Sugar = 66 God says rich food is deceptive.

All these things are the highly esteemed desires of men and they are all deceptive to our spiritual growth and yet we indulge in all of them abundantly whilst we claim to be wise Christians.

Revelation 3:18 KJV
I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.

The warning in Rev. 3.18 is to those of 666 (18) who are of the three foul spirits

How many of our teachers have been through the fire and are able to reveal gold? Paul spent a good deal of scripture telling us the fire that he went through and Hebrews reveals that without that fire we are blind and yet the teachers that we have heaped to ourselves are from easy abundant lives and those who have endured chastening, we reject.

Hebrews 12:8 KJV
But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.

In 2002 I discovered prophecy in scripture which revealed that America would soon begin to experience catastrophic judgements and that over the next 20 years her economy would slowly slide and her deficit would grow and her standard of living would decline as the many calamities contributed to her downfall.

The evidence of the prophecy was overwhelming and I presented it to thousands of believers in many churches in the American Southwest and I was only received by three people.

In fact, I was reviled and scorned by many churches and was actually physically manhandled out of one of them by a group of angry screaming “Christians”.

That was before;

New Orleans, America's greatest natural catastrophe, Enron, the greatest corporate collapse in America's history, Sandy, Irma, María, poisonous green tides, Flint Michigan’s deadly toxic water, the Las Vegas massacre, the New Orleans massacre, collapsing bridges, apocalyptic Midwest flooding, the only quadruple sequence of hurricanes in America’s history, to hit Florida, Deepwater Horizon, failure to defeat a small band of poorly armed untrained third world cave dwellers, growing discord with her allies, Texas freezing, Paradise lost in fire, LA fires, Coronavirus, and Champlain Towers, where the sham of American Christianity was made plain to the whole world by the fall of a house built on the sand and great was the fall of it.

Americans are not tiring of democracy. They are tiring of not having their fill of riches.

They are tiring of all the judgements that God is sending against them but if they knew what was coming in the very near future they would be grateful for what they have now and utterly focused on other things

The signs are everywhere that the day is at hand and that we have become blind and foolish through our prosperity.

Proverbs 1:32 KJV
For the turning away of the simple shall slay them, and the prosperity of fools shall destroy them.

In fulfilment of the prophecy, most people who read these things will harden their hearts and turn away.

 

[2PhiloVoid]

So maybe you can describe this Chinese Jesus to us. I don't really understand the interpretive analogy thing. I don't understand how one Gets supply side Jesus out of the Gospels, either. Or the Jesus using the Confederate flag as an "interpretative analogy" although that one is at least traditional.

There's no need for me to describe a "Chinese Flag" Jesus.

No, I think it's enough to say none of us will obtain the political or ideological "Jesus" any of us individually wants. Not fully, anyway.

 

[durangodawood]

The United States is a Republic..

Thats right.

We are also a democracy in that power ultimately resides in We The People because we, the people, determine who will make up our government.

 

[BCP1928]

There's no need for me to describe a "Chinese Flag" Jesus.

"If a man does you good, do good unto him in return. If a man does you harm, do good unto him also. For that way all will be made good."

---Lao Tzu​

No, I think it's enough to say none of us will obtain the political or ideological "Jesus" any of us individually wants. Not fully, anyway.

Then we should each be free to find Jesus on our own.

 

[DaisyDay]

Ultimately, in all those systems, as is the primary principle of Marxism, they boil down to defining social classes and pitting them in eternal conflict with each other.

Do you think that social classes and/or economic classes don't exist?

That's not a working formula for any organization...or nation.

Identifying then rectifying problems is a working formula.

 

[Methusellah]

There is a simple solution to the question of the current model of (non-)democracy. You can find two very short (2+5 pages) papers by searching the title and author’s name “Constitutional Revolution George Potkonyak”. However, it would be impossible to implement it in USA; not possible for man but possible for God only.

 

[2PhiloVoid]

"If a man does you good, do good unto him in return. If a man does you harm, do good unto him also. For that way all will be made good."

---Lao Tzu​

That's not the "Chinese" I was referring to. Especially so since my copy of the Tao Te Ching remains a perennial favorite of mine.

But since you've picked at that contextual scab, I'll just admit straight out for clarification: yeah, I was making a veiled smack at Communism, which I absolutely HATE and would love to see disappear from the world scene!

Then we should each be free to find Jesus on our own.

I wasn't referring to how free existentially any of us should prescriptively be. In fact, theologically speaking, none of us will get the Jesus we want.

There is no such thing as a laissez-faire Jesus, spiritually speaking or politically speaking.

 

[RDKirk]

Do you think that social classes and/or economic classes don't exist?

I'm sure I've mentioned that Critical Theory is Marxism without the economics.

The class conflict in the various flavors of Critical Theory are based on race, sex, or sexual orientation--non-transmutable characteristics--not economic class.

 

[DaisyDay]

I'm sure I've mentioned that Critical Theory is Marxism without the economics.

The class conflict in the various flavors of Critical Theory are based on race, sex, or sexual orientation--non-transmutable characteristics--not economic class.

Yes, I know what you mentioned, but I asked the question nonetheless.

 

[RDKirk]

Yes, I know what you mentioned, but I asked the question nonetheless.

Under fully implemented DEI, the straight white male who struggled to escape from the Appalachians or from the Louisiana bayou is in the same class as the straight white male graduated from Harvard.

 

[BCP1928]

I'm sure I've mentioned that Critical Theory is Marxism without the economics.

The class conflict in the various flavors of Critical Theory are based on race, sex, or sexual orientation--non-transmutable characteristics--not economic class.

By a combination, though not a conspiracy, of Left and Right. The Right has reached the next inevitable step, the creation of a single-party state.

 

[Postvieww]

Let's face it, democracy is hard and cumbersome. It takes committees and endless discussion. Sometimes it seems nothing gets done but political showcasing. Democracy can be frustrating and ineffective. How much easier it could be to hand over authority to someone decisive who is unobstructed by standards procedures, "obstructive" existing legislation and even the Constitution. And once the Judicial and Legislative branches lean in favor of the Executive in power there are no more safeguards. At that point, if it is the will of a critical segment of the American people to step away from democracy, what can stop the transition?

Is that where we are heading? Is that what America wants?

Ridiculous. We are going to save this constitutional republic over the protest of many liberals.

 

[Reneep]

Let’s look at that question in light of America in revelation.

By the way, I posted this not knowing that it would be post number 66.

Hopefully you understand that there is no coincidence with God. If you notice a coincidence, God has put it there for a reason and many of us will ignore it to our peril.

Saul is the first recorded democracy in the Bible.

Samuel is told to anoint Saul as the king and is told that God is only doing it because the people are rebellious and they have rejected God as ruler over them.

Even though Samuel anoints Saul as king the people hold a lot (vote) and Saul is chosen by lot, so obviously they don’t trust God works in Samuel.

It is always the way when nations become apostate and turn to idolatry. They refuse to believe that the rare godly people still among them are of God.

God, knowing all things knew it would end in disaster and he predicted it to Samuel and yet he allowed it anyway because what choice did he have?

You might say oh well God could have stopped it and yes he could.

He could have stopped the the fall of Adam and Eve and the inquisition and the American Civil War and 911 and Watergate and the bay of pigs and the assassination of Kennedy and Vietnam and the lie about weapons of mass destruction that led to the invasion of Iraq.

He could have stopped all of those things, but God is in the business of giving us free will and honouring our choices and what we want is free will to govern ourselves outside of the commandments of God because the governance of God is a narrow road that is hard and we don’t want to deny ourselves and crucify ourselves daily do we?

We don’t want to have to turn the cheek to our enemies who strike us. We don’t want to have to go the extra mile for somebody who demands we go one mile with them. We don’t want to be obedient to all authority and acknowledge that all authority is ordained by God. We don’t want to stop looking at women and lusting at them even though that is adultery and adulterers will not enter heaven because all of these things are the narrow road and we don’t want the narrow road do we?

We want to be able to have sex freely (without getting married) and say it is okay because “we love each other” even though God calls it fornication and tells us that fornicators will not enter heaven.

We want to get drunk whenever we want and maybe go a little bit further than drink and we want to party when we want.

We don’t want to live as Jesus, and give up all that we have, even though Jesus said “he who does not give up all that he has cannot be my disciple.”

We want to say that we are Jesus disciples even while we live in abundance and heap up treasures on earth and walk in idolatry and disobedience and covetousness and sexual immorality, loving the world and loving our lives even knowing that Jesus said that he who loves his life will lose it and he who loves the world does not have the love of the father in them.

If Jesus came back to earth today in the same way that he came before, he would be utterly rejected and hated in America.

Indeed, most of you who call yourself Christians are already in rebellion reading this, indignant that I have told the truth that you should have told, if indeed you have got this far, which most of you won’t have done, because you have already rebelled and rejected these things in the hardness of your hearts.

We ignore all the scriptures that we don’t want to follow and say oh we believe therefore we are saved.

We don’t want to read the scripture that says without works our faith is dead or acknowledge that the dead faith will not inherit the kingdom of heaven.

We don’t want to acknowledge the scripture which says without holiness no man shall see the Lord.

No, we don’t want to do any of these things, we want to walk on the wide easy road that leads to destruction and say that we believe that Jesus died for our sins, and so we are saved and we don’t have to walk in obedience.

We want to idolise our movie stars and our football players and our weightlifters and our athletes and our children and our glorious buildings and our glorious technology that we parade in front of the world as though it is something to be worshipped and the world does worship it because we have taught them to do so because we worship all these things whilst calling ourselves Christians.

We are wretched, miserable, poor blind and naked and think that we see and we proclaim our righteousness to all around us and to the whole world whilst we crucify Christ again for ourselves and put him to an open shame.

Do you know who was one of the major architects in teaching us all these things and leading us into captivity and who we greatly esteem as one of the greatest Americans who ever lived?

I’ll give you a clue, a Billy is a male goat and grey is the colour that swine‘s flesh turns when it is dead.

There is no coincidence with God.

Democracy always ends up in blindness and idolatry because democracy functions on people voting for what is highly esteemed in the eyes of men, the most popular candidate who is going to give us what we want.

Luke 16:15 KJV
. . . for that which is highly esteemed among men is abomination in the sight of God.

Democracy is voting for what God considers abominations and the greatest abomination always wins.

In a democracy, it is the man who is most highly esteemed who is elected, and yet that blindingly obvious fact does not seem to raise any alarm bells amongst many of us.

If you think people are going to vote for the narrow road, narrow gate and the hard road and crucifying themselves and walking in holiness and denying themselves and obeying the Commandments you are in a dreamworld and most of you are in a dreamworld and many of you have even managed to persuade yourselves that America is a Christian nation.

It is hardly any wonder that God said the last church would be wretched, miserable poor blind and naked and yet utterly blind to her own blindness.

Let’s look at a few of the coincidences that God has revealed in scripture to show who America really is.

In the language of her under class.

Ame = Love
Rica = Riches

America alphanumerically equals 50 just like Laodicea and just like Laodicea, America loves riches just as the revelation of her name uncovers.

“Oh everything that you have written above is only coincidence” I hear you say, and the idolatry is not really true. We’ve said the sinner’s prayer, stop talking to us like this. Stop telling us the truth, prophecy easy things and deceitful things. I hear many hearts protesting in proud rebellion as they boast of their “relationship with Jesus” not knowing that their relationship is with a familiar spirit.

Having itching ears we have heaped to ourselves teachers who teach us what we want to hear.

You say you believe in the prophecies and you say you believe that we are in the last days but in the last days all the prophecies reveal that the love of men will have grown cold and that we will not endure sound doctrine and we will be turned into fables and all these things are right in front of our faces.

Jesus said concerning his return;

Luke 18:8 KJV
. . . Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?

Obviously, he did not ask that question thinking that the answer would be “yes an abundance”. The answer implied is “no almost none at all” and if you can’t see the obviousness of that right in front of your face, you are wretched, miserable, poor blind and naked.

And so we continue to manage to harden our hearts to the blindingly obvious truth.

Whenever people say they are of God and then turn to democracy the result is always the same and those who say it is only coincidentally revealed are blind, for God is the author of all coincidence and God who is full of mercy, willing that no man perish has left us an abundance of evidence in scripture to persuade us of who we are.

You should understand that those who have not endured suffering in their lives have no spiritual wisdom. Those who have lived easy lives in the deceitfulness of riches are blind.
Hebrews 12.6-8.

If you have lived an easy life, there is only one way you can be saved and that is to acknowledge that you are blind and wretched and miserable and utterly unworthy, like the man in Luke 18.13.

If however you deny Christ, and make yourself a teacher of what is right and good, Christ (the Word) will deny you, for the Word reveals all these things I have told you and if you teach on this forum and think that you are wise to teach when you have lived an easy life, you are lost in pride, leading others into captivity and on the wide road to destruction.

N is the 14th letter in the alphabet (two sevens) and 77 is the alphanumerical value of Christ and when you put Christianity into democracy the result is always the same.

DemoNcracy.

God has laid an abundance of evidence in numbers just like he has laid evidence in the stars and the universe and the sun and the moon and even our languages because he is not willing that any of us perish and so he has laid signs everywhere.

Many people think it is only coincidence that John 6.66 reveals the ways of antichrist believers who refuse to walk in the ways of Christ but with God there is no coincidence.

The heart of the gospel is in
John - the disciple whom Jesus loved
14. - two sevens
21. - three sevens

John 14.21

Woman = 66 God says the woman is deceived.

Alcohol = 66 God says alcohol is deceptive.

Sugar = 66 God says rich food is deceptive.

All these things are highly esteemed by men and they are all deceptive to our spiritual growth and yet we indulge in all of them abundantly whilst we claim to be wise Christians.

Revelation 3:18 KJV
I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.

The warning in Rev. 3.18 is to those of 666 (18) who are of the three foul spirits

How many of your teachers have been through the fire and are able to reveal gold? Paul spent a good deal of scripture telling us the fire that he went through and Hebrews reveals that without that fire you are blind and yet the teachers that you have heaped to yourself are from easy abundant lives and those who have endured chastening, you reject

Hebrews 12:8 KJV
But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.

Americans are not tiring of democracy. They are tiring of not having their fill of riches.

They are tiring of all the judgements that God is sending against them.

New Orleans, America's greatest natural catastrophe, Enron, the greatest corporate collapse in America's history, Sandy, Irma, María, poisonous green tides, Flint Michigan’s deadly toxic water, the Las Vegas massacre, the New Orleans massacre, collapsing bridges, apocalyptic Midwest flooding, the only quadruple sequence of hurricanes in America’s history, to hit Florida, Deepwater Horizon, failure to defeat a small band of poorly armed untrained third world cave dwellers, growing discord with her allies, Texas freezing, Paradise lost in fire, LA fires, Coronavirus, and Champlain Towers, where the sham of American Christianity was made plain to the whole world by the fall of a house built on the sand and great was the fall of it.

The signs are everywhere that the day is at hand and that we have become blind and foolish through our prosperity.

Proverbs 1:32 KJV
For the turning away of the simple shall slay them, and the prosperity of fools shall destroy them.

In fulfilment of the prophecy, most of you who read these things will harden your hearts and turn away.

On every point you are nearly perfect. But do you live what you teach others BECAUSE SOMETIMES I STRUGGLE ? I get so blindsided , That is such the hardest part OF OUR WALK , because we don't know what to do unless the Spirit makes Fathers will in that situation perfectly clear to us.

Like last week at the UNITED Methodist CHURCH I GO TO NOW ( but I am not a methodist) . I GO THERE NOW BECAUSE I CANT WALK TO ANY OTHER AND I GET A RIDE TO IT. THEY HAD A GUEST SPEAKER, BECAUSE THE PASTOR WAS ON VACATION AND now THEY WERE HIRED BY THE PASTOR full time , SO COME TO FIND OUT ON THAT SAME DAY, IT WAS REVEALED (As militantly ) SUBMITTED to those sins ,AND COMMITTED ( IN A LEGAL arrangement ) HOMOSEXUAL AND A FEMALE TO BOOT. (So as of today she is not a Deborah ).

I JUST FINALLY DECIDED THAT DAY , AND TOLD MY RIDE ( WHO IS THE PASTORS MOTHER ) THAT I CAN'T SIT UNDER HER TEACHING AGAIN, THAT I WILL NOT SUBMIT TO THAT. B3CAUSE THAT SET OF STRONGHOLD HAVE K8CKED BY BUTMANY TIMES OFPEOPLE I L9VE.. "so don't come get me on those days " BUT THAT I HAD NO PROBLEM WITH HER LEADING PRAISE OR PLAYING THE PIANO FOR THE CHURCH. I MEAN THERE IS ONLY OLD PEOPLE IN THE CHURCH OUT IN THE STICKS.

BUT I AM JUST SICK ABOUT IT. AND I don't like the options. And today am not willing to MAKE A STAND AND MAYBE fight about it. WELL UNTIL I GET MORE CLAIRITY FROM FATHER ABOUT WHERE I AM TO DO IN THIS SITUATION. THE WHOLE THING CAN ONLY BREAK YOUR HEART. SO I BELIEVE EVERY WORD YOU SAID NEARLY ENOUGH. BUT HOW TO LIVE AND MAKE A STAND FOR RIGHTEOUSNESS SAKE.....IN THIS SLUDGE FACTORY AGE

AND NOT GET DIRTY , and not support the sins that bindpeople to helltighter than any others

THAT IS BIG QUESTION. I JUST DONT BELIEVE RIGHT NOW THERE IS A GOOD ENOUGH ANSWER. FOR MY SOUL OR THEIRS. BECAUSE Jesus love was supposed to set them free , his love can set us free of our sins , . Like seed on a hard path, it found no roots ? It just breaks my heart. The devil is a liar. And I am sick of those lies.
My Question again is it only idealism or have you found some way to live it, That doesn't crush your soul and leave you paralyzed? Or maybe that is the death to self part. Do what he says if you can or not. ? Then Father will create life from all that dying...

 

[Johan2222]

Hello Renee,

Walk in the spirit of the man of Luke 18.13 showing kindness to all who come into your life and suffering the wicked who now surround you, even in the churches, and I tell you the truth, praying that God will allow you to hear me.

Revelation 2:7 KJV
He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.

 

[Valletta]

Let's face it, democracy is hard and cumbersome. It takes committees and endless discussion. Sometimes it seems nothing gets done but political showcasing. Democracy can be frustrating and ineffective. How much easier it could be to hand over authority to someone decisive who is unobstructed by standards procedures, "obstructive" existing legislation and even the Constitution. And once the Judicial and Legislative branches lean in favor of the Executive in power there are no more safeguards. At that point, if it is the will of a critical segment of the American people to step away from democracy, what can stop the transition?

Is that where we are heading? Is that what America wants?

You're seeing democracy at work. Many are shocked at the high level of corruption that is being exposed in the federal government.