The Lord's day is the Sabbath day - Matthew 12:8. There is no mention of Sunday being "the Lords day" in the bible. This is a Catholic teaching that is not biblical.
What a load of garbage about Sunday being the day of worship for Apollos. What it fails to recognize is that pagans worships pagan gods every day of the week. How do you think each day of the week got its name? Every day of the week is named after a pagan god. By this logic one could just as easily say that Sabbatarians worship the god of Saturn because that’s what Saturday was named for. There’s nothing in the Christian church that involves worshipping apollos or any other pagan god.
Could also be judgement day?
Catholics do not teach it is Sunday as they claim they determined Sunday by their tradition and it is not in the Bible but by their claimed authority outside of scripture...
But neither is continuing in known unrepentant sin (breaking anyone of God's 10 commandments) once God gives us a knowledge of the truth and we reject it *Hebrews 10:26-31. We are saved by God's grace through faith. We keep God's commandments not to be saved but because we love God *John 14:15 which is the fruit of faith.
You cannot even quote the verse as it is written. What does that say for your integrity???? 9 There remaineth therefore a sabbath rest for the people of God.Sure here you go Bob...
HEBREWS 4:9 THEREFORE IT REMAINS FOR THE PEOPLE OF GOD TO KEEP THE SABBATH
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You cannot even quote the verse as it is written. What does that say for your integrity???? 9 There remaineth therefore a sabbath rest for the people of God.
Remember the verses pertaining to verse 9 tells us that the Hebrews never entered the rest God had for them. Yet there is still a rest that we can have. Well, The Hebrews observed the Seventh day yet they didn't enter that rest. You observe the same Seventh day same as the Hebrews did. The conundrum is that the rest you enter is not the same rest Hebrews 4:9 is referring. Our rest is TODAY as the verses reveal. Our rest is in Jesus. He has invited us to enter His rest and you ignore His invitation just as the Hebrews did.
My invitation still stands. Show us in the New Testament where we are to keep the Seventh day or for that matter any day.
Just a little parroting... Wouldn't it be better for you, instead of hanging around here, to go out and spread the Good news of the plan of salvation? Actually, I have no idea what you do for our Savior and I certainly would not judge you even if I knew. Judging is not part of my MOS and is well above my pay grade.Bob, thanks for the answer. I am sorry for your experience with the SDA church. I think to be fair, your experience is not everyone's experience and its certainly not mine or the other 2+ million members. If our sole purpose is to bring people to God wouldn't your time be better served trying to persuade other non-believers into believing instead of hanging around on the Sabbath forums, who in your opinion, just have the wrong day (despite your admission there is no scriptural evidence that Sunday keeping is a day that God Blessed or asked us to keep Holy). It seems your reason for trying to persuade people to not keep God's Sabbath is a self-serving reason. If you don't think people who keep Sabbath will burn in hell, why don't spend your time bringing non-believers to God. Sabbath keepers already believe in God. Maybe something to pray about?
PS Also, I wrote once you provide scripture that God Blessed Sunday or made it Holy I would provide scripture on the new covenant. Since you could not do that I only referenced it. There's not much of a point to provide the scriptures, you know it but refuse to believe it. @LoveGodsWord has provided detailed scriptures for you multiple times.
I never regened I clearly stated as soon as you can provide any refences in the Bible that God deemed Sunday and day of "Rest" or made "Holy" or "Sanctified" or "Blessed" since you could not, the deal was off. That's how those sorts of things work.Just a little parroting... Wouldn't it be better for you, instead of hanging around here, to go out and spread the Good news of the plan of salvation? Actually, I have no idea what you do for our Savior and I certainly would not judge you even if I knew. Judging is not part of my MOS and is well above my pay grade.
As to my believing Sabbath keepers JUST have the wrong day, I maybe you haven't been around long enough to realize that there are many cracks in the SDA belief system. This forum is just about Sabbath and the Law. I try to stay within those bounds. I would be glad to have a private conversation with you.
To me your post is the pot calling the kettle black. I certainly do not owe you what I do with my time, but for instance I will tell you that today I will be volunteering at our local hospital. Your judgment of me has no merit.
Now to the meat of our debate. Actually, it is a one sided debate because even though you promised to answer my request you continue to renege. Why do you put the burden on the back of LGW who I really do take issue.
The Lord's day is the Sabbath day - Matthew 12:8. There is no mention of Sunday being "the Lords day" in the bible. This is a Catholic teaching that is not biblical.
Could also be judgement day?
Catholics do not teach it is Sunday as they claim they determined Sunday by their tradition and it is not in the Bible but by their claimed authority outside of scripture...
Either is Sunday being a Holy day. Ellen White came long after the Bible was established. She has never claimed to be apostle in the Bible. Again, not sure what your point is.Their claimed authority as being churches established by the apostles. I can’t seem to find Ellen White listed among the apostles in my bible for some reason.
For the Romans it was the venerable day of the Sun to the Sun God Sol Invictus. There is no scripture to tell Christians to worship God on Sunday and that Sunday is a Holy day. This is a man-made teaching and tradition that has lead many to break God's 4th commandment handed down to Christianity from the Roman Catholic Church. Jesus warns us about following man made teachings and traditions that break the commandments of God in Matthew 15:3-9. BABYLON has fallen and God is calling all who have ears to hear back to his Word.
Can you please show me where circumcision is in Gods 10 commandments?Acts 15 the apostles abolished circumcision by the guidance of the Holy Spirit, or so they claim. How do you know that this was from the Holy Spirit and not their own “man made teaching that breaks God’s commandments”?
Either is Sunday being a Holy day. Ellen White came long after the Bible was established. She has never claimed to be apostle in the Bible, more of a messenger. Again, not sure what your point is.
Can you please show me where circumcision is in Gods 10 commandments?
No, the Bible is the sole authority. The Bible scriptures are pretty clear for the most part, most just choose not to go by the Bible and instead rely on man-made traditions. The SDA church is based on the Bible teachings. Ellen White helped form the church on the basis Saturday is the Sabbath like God wrote with His own finger and Jesus and His disciples kept. Don't you want use Jesus as our example and follow His way instead of the tradition of man?So Ellen White has more authority in the church than the church the apostles established? She is somehow able to interpret the scriptures more accurately than the church the apostles established?
You were talking about circumcision. The dietary guidelines are not in Gods commandments, but since He created us He left those for us to know what foods are good for us and which foods are not. There is a study that breaks down all of the unclean foods and research has shown they are unhealthy. I'll see if I can find it.Why are only God’s 10 commandments to be obeyed. I thought we were talking about God’s commandments not just 10 of them and can you please point out where the dietary laws are in the 10 commandments?
No, the Bible is the sole authority. The Bible scriptures are pretty clear for the most part, most just choose not to go by the Bible and instead rely on man-made traditions. The SDA church is based on the Bible teachings. Ellen White helped form the church on the basis Saturday is the Sabbath like God wrote with His own finger and Jesus and His disciples kept. Don't you want use Jesus as our example and follow His way instead of the tradition of man?
You were talking about circumcision. The dietary guidelines are not in Gods commandments, but since He created us He left those for us to know what foods are good for us and which foods are not. There is a study that breaks down all of the unclean foods and research has shown they are unhealthy. I'll see if I can find it.
Seems like you ask a lot of questions, but never answer any.
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