Has the gay community infiltrated this website?

[intricatic]

I think I found teh ghey community!

The lavender and fuchsia sky gave it away.
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Now -- does anybody have directions on how to get there?

Isn't that South Beach?

 

[kiwimac]

I need to brush up on the TOS
Because I have never reported anyone, nor would I unless there were some ectreme circumstances involved, But I have noticed how several
Complete and total Trolling threads were begun, by people who convienently post one set of beliefs in say this forum, then publicly decry Christianity, in a seperat section of this website,
So From What your telling me, If I were to report them as atheist trolls Who claim they are christians, to Gain acces to these very forums that are titled christian only, For the sole purpose of asking a flame war question, that I would Get in Trouble?

And Yes I agree The best thing to Do would be to Ignore them, However, unfortunately not everyone has discernment.
Now Granted just like I stated I would not report anyone for what they said, It is bothersome, If we have to sit back and watch other christians, who don't notice yet, that they are being baited, and just let them stumble.

Talking about me?

 

[UberLutheran]

Isn't that South Beach?

It's a little farther west (and northwest) of South Beach.

By the time you hit Amarillo, you're about half-way there.

 

[ContentInHim]

He's a Conservative...he believes homosexuality is a sin, but is caving more and more since Romans 1 is the only worthy argument...but he supports gay marriage and gay rights, since he believes gays are better off monogamous than promiscuous. He probably knows more on this issue than anyone else, since he researched w/the early Church fathers and everything. He has a PHD, he is only ONE of the people I use for my debate proofs.

I hate to disagree with you on this, but Tony Campolo is decidedly social liberal. He has spoken to my church in the past and is no longer welcome. His wife is ultra-liberal on sexual issues.

There are wonderful testimonies of Christians brought out of homosexuality. Check out Matt Redman. We none of us need to remain in our sin after being pulled from the mirey clay by our Messiah. He came to earth also to free us from our strongholds! Praise Him!

 

[Prodical]

Though I may not agree with the Gay lifestyle, I do have to say the very start of this thread was very ill-minded and just wrong. This couldve been brought to our attention in a more tactful way. Heck, even in one of the MANY homosexual debate forums already in progress

 

[JWNEWMAN]

Well, I DO know that many who use this site perceive anybody who is not a Biblical literalist to be an atheist; as is anybody who suggests that the Book of Genesis is not a collection of historically-accurate stories but a set of instructional myths to explain why things are the way they are; as is anybody who even suggests that the Bible is not always historically accurate or infallible or inerrant (nor does it need to be); as is anybody who is a cultural, social, religious or political liberal.

One doesn't even have to be an atheist to receive the label "atheist". All one has to do is say they don't accept the concept of Biblical literalism or Biblical infallibility or inerrancy, or be a member of a supposedly "liberal" church.

Don't believe me? Take a look through some of the posts in Christian Philosophy and Ethics and Congregation/Fundamentalists.

Us "christians" are getting down right paranoid these days. Look what's happening to the neighborhood!

Reminds me of a story: Friend of mine had words with a neighbor down the street, friend is a Jew looks Nordic. Anyway the neighbor is an Italian (which has nothing to do with anything) the neighbor down the street (just moved in) comes over to apologize to his Jewish neighbor (we're assuming he doesn't know he's Jewish) and the guy says, "Look pal, sorry we got off on the wrong foot, please accept my apologies for what I said! You know you and I are a minority around here (meaning white) these monkeys are taking over the neighborhood!" Now my friends wife is black and they care for their daughters black children. So my friend says "Get the hell off my property!"

What does that have to do with anything? I'm not sure but it seemed fitting somehow.

 

[EnemyPartyII]

You cannot practice being gay and being a christian at the same time just the same as one cannot be a jewish nazi or a satanic christian.

Sure you can be a Jewish Nazi... and there are even some philosophers who hold that satanism is a subset of Christianity... there are certainly enough Christians who accuse other Christian denominations of being Satanic...

 

[Itani]

A Christian should not practice lying. God can forgive you for the lie that accidentally slips up or so.

Live your life honestly. Honesty is the best policy.
Sometimes is hurts
Like when I crashed my car into a farm field and almost got myself killed. I was honest to the cop and I may have to pay for it by losing my lisence for a while, but I don't regret not lying

 

[Itani]

Sure you can be a Jewish Nazi... and there are even some philosophers who hold that satanism is a subset of Christianity... there are certainly enough Christians who accuse other Christian denominations of being Satanic...

Your missing my point here.
Nazis had a policy against Jews. They killed them. They wanted to obliterate them.

You cannot worship Satan and Christ at the same time.
Anyone who is a christian that follows Satan is not a Christian, but an antichrist.

As a christian, if your doing satan things, I can rebuke you in the name of Jesus, according to His word, the scriptures. For it is not my will to rebuke you, but the Fathers. The Father would want to bring you back to the light.

 

[EnemyPartyII]

Your missing my point here.
Nazis had a policy against Jews. They killed them. They wanted to obliterate them.

Oh, you mean Axis Nazis, I'm sorry, you weren't specific. Still, there were certainly Jewish members of the Nazi Party, and Jewish colaborators. Not many, certainly, but they did exist.

You cannot worship Satan and Christ at the same time.
Anyone who is a christian that follows Satan is not a Christian, but an antichrist.

Indeed. That seems logical. However, you certainly get a lot of Christians accusing other Christians of being Satanic, as I say... so while in broad sweeping terms, you are correct, it is the specifics where your analogy falls down, and, as they say, the devil is in the detail.

 

[tulc]

Though I may not agree with the Gay lifestyle

Anyone think this should be added to the drinking game?

I do have to say the very start of this thread was very ill-minded and just wrong. This couldve been brought to our attention in a more tactful way. Heck, even in one of the MANY homosexual debate forums already in progress

Very true!
tulc(who has actually been called quite a few things on CF...even a couple that were true)

 

[minimoose]

I infiltrate this website, but I am 100% Christian.


Believe it or not...it's possible to be a Gay Christian, but the majority of the threads started lately are not even from gay people.

You can validate all you want but the bible is very clear about God's stance on homosexuality.

1. Lev. 18:22, "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination."
2. Lev. 20:13, "If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltness is upon them."
3. 1 Cor. 6:9-10, "Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals1, 10nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, shall inherit the kingdom of God."
4. Rom. 1:26-28, "For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, 27and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error. 28And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper."

 

[tulc]

Hey welcome to CF minimoose!
tulc(hope you are blessed here!)

 

[BlessedGent]

Yes, yes it is. Better to say nothing, and help the brothern, than argue with the lost, and do the will of Satan.

Hmm, you mean as Christ ignored the Prostitutes and how he ignored the tax-collectors and the like?

Those prostitutes and tax collectors weren't exactly out to demean Christ but some were out to recieve forgiveness from their sins. to deal with being attacked all we have to do is simply reply with the rebuttal. If a small child asks a question, would you ignore it? if trolls are allowed to continue without rebukement then we endanger the faiths of young christians because they are always watching to see what we are all doing much like mentors or parents.

He is a Conservative, Protestant Christian...I don't know how more to put it ? I consider myself to be a Conservative even though I condone, or better yet believe that certain humans are just created gay.

I would argue that no man or woman is created gay. much like learning a language. you are not born with a base language but learn from experience through parents and other outside influences. Or better yet, the child who grows up is not born a thief but is taught through punishment or silence whether stealing is right or wrong. check out even this fable of aesop from early Greece.

I agree with you to a point Itani, but what about the person who lies?

I know many many people who claim to be Christians and yet they continue in sin.

Is one different from another?
IYO?

thanks,
sunlover

This is a good argument only if both sinner and homosexual were to continue in their sins without regard as how their actions affect their relationship with God. This point becomes faulty when you consider a sinner who is Christian is penitent. the defining feature of a homosexual is that they have sex with those of equal gender and enjoy it and refuse to quit. to claim both christian and homosexual is contradictory because they conflict with eachothers focus.

Wow…I guess fat people can’t be Christians either then

to be fat in itself is not sinful. gluttony however is. Fat people can be christians. its ok.lol

Aren't you the same guy that says God sees masturbation as a huge sin when not found in the Bible? rofl.

Lev 15:2 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When any man, hath a running issue out of his flesh, because of his issue he is unclean.

 

[davedjy]

You can validate all you want but the bible is very clear about God's stance on homosexuality.

1. Lev. 18:22, "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination."
2. Lev. 20:13, "If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltness is upon them."
3. 1 Cor. 6:9-10, "Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals1, 10nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, shall inherit the kingdom of God."
4. Rom. 1:26-28, "For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, 27and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error. 28And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper."

Those are very biased translations. The NIV and Modern translations are very clear on homosexuality.

The Leviticus arguments fall into the trash because they are not moral violations, but from purity code violations.
Romans 1 "For this cause", read verse 23, it's about idolatry to a pagan God, 1 Cor 6:9 biased translation of an unknown word, meant to be masturbation by the Early Church fathers.

 

[davedjy]

I would argue that no man or woman is created gay. much like learning a language. you are not born with a base language but learn from experience through parents and other outside influences. Or better yet, the child who grows up is not born a thief but is taught through punishment or silence whether stealing is right or wrong. check out even this fable of aesop from early Greece.

Being gay is NOT a learned behavior, so I dont know what your argument is w/this. There is nothing wrong w/being gay at all, and the only thing condemned is the actual behavior, but I dont' believe that is true through biased translation error.

 

[davedjy]

to be fat in itself is not sinful. gluttony however is. Fat people can be christians. its ok.lol

Gluttony is a very common thing in the Churches. Do you see 5 billion threads in this forum about it? LOL

 

[tulc]

Lev 15:2 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When any man, hath a running issue out of his flesh, because of his issue he is unclean.

uhmmm I'm a little confused about that last part. What does that have to do with masturbation?
tulc(just curious)

 

[davedjy]

uhmmm I'm a little confused about that last part. What does that have to do with masturbation?
tulc(just curious)

People read into verses to make their points, but it seems silly doesn't it?

 

[BlessedGent]

Being gay is NOT a learned behavior, so I dont know what your argument is w/this. There is nothing wrong w/being gay at all, and the only thing condemned is the actual behavior, but I dont' believe that is true through biased translation error.

I truly do beleive it is a learned behavior. Throughout a child's life they are taught through brothers or friends about affinity towards men or women. Example, I have a good friend who has confided in me as well as I in him therefore i trust him and what he has told me concerning his experiences. As a child his parents ignored and he hung out with his daad and his uncles and his uncles' friends. both his friends and one of his uncles drew him into homosexuality as well as a few of his friends. He had the choice to look towards being straight but also had the powerful influence of his uncle towards being gay. He still struggles with feelings toward homosexuality but himself knows it to be a misleading way of life. that is my argument that behavior is learned. Sexual impulses are natural, what they're pointed toward are all influenced family and friends as well as culture. Read a psychology book sometime and look up behaviorists as well as child psychology and how they learn. I care for my friend and homosexuals and pray for them. you cannot tell me that its ok because i know for a fact what it does to those it hurts.