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Has the Biden Administration failed the World?

Discussion in 'International Politics' started by Landon Caeli, May 9, 2021.

  1. Landon Caeli

    Landon Caeli Member of the Heart of Gold Club Staff Member Trainee Supporter

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    While COVID vaccination centers in my area and around the country all close down, due to inactivity, as most everyone has been vaccinated who wants it, the Biden Administration does not export the surplus vaccines to other nations well enough apparently, according to the EU.

    So do we dare criticize Biden over this? Or is that a kind of political apostasy or blasphemy against the administration that shouldn't be tolerated?

    EU says US stand on patent virus waiver is no 'magic bullet'
     
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  2. chevyontheriver

    chevyontheriver Well-Known Member Supporter

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    We can't criticize Biden. He isn't Trump.

    One wrongheaded thing Biden did was to order way more vaccine than the USA needed, tying up manufacturing which should have been available for the rest of the world. Trump had already ordered a sufficient amount of vaccine for the USA. Biden had to do more than evil Trump, so he ordered more. What he should have done was vaccines as international aid. But he acted as a hoarder instead.

    Hey, I just criticized old Joe. I suppose I should get ready for the woke police to take me away. At least with Trump I didn't have to fear being taken away to a re-education camp by the woke police.

    We don't beat Coronavirus unless we beat it world-wide. What happens in India will come around in some new variant and bite us.
     
  3. Maria Billingsley

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    Vaccine hesitancy is a problem and the CDC warns us that we are not out of the woods. Herd amunity has not been accomplished so there is a continuing effort to get more people vaccinated. I for one am one of those that took the "wait it out and see what happens "approach. Well, time is up! I can walk in with no appointment and get my choice of which of the three I want. This just started on Friday. I will be presenting my arm on Monday and I suspect more like me will come out. This being said, "surplus" is a misnomer . Production necessary to vaccinate the U.S. adult population will be completed by June 20, 2021. This does not include children . There is no surplus at the moment.
    Now at some point there will be a surplus however, the administration has not announced one way or the other how they will handle humanitarian distribution.
    So I think it is a bit early to consider him blasphemous. Be blessed.
     
  4. Landon Caeli

    Landon Caeli Member of the Heart of Gold Club Staff Member Trainee Supporter

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    I don't believe herd immunity is actually necessary... I think a desire to achieve it is overkill.

    All I know is that I'm safe because I'm vaccinated, and if others are okay with catching it, because they don't want to be vaccinated, then that's their choice.

    ...In the meantime, there are other people in other countries desperate to get vaccinated.
     
  5. Dave G.

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    As Christians we claim and chant pro life and anti abortion. But justify a vaccine that in every case used aborted baby cells someplace in it's pipe line, either via development, testing or actually in the serum. I weigh that against 98% survival rate before taking a vaccine. I'm in no rush. The biggest issue is J&J vaccine is most prevalent here, I could have gotten that one yesterday at my local pharmacy, they had a ( yes 1) spare dose but it's the most baby rich and questioned out there.

    So if you want to check someones moral standing maybe start right at home,as usually is a very good place to begin judging !
     
  6. Percivale

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    If taking a vaccine that used those cell lines implicates you in abortion then eating anything grown in the western hemisphere implicates you in the murder of indians and the theft of their land.

    By the way people can and do criticize Biden, and nobody wants to send them to reeducation camps for it. CNN has fact check articles about him regularly.
     
  7. mindlight

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    I live in the EU - in Germany. I must admit I sympathize with the American and British approaches. Sort your own people out first and then start saving the world. It is like you are on a plane going down and the masks drop. You put your own mask on first before you help others or you pass out before you can do so.

    I suspect that the Euro politicians are doing/saying all this for two main reasons:

    1) Because they actually believe that helping everybody is the right approach and because they do not have to account directly to an EU public frustrated with the slow pace of the rollout here.

    2) Because they want to distinguish themselves from the post-Brexit British approach which has been far more effective than the European approach. EU politicians failed to negotiate contracts until the last minute, failed to make adequate preparations for rollouts in the EU, were too late beginning the process, and are now trying to scapegoat British companies like Astra Zeneca for their own failures.

    If they had gotten their rollout strategy right then people in Germany and the rest of the EU would already be vaccinated and they could then focus their production efforts on acts of benevolence around the world.
     
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  9. chevyontheriver

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    A poster is judged to be misinformed…You asked, we answered: Do the COVID-19 vaccines contain aborted fetal cells?
     
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