Has Marriage become irrelevant?

[bugkiller]

That is not biblical submission.

Hogwash!
submit - I Pet 5:5

1. to arrange under, to subordinate
   
   
2. to subject, put in subjection
   
   
3. to subject one's self, obey
   
   
4. to submit to one's control
   
   
5. to yield to one's admonition or advice
   
   
6. to obey, be subject

Yes I do understand the verse. It agrees with what you said. The problem I have yet to find this in the leadership of any church.

Heb 13:17 -

to resist no longer, but to give way, yield (of combatants)

I Cor 16 is very interesting on this.

bugkiller

 

[jovanovic]

christian males wants to marry, but christian women do not want too. christian woman wants relationships with atheists, satanists and muslims. the few christian women who wants a marriage always ends up with a divorce after 2 months beacuse she feelt the need to meet a new guy.

 

[bugkiller]

christian males wants to marry, but christian women do not want too. christian woman wants relationships with atheists, satanists and muslims. the few christian women who wants a marriage always ends up with a divorce after 2 months beacuse she feelt the need to meet a new guy.

Righteous males are not much fun.
Er let me rephrase that - Religious Christian males are not much fun.

bugkiller

 

[jovanovic]

Righteous males are not much fun.
Er let me rephrase that - Religious Christian males are not much fun.

bugkiller

yeah women want a funny man with tattoes.

 

[ViaCrucis]

I have spent years volunteering as a chaplain, going to prisons and jails and nursing homes doing the great commission while living strictly on my on disabled social security. Spending all my time and all my money advancing the gospel while many others sit in church keeping the pews warm and talking about things like this thread. Let me advise you sir, I was elected to pastor this church by a Holy Spirit filled church body.
I was elected because I have a passion for sharing the Gospel and I live what I preach. I am sincere in my love first for God and then for everyone else.
I have made GOD my everything and I have devoted my life to helping in any area that HE seeks to place me.
You do not understand our particular church bodies situation, and simply put, you have no right whatsoever to say anything as to what I am qualified to do.
GOD Qualifies the called, He doesn't call the qualified.
This is my last post here, because I have much better things to do, such as go pray for others
{Which the atheist above sure aren't doing} and try to build on the kingdom of God NOT tear it down.
SO in the late words of Mr Paul Harvey GOOD DAY!

Saying "I'm important" doesn't negate the fact that pastoral oversight is necessary for a healthy, functioning community. If the buck stops at you, then you have entirely too much power in your congregation.

As a humble servant of the Church, you are accountable and subject to the Church, not just to God. When someone says they are accountable only to God, that's when cults happen.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[Dave-W]

When someone says they are accountable only to God, that's when cults happen.

Absolutely.

 

[Southernscotty]

Just so that everyone knows. I have an Elder in the Church that I submit too.
We worship as non denominational, for the very reasons listed here.
We come together as a body and love Christ and each other.

 

[Noxot]

trying to resist the urge to say I am only accountable to God.

 

[Southernscotty]

Saying "I'm important" doesn't negate the fact that pastoral oversight is necessary for a healthy, functioning community. If the buck stops at you, then you have entirely too much power in your congregation.

As a humble servant of the Church, you are accountable and subject to the Church, not just to God. When someone says they are accountable only to God, that's when cults happen.

I meant to quote this above. I submit to God in everything I do and this will always be before I submit to any man. However I am held accountable by an Elder in my church and he checks everything I do by scripture.
I guess we are a "cult" by today's standards because don't put so much emphasis on voting and putting people in their "proper" places. We just let God lead our hearts.
Also another thing that might curl your toes, We are not a 501c3 organization.
See we don't care about freebies and tax right offs. This is God's money and we send it directly to the poor and needy who need it most.
What I said about serving voluntary as chaplain and such is nothing except the Holy Spirit working through me to do the great commision as we to do.
By all standards I am a servant and more so than those who do not pastor a church. I have a great love for people and I love what I do. I consider it a blessing and great honor.

 

[Southernscotty]

trying to resist the urge to say I am only accountable to God.

Go right ahead :] I only bow before God and I only worry and fear His judgement.
I do submit my teachings to my Elder for the fact that I respect this great scholar of the Word, and I believe this to be the correct way to do things.
And I'm happy to receive correction when I am wrong.
{When it is Godly correction and given in respect}. :]

 

[Dave-W]

Do people no longer see it as a life-long commitment or something of importance?

In this day and age, many do not.

I support the death penalty for all adultrous or premarital sex.

I bet that would change opinions if it was enforced.

Leviticus 20:10
‘If there is a man who commits adultery with another man’s wife, one who commits adultery with his friend’s wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.

 

[Paidiske]

christian males wants to marry, but christian women do not want too. christian woman wants relationships with atheists, satanists and muslims. the few christian women who wants a marriage always ends up with a divorce after 2 months beacuse she feelt the need to meet a new guy.

My observation is that most people want to marry, or at least experience committed loving relationship. If Christian women are avoiding (some) Christian men, it's because the men they're avoiding are domineering, controlling and often abusive; not wanting an equal partner in life but a doormat or a servant.

Most Christian women know God didn't create us to be doormats, and we reject that false image of marriage in favour of something much more wholesome and godly.

Arrogance in a husband is no better than arrogance in a pastor; the belief that "I'm better than you" or "I have the right to make decisions for you" - that sort of thing - it's toxic.

 

[jovanovic]

My observation is that most people want to marry, or at least experience committed loving relationship. If Christian women are avoiding (some) Christian men, it's because the men they're avoiding are domineering, controlling and often abusive; not wanting an equal partner in life but a doormat or a servant.

Most Christian women know God didn't create us to be doormats, and we reject that false image of marriage in favour of something much more wholesome and godly.

Arrogance in a husband is no better than arrogance in a pastor; the belief that "I'm better than you" or "I have the right to make decisions for you" - that sort of thing - it's toxic.

but how do you explain that the vast majority of christian women are married to non-christians. christian women have forsaken christian males.

non-christian males see women as nothing more than a sex-object, and you call these non-christian males to have honor? they have zero honor and morale.

 

[Desk trauma]

In this day and age, many do not.

I support the death penalty for all adultrous or premarital sex.

I bet that would change opinions if it was enforced.

Leviticus 20:10
‘If there is a man who commits adultery with another man’s wife, one who commits adultery with his friend’s wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.

Killing the majority of the population would change a great deal more than options.

 

[Paidiske]

but how do you explain that the vast majority of christian women are married to non-christians. christian women have forsaken christian males.

That doesn't fit with what I see around me.

But where Christian women are finding Christian men unsuitable life partners, perhaps those men ought to ask themselves why?

non-christian males see women as nothing more than a sex-object, and you call these non-christian males to have honor? they have zero honor and morale.

I married a Christian man, but even I can see that this kind of blanket flaming of non-Christians is false.

 

[jovanovic]

That doesn't fit with what I see around me.

But where Christian women are finding Christian men unsuitable life partners, perhaps those men ought to ask themselves why?



I married a Christian man, but even I can see that this kind of blanket flaming of non-Christians is false.

they say they hope to make them christian etc, but they never have any sucess. bible tells us to marry christians not pagans.

nope its not false, the left and pagans are very much focused on sex. many pagans have threesomes with their christian wife.

 

[Go Braves]

Do people no longer see it as a life-long commitment or something of importance?

Sure, plenty of folks do. I do. Not married yet but plan on it in the future.

 

[bugkiller]

yeah women want a funny man with tattoes.

Yeah many of them only want to party.

bugkiller

 

[bugkiller]

My observation is that most people want to marry, or at least experience committed loving relationship. If Christian women are avoiding (some) Christian men, it's because the men they're avoiding are domineering, controlling and often abusive; not wanting an equal partner in life but a doormat or a servant.

Most Christian women know God didn't create us to be doormats, and we reject that false image of marriage in favour of something much more wholesome and godly.

Arrogance in a husband is no better than arrogance in a pastor; the belief that "I'm better than you" or "I have the right to make decisions for you" - that sort of thing - it's toxic.

Essentially what I have witnessed is the male must say "yes dear" to get along. What is different about being the boss? What is God's program?

bugkiller

 

[bugkiller]

That doesn't fit with what I see around me.

But where Christian women are finding Christian men unsuitable life partners, perhaps those men ought to ask themselves why?



I married a Christian man, but even I can see that this kind of blanket flaming of non-Christians is false.

I respectfully disagree.

bugkiller