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I've been talking to my mother she says I have no joy and I'm always doomy and gloomy. And that I'm dark and act like a democrat uniparty person and I make her an enemy and says I am combative confrontational and argumentative. I've asked in response how I do this and I get an answer in the form of her getting upset and not really telling me how. Does this mean God has refused to regenerate and transform my heart even though I've called out to him to do so? I am confused and battered down after this conversation. It seems like someone needs to lock me up somewhere and just throw away the key. It sounds to me like I'm not a saved born again Christian at all and that I am just a demonic messenger. It sounds like I might be a goat or maybe even the Anti-Christ Beast of revelation. I would like to change this what can I do?
 
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I've been talking to my mother she says I have no joy and I'm always doomy and gloomy. And that I'm dark and act like a democrat uniparty person and I make her an enemy and says I am combative confrontational and argumentative. I've asked in response how I do this and I get an answer in the form of her getting upset and not really telling me how. Does this mean God has refused to regenerate and transform my heart even though I've called out to him to do so? I am confused and battered down after this conversation. It seems like someone needs to lock me up somewhere and just throw away the key. It sounds to me like I'm not a saved born again Christian at all and that I am just a demonic messenger. It sounds like I might be a goat or maybe even the Anti-Christ Beast of revelation. I would like to change this what can I do?
2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not willing for any to perish, but for all to come to repentance.

"not WILLING for ANY to perish"

John 3:16 "God so loved the WORLD" that HE GAVE His only Son to die for you -- if you were the only person on planet Earth -- God would still have given His Son to die FOR YOU.

How then can you dare to say "He does not care for me"???

No one (And I mean no one) has done anything remotely as costly and dedicated for you personally - as God has done! And that includes your mother - she has never come close to the sacrifice and love for you as God has for you. Hear HIM. He has earned your attention.

Steps to Christ -- the small book that tells more about God's Love for you -

Steps to Christ

Read that tiny little book prayerfully.
 
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2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not willing for any to perish, but for all to come to repentance.

"not WILLING for ANY to perish"

John 3:16 "God so loved the WORLD" that HE GAVE His only Son to die for you -- if you were the only person on planet Earth -- God would still have given His Son to die FOR YOU.

How then can you dare to say "He does not care for me"???

No one (And I mean no one) has done anything remotely as costly and dedicated for you personally - as God has done! And that includes your mother - she has never come close to the sacrifice and love for you as God has for you. Hear HIM. He has earned your attention.

Steps to Christ -- the small book that tells more about God's Love for you -

Steps to Christ

Read that tiny little book prayerfully.
Who is Ellen G White?
 
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It sounds like I might be a goat or maybe even the Anti-Christ Beast of revelation. I would like to change this what can I do?
What makes you think you're the AC/Beast of Revelation specifically?
 
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What makes you think you're the AC/Beast of Revelation specifically?
Well since im the most horrible nasty person who claims to follow Christ my mom said im the reason she doesn't go to church and I turn her off of "religion". To me it sounds like I am fake and just need to stop going to church stop reading my bibles and stop listening to Christian radio programs and music and stop trying to follow Christ all together cause it sounds like im just going through the motions. Sounds like the Anti-Christ beast of revelation to me.
 
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I've been talking to my mother she says I have no joy and I'm always doomy and gloomy. And that I'm dark and act like a democrat uniparty person and I make her an enemy and says I am combative confrontational and argumentative. I've asked in response how I do this and I get an answer in the form of her getting upset and not really telling me how. Does this mean God has refused to regenerate and transform my heart even though I've called out to him to do so? I am confused and battered down after this conversation. It seems like someone needs to lock me up somewhere and just throw away the key. It sounds to me like I'm not a saved born again Christian at all and that I am just a demonic messenger. It sounds like I might be a goat or maybe even the Anti-Christ Beast of revelation. I would like to change this what can I do?
Well take out that book with BIBLE on the cover or holy bible? Look up John 3:16 and read it. Who ever believes in Him.. are saved. Old Testament says everyone that calls on the name of the lord shall be saved. All you have to do is ask. Everyone of us that believe in Jesus Christ its not based on how we FEEL. I do not feel saved.. I feel lost God left me blah blah blah. Yet I am old enough in the faith to know those thoughts feelings are not from God God cannot lie. So read it believe and that's it no matter what you feel YOU ARE forever HIS! He will never ever ever leave you.. the world will but HE WILL NEVER leave you. You really need to know that.. He loves you.. never mad at you.. you alone are the reason He came.. Yeah.. Hes GOD He can do that.. He came for you..
 
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Who is Ellen G White?
She is a Christian that was born in the Mid-1800's and wrote dozens of Christian books. That free online book Steps to Christ highlights the life-giving power of the Gospel and the power of prayer to change one's life.

There is another very well known book that is also translated into many languages and distributed around the world just like the book I posted above. The second book is larger and is a commentary on the life of Christ called "The Desire of Ages"
Desire of Ages

If you allow your mind to focus on the Gospel and the Life of Christ - it will change your life completely and remove your depression.
 
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Well since im the most horrible nasty person who claims to follow Christ my mom said im the reason she doesn't go to church and I turn her off of "religion"
Sounds like her problem. She's just offloading blame on you, which isn't fair. We are all responsible for our own decisions.
 
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...This persons thread is Just another example of churches teaching the gospel of doubt. Time and time again on this site people are struggling to be saved or believe they can not be save. Which is a result of the works based salvation being taught in most denominations which saves no one. So no wonder there are multitudes of people who are like the starter of this thread, believing they are some lost soul headed to hell.

... Which they may be if they are trusting in these work based salvation teachings, instead of believing in Jesus for God's free gift of Eternal Life salvation.
 
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...This persons thread is Just another example of churches teaching the gospel of doubt. Time and time again on this site people are struggling to be saved or believe they can not be save. Which is a result of the works based salvation being taught in most denominations which saves no one. So no wonder there are multitudes of people who are like the starter of this thread, believing they are some lost soul headed to hell.

... Which they may be if they are trusting in these work based salvation teachings, instead of believing in Jesus for God's free gift of Eternal Life salvation.
a great many people in a great many denominations have the assurance of salvation. And in those same denominations you can find others who do not have it.

But the answer is in direct relationship with God - it is not a gimmick where one claims God is stuck in a box/contract thinking that even if one lives like the devil after accepting Christ - it won't matter. Matt 7 "not everyone who SAYS 'Lord Lord' to Me will enter the kingdom of heaven but rather the one who DOES the will of the Father". Matt 18 "I forgave you ALL of that debt - should you not have forgiven others as I forgave you?"

Rom 8:16 says that our assurance comes from God the Holy Spirit "bearing witness with our spirit that we ARE the children of God" - not a gimmick but rather a relationship, a real interaction.

Rom 8:12 So then, brothers and sisters, we are under obligation, not to the flesh, to live according to the flesh— 13 for if you are living in accord with the flesh, you are going to die; but if by the Spirit you are putting to death the deeds of the body, you will live. 14 For all who are being led by the Spirit of God, these are sons and daughters of God. 15 For you have not received a spirit of slavery leading to fear again, but you have received a spirit of adoption as sons and daughters by which we cry out, “Abba! Father!” 16 The Spirit Himself testifies with our spirit that we are children of God

2 Cor 13:5 Test yourselves to see if you are in the faith; examine yourselves! Or do you not recognize this about yourselves, that Jesus Christ is in you—unless indeed you fail the test?

1 John 2:3 By this we know that we have come to know Him, if we keep His commandments. 4 The one who says, “I have come to know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him; 5 but whoever follows His word, in him the love of God has truly been perfected. By this we know that we are in Him: 6 the one who says that he remains in Him ought, himself also, walk just as He walked.

1 John 2:1 My little children, I am writing these things to you so that you may not sin. And if anyone sins, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous

1 John 1:9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous, so that He will forgive us our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
 
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I've been talking to my mother she says I have no joy and I'm always doomy and gloomy. And that I'm dark and act like a democrat uniparty person and I make her an enemy and says I am combative confrontational and argumentative. I've asked in response how I do this and I get an answer in the form of her getting upset and not really telling me how. Does this mean God has refused to regenerate and transform my heart even though I've called out to him to do so? I am confused and battered down after this conversation. It seems like someone needs to lock me up somewhere and just throw away the key. It sounds to me like I'm not a saved born again Christian at all and that I am just a demonic messenger. It sounds like I might be a goat or maybe even the Anti-Christ Beast of revelation. I would like to change this what can I do?
Issues with parents who criticize has nothing to do with your salvation however, doubting your salvation, which sounds like you do, would eventually become a problem with your walk. When you walk with Him in confidence His Holy Spirit will help you with the weakness of the flesh and fill your heart with love. This is His promise to us. Never doubt. Be blessed.
 
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Well since im the most horrible nasty person who claims to follow Christ my mom said im the reason she doesn't go to church and I turn her off of "religion". To me it sounds like I am fake and just need to stop going to church stop reading my bibles and stop listening to Christian radio programs and music and stop trying to follow Christ all together cause it sounds like im just going through the motions. Sounds like the Anti-Christ beast of revelation to me.
- Parents are supposed to set the example in following Christ rather than expect their children to set the example.

- Parents are supposed to encourage their children rather than criticize them.

- Even if you were truly doomy and gloomy, your mother's responsibility would be to accompany you to a physician/psychiatrist.

But do not blame your mother. She likely has problems of her own. You continue following Christ and trusting Him and perhaps seek medical advice if you feel anxious or depressed.
 
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I've been talking to my mother she says I have no joy and I'm always doomy and gloomy.
Maybe you're depressed?
Have you talked to your doctor to see if there is a medical reason for this\/
And that I'm dark and act like a democrat uniparty person and I make her an enemy
How do you "make her an enemy"?
Is that correct, or does your mother always require people to like and agree with her?

I've asked in response how I do this and I get an answer in the form of her getting upset and not really telling me how.
You've asked a reasonable question about something that she's said, yet she's getting upset and not telling you?
Either she doesn't know or, for some reason, doesn't want to help you.

Does this mean God has refused to regenerate and transform my heart even though I've called out to him to do so?
No.

I am confused and battered down after this conversation.
I'm not surprised. :hug:

It seems like someone needs to lock me up somewhere and just throw away the key.
Why would they need to do that?
It sounds to me like I'm not a saved born again Christian at all and that I am just a demonic messenger. It sounds like I might be a goat or maybe even the Anti-Christ Beast of revelation.
It sounds like you might be depressed/sad and that your mother, for whatever reason, is not able to recognise this and get you help.

I would like to change this what can I do?
Anyone who was a demonic messenger or "the beast of Revelation" who not be asking for advice in a Christian forum and saying that they wanted to change.

You might get a more realistic picture if you chatted with a doctor/counsellor/church minister, rather than your mother. If you were in need of medical, or spiritual, help, they would make sure that you got it.
 
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Well since im the most horrible nasty person who claims to follow Christ my mom said im the reason she doesn't go to church and I turn her off of "religion".
No, if your mum - a grown woman - chooses not to go to church, that is her decision. It's not something you have "made" her do.
To me it sounds like I am fake and just need to stop going to church stop reading my bibles and stop listening to Christian radio programs and music and stop trying to follow Christ all together
Why?
You want to stop reading the Bible and following Christ because your mother decides to blame you for her not going to church?
cause it sounds like im just going through the motions. Sounds like the Anti-Christ beast of revelation to me.
No. If you were the Anti-Christ, you would be Anti Christ.
You would not go anywhere near a Bible. You would not even think of following Christ, in fact, you'd hate him. And you certainly wouldn't want to change, ask Christians for help or call out to God to transform your heart.

You might be depressed and/or be having problems in your Christian walk - it doesn't mean you're evil and beyond help.
 
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I don't have joy and the others you mentioned much and neither do others i know and they are Christians. I do believe that what your mind is about creates joy. Think kind and loving thoughts as much as you can and eventually what is inward will show outward.
 
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James chapter 1, All wisdom and knowledge comes from God. Start by repentance of sins to God, and study the bible. Without spirtual growth, God can't use someone to plant seeds, its sharing Gods truth with others. Those who refuse to do God's will, are outside of God's protection and blessings. Mark chapter 3, Jesus says, its those who do will of God, that are My brethren. Get the picture. Discipline is the key. Allow God to help you with patterns. Like possible anger or hate or jealousy or anything negative. God can't work with hard clay. God works only with soft clay. Jeremiah chapter 18, The potter's house. God is the potter, and Israel the clay. God can marr and mold soft clay. You must submit to God's will, and not be resistant. Jesus can transform you from within. Its your choice what path you choose. Those outside Gods sanctuary, are following satan and going to hell. Think it over. Peace.
 
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