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LynnMcG

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I can speak as a parent and former witch to explain why I will never allow my children to read or watch Harry Potter. It's pretty simple, Harry Potter teaches and promotes magic which is against the Word of God.

You know how the bible tells us the path is narrow? That means in order to walk in the Lord we must make some tough decisions to do the right thing, which is not easy. But we also know how great our reward is. Satan offers an incredibly wide path that allows for just about anything and his way is really easy to follow. Once we start dabbling in little things, like watching questionable movies or reading books we're not supposed to read we start thinking well if this is ok, than maybe I can handle a little more... Before you know it, you've strayed from your walk.

I know it seems silly, to avoid a book. But that's how the enemy starts, with little things. Believe me, been there, wrecked that! And if my mom only told me not to do half the things I did when I was younger...
 
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Just my opinion as a mature Christian adult... if you were my kid I'd let you watch and read so long as I know you are reading/watching - and - so long as we discuss what is wrong with witchcraft as it pertains to the Word of God.

Galatians 5:16-22 reads:
So I say, live by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the sinful nature. For the sinful nature desires what is contrary to the Spirit, and the Spirit what is contrary to the sinful nature. They are in conflict with each other, so that you do not do what you want. But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under law.
The acts of the sinful nature are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.


You cannot practice witchcraft and be right with God. But as a mature Christian adult, while not practicing I can read a book or watch a movie and I can very easily, with knowledge of God's word, separate sin from art and not allow the sin to affect me or lead me away from Jesus. I would not trust the same in an adolescent/young adult and this is true even with a person of any age. However, if someone knows that God is against witchcraft, sorcery, spells, etc then that person can be armed against Satan trying to deceive you into thinking those things are okie dokie when in fact they sure as heck ain't! EVEN IF my child knew those things are bad I would still discuss not just once but I'd do follow-ups because people, especially at a young age, are VERY impressionable.


I've not read Harry Potter but I've seen the movies. Fantastic!!! I'd hate to take that away from someone who is responsible to know right from wrong, someone who wants to always abide by God's word and please him all the time.


That's just my 2¢
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LynnMcG said:
I can speak as a parent and former witch to explain why I will never allow my children to read or watch Harry Potter. It's pretty simple, Harry Potter teaches and promotes magic which is against the Word of God.

You know how the bible tells us the path is narrow? That means in order to walk in the Lord we must make some tough decisions to do the right thing, which is not easy. But we also know how great our reward is. Satan offers an incredibly wide path that allows for just about anything and his way is really easy to follow. Once we start dabbling in little things, like watching questionable movies or reading books we're not supposed to read we start thinking well if this is ok, than maybe I can handle a little more... Before you know it, you've strayed from your walk.

I know it seems silly, to avoid a book. But that's how the enemy starts, with little things. Believe me, been there, wrecked that! And if my mom only told me not to do half the things I did when I was younger...

I realize that witchcraft (the real kind) is not a good thing. However the magic in Harry Potter is far from real. The story isn't even about magic, it's about a kid. Harry Potter does not teach witchcraft to anyone, nor does it promote it. Should we stop all things that have a hint of witchcraft or magic to it? There goes Lord of the Rings. I've read all the HP books and yet I have never once tried witchcraft or gotten a message of promotion from the story, none of my friends or anyone I know has either. When I see kids who know the difference between reality and fiction trying to get brooms to fly by saying up, then I will worry.

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RobWW said:
Should we stop all things that have a hint of witchcraft or magic to it?

Some Christians will actually say very firmly: YES. Also any movie or tv show or book with any hint of sin of any kind. Personally, I don't subscribe to that point of view. Kids need supervision and the teaching of a parental unit, or anyone impressionable needs the same, needs to know what's what, what's right v. wrong. There are many adults who won't watch Rated R movies and why I'm not exactly sure when many are wonderful pieces of art. Me, I can watch 'em and I do. I don't love watching sin on screen but I can separate sin from good cinematography. It's about being mature and having God on your side to not let the sin affect you. If you feel you're starting to sin yourself, or considering sinning or letting sinful thoughts permeate your brain cells and your soul, it could be a result of being exposed to it in film, books, anywhere. That type of person needs to be careful and back away. Others can handle it. Kids especially, like I said, need the supervision/teaching/reinforcement to know what's wrong in what they read or see.
 
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ChrisWinston said:
Some Christians will actually say very firmly: YES. Also any movie or tv show or book with any hint of sin of any kind. Personally, I don't subscribe to that point of view. Kids need supervision and the teaching of a parental unit, or anyone impressionable needs the same, needs to know what's what, what's right v. wrong. There are many adults who won't watch Rated R movies and why I'm not exactly sure when many are wonderful pieces of art. Me, I can watch 'em and I do. I don't love watching sin on screen but I can separate sin from good cinematography. It's about being mature and having God on your side to not let the sin affect you. If you feel you're starting to sin yourself, or considering sinning or letting sinful thoughts permeate your brain cells and your soul, it could be a result of being exposed to it in film, books, anywhere. That type of person needs to be careful and back away. Others can handle it. Kids especially, like I said, need the supervision/teaching/reinforcement to know what's wrong in what they read or see.

I also think that if the parent's do their job right, then the child will be able to tell the difference between what is real and what is fake, and what is good and what is not. If the parent's explain to their yougn children that HP magic is not real, and that witchcraft in real life is not a good thing then they should be able to watch HP without it affecting them too much. If it does affect them, then the parent must take the necessary action, either talking with them or by not allowing them to watch Harry Potter or whatever it may be.

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RippinMicsFoChrist said:
i hate it when kids say that "they dont believe it's real" in they own defense ..........and i'm like "it is real..........so have nothing to do with it. "

There is a big difference between Harry Potter witchcraft and real witchcraft. Do you really think that someone can make something levitate by saying levioso and flicking a wand? Or make a broom fly by saying up?

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Well my dad told me and my sister long ago never to touch Harry Potter books or watch it. His dad was a pastor (we're Presbyterian) and my dad firmly lays down the law according to the Scripture. If he says we can't do, read, or watch something, we don't. I have heard about them and even read the first sentence of book one and have never been interested in it anyways. I agree HP witchcraft is not real witchcraft, but people who don't know any better can and will stray far from the Path by being encouraged by being exposed to that sort of thing.

that's my 2 cents.

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RobWW said:
There is a big difference between Harry Potter witchcraft and real witchcraft. Do you really think that someone can make something levitate by saying levioso and flicking a wand? Or make a broom fly by saying up?

-Rob

Believe it or not, people can do it, well the demons within them can. If you belive in the power of God, then you better know that the power of evil is very real also. Harry Potter magic may look all flashy, but in a nut shell, that evil is real.

1 Corinthians 6:12 - 12“Everything is permissible for me”–but not everything is beneficial. “Everything is permissible for me”–but I will not be mastered by anything.

Can you can see Christ watching or reading it? Cause when you do, and you are a Christian, Christ also does for He is in you. What is wrong is wrong, and what glorifies God is right.
 
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I realize that witchcraft (the real kind) is not a good thing. However the magic in Harry Potter is far from real. The story isn't even about magic, it's about a kid. Harry Potter does not teach witchcraft to anyone, nor does it promote it. Should we stop all things that have a hint of witchcraft or magic to it? There goes Lord of the Rings. I've read all the HP books and yet I have never once tried witchcraft or gotten a message of promotion from the story, none of my friends or anyone I know has either. When I see kids who know the difference between reality and fiction trying to get brooms to fly by saying up, then I will worry.

-Rob

First of all, the magic in Harry Potter may or not be real (I'm not sure) however, there have been testimonies from Harry Potter readers that state that after they read the book they went out and researched more on witchcraft and try it on a regular basis. And this is what is wrong with the book.

Harry Potter is a wolf in sheep's clothing. It seems like a harmless, innocent book, but it opens the world of witchcraft to young people and they get drawn into witchcraft, which against God. This world is one of deception and betrayal. WITCHCRAFT IS AGAINST GOD AND WE SHOULD NOT HAVE A HINT OF SIN IN US.

We must also look at the fact that even if we don't stumble because of the book, we might have someone else that we know stumble in the face of this book. And that is a bigger sin then us stumbling ourselves; to let someone else stumble and fall into the pit of witchcraft and darkness.

If you have questions on why LOR isn't bad, there is a wonderful book out there that would help answer your questions.

Hope this has helped! God Bless.
 
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There have been testimonies of Bible readers who strayed from Christianity because of some things in the Bible, and none of us are going to say that we should stay away from that. I never said that magic isn't real, I specifically stated that HARRY POTTER magic is not the real kind of witchcraft that occurs in the real world. Who did Christ stay among during his time on Earth? There was sin around him all the time, and tell me when he sinned. He did not hide from sin, but he did not partake in sin either.

If I know enough to understand that real witchcraft is not glorifying to God, then why is it a problem that I read a decent story about a kid and his friends? It's not like Harry Potter is the manual for witchcraft.
I've seen these testimonies as well, heck, some of my friends explored it, but they were atheists already. My friends introduced me to it, and all my Christian friends who have read it are stronger in their faith than ever. Obviously we all won't be that strong, but if a children's book can shake someone's faith that much, how much faith did they have to begin with? Harry Potter is not a "gate-way book" that leads to more dangerous thing for every single person, I would imagine it is actually the minority that are affected in such a way.

This is also where parenting comes into play. If a parent knows enough to understand that true witchcraft is harmful and evil, then they can tell their child that real witchcraft is not something to be taken lightly. If they see their kid expressing an interest in real witchcraft then they should first look at themselves and see if they taught their child well enough, and then maybe take the book away. Harry Potter is not as harmful as it is made out to be. If you are swayed by a fictional book it's time to take a look in the mirror at the person you are.


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RobWW said:
It's pretty much harmless, unless you can't tell the difference between reality and fiction and think that by saying 'Up!' to a broom you can make it fly, leviosum makes things fly etc

-Rob

Agreed, though I'm not a fan or anything since I think it's quit childish.
 
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Idicious said:
Agreed, though I'm not a fan or anything since I think it's quit childish.

Me too, but the younger kids that are if they can tell the difference like I could at 13 when I liked stuff like that then they should be okay.

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I'm not going to sit here and argue... but i would like to leave with stating that just because this world doesn't have a problem with Harry Potter and if we think that it isn't a big deal, that is when we let satan come into our lives.

Reading Harry Potter whether you believe it or not is irrelivent. When you read Harry Potter, you support the book and it's selling. And we are to be free from any hint of sin and not partake in the sin of this world. Harry Potter is the beginning stone to a much greater and real power that exists. And partaking in the book only beginnings to declare and sustain the witchcraft that is not supported by God and is hate by Him.

It is your decision what u choose for your life...but remember..it is not you who lives, but Christ that lives in you. Do you think that Christ likes your mind to be exposed to "safe witchcraft" as some call it.

As for me and my house, I will serve the Lord only! I will not let the pushing of society ruin my relationship with Christ. God does not support Harry Potter and hates the very fact that His children would look twice at it.

I know how good of a book it is, because, I have read it several years ago. But by doing a little searching and by God working in my life I have realized that this little innocent book, as you call it, is the beginning of the acceptance of dark forces that invade this world. We can't stop it, but we can fight it.

It makes me sad to see that there are now "self-help" books on tarot reading, palm reading, curses, spells, witchcrafts, and many other topics that God doesn't support. And what is even worse it that it is right next to Christian books and are in the reach of our little children.

To me, society continues to mock God by pursuing forces that God hates. And it all starts with little books like Harry Potter. We have to realize that this world is not ours, and if we are to be effective as Christians, we are to be apart from society and not defulge in the sins of this world. We have to be extra cautious to what we say, do, see, and read.

IT IS NOT ME WHO LIVE, BUT CHRIST WHO LIVES IN ME!
AM I BEING AN EFFECTIVE WITNESS BY READING THIS INNOCENT "MAGIC" BOOK? NOOOOO!

Jesus, help us to constantly seek you and not become sinners to this world. I pray that we seek only your face and always seek to praise you in every aspect of our lifestyle. Help me to stay strong and not care what others think of my "silly attitude" towards Harry Potter. I know that you tell us to watch what we read and not indulge in the sins of this world. Please help me to seek higher things and not get caught up. And please help me be a witness to all in everything that I read, watch, speak, and write.

Thank you God for dying for me and I pray that you will fill my life with only you!
 
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I hardly think that accepting Harry Potter for what it is, a book about fictional kids, in a fictional world, in a fictional school using FICTIONAL magic, that we are letting Satan into our lives. Taking part in REAL witchcraft is letting Satan in, if you cannot tell the difference between reality and fiction you shouldn't read it, it's that simple.


It makes me sad to see that there are now "self-help" books on tarot reading, palm reading, curses, spells, witchcrafts, and many other topics that God doesn't support. And what is even worse it that it is right next to Christian books and are in the reach of our little children

Maybe the children should be watched by their parents? If the parents educate their children about what is good, and what is not there should be no problem.

-Rob
 
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Yeah. I've read all the books, and only seen the first two movies though. Personally, I enjoyed them. There is a point where too much is going overboard, but so far it's pretty harmless as long as the reader understands it is fantasy. As someone who will soon be teaching in schools, I will allow my students to read Harry Potter, as long as they know it's fake, make believe. Just like the Chronicles of Narnia (sp). I can't make that decision for you, it is up to you and your parents to decide. Have they actually read the books themselves??
 
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I have heard about them and even read the first sentence of book one and have never been interested in it anyways.

Oh yea, the first sentence of the book really tells a lot about the book as a whole.


I'm sorry that you're miss out. Harry Potter is a harmless book and it is very entertaining. I've read all of them (some of them twice) and my head isn't spinning. ;)
 
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