What we are seeing with the Harry Potter movies and books is a seduction of young people into the world of magic and evil by dark seducing spirits. What do seducing spirits do? They seduce--and they are very good at it. It's the same with the Harry Potter magic as it is with pornography and drugs and Halloween, the so-called "Innocent" demon celebration. What seducing spirits do is start with pretend innocence--"oh, it's just a little harmless magic;" or "it's just soft-porn;" or "it's just a little weed;" or "Halloween is just an innocent holiday." Once they get people on the hook, then they draw them deeper and deeper into the seduction of spiritual darkness. From what I've heard, the latest Harry Potter movie was the darkest one yet. For Christians, participating in these things is like throwing "just a little incense" on the altars of these idols...It may seem innocent, but innocent-looking demons are still deadly demons... I no longer participate in Halloween and continue to refuse to watch the Harry Potter movies.
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"HARRY POTTER" SEDUCTION
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Sorry to disagree : I liked all the Harry Potter films sofar. Yes they do have to do with wizards and monsters. But hey, when me and you were young did you not watch the old disney movies : even snowwhite has a witch (who scared me when I was little) ! Mary Poppins had also magic, even Mickey has been a wizard....
Also today Harry Potter is not turned into evil but has to overcome his fear and face evil.
Yes I agree that it is more explicit and realistically portrayed but society today has become more demanding to get in-your-face material. (see reality Tv, Jerry Springer etc). Even the cartoons have become more violent or full of magic (Fairly odd parents)
I do agree with you on the point that children that are already attracted to evil can find ground in these films to enhance the attraction to evil but to say that innocent children will be seduced to the dark side is a bit too far.
For me I would tell my children that this portreys a young hero who did not choose it but has to fight evil and has to rely on his wits and his friends. It is indeed not only magic that saves him but also his friends.
Though me too sometimes I wish they would reduce the amount of violence etc on TV, and show more childfriendly programs and cartoons, I cannot see that ever changing again to the good old days when I was young.
So the best is to be more aware and critical when watching such things. I tend to follow the age-guidelines on them for my children. Banning films to children is maybe an option, but it could make them even more curious for it or what if at school they start talking about it ?
Also today Harry Potter is not turned into evil but has to overcome his fear and face evil.
Yes I agree that it is more explicit and realistically portrayed but society today has become more demanding to get in-your-face material. (see reality Tv, Jerry Springer etc). Even the cartoons have become more violent or full of magic (Fairly odd parents)
I do agree with you on the point that children that are already attracted to evil can find ground in these films to enhance the attraction to evil but to say that innocent children will be seduced to the dark side is a bit too far.
For me I would tell my children that this portreys a young hero who did not choose it but has to fight evil and has to rely on his wits and his friends. It is indeed not only magic that saves him but also his friends.
Though me too sometimes I wish they would reduce the amount of violence etc on TV, and show more childfriendly programs and cartoons, I cannot see that ever changing again to the good old days when I was young.
So the best is to be more aware and critical when watching such things. I tend to follow the age-guidelines on them for my children. Banning films to children is maybe an option, but it could make them even more curious for it or what if at school they start talking about it ?
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I watch harry potter. I'm fourteen. I have read all the books, and am about to watch the movie (it hasn't come out over in Korea at the army base, and I don't wanna boot-leg it). My dad is a baptist chaplain and he lets me. And no, I don't want to use magic, sure it would make things more convenient (like washing the dishes without much effort), but if God doesn't want it, then neither do I.
So you are right that people that don't know God may start to look into it, but not every teenager and child that sees harry potter wants to learn magic or anything...
So you are right that people that don't know God may start to look into it, but not every teenager and child that sees harry potter wants to learn magic or anything...
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What does this have to do with new forum suggest? The reason the new one was so dark because it was about more mature topics like war, murder and love. It wasn't dark in the devil sorta of way. Anyways, from what I heard JK Rowlings is a christian so I doubt she would make a book that is evil. Harry Potter is about a kid overcoming trouble, evil and finding his own way. Harry Potter isn't the reason kids are turning from GOD. I know some kids turn from GOD because they are told everything they like and do is evil. There are already so many topics on Harry Potter, you might like to post your opinion there.
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I noticed that after I posted, that this was in a totally wrong forum for the topic of this post.
Ummm... yeah, from reading her comments at her website, she sounds like a christian, and not because she is nice, but because of how she says the stuff. You can check it out if you want!
Ummm... yeah, from reading her comments at her website, she sounds like a christian, and not because she is nice, but because of how she says the stuff. You can check it out if you want!
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Harrythepizzaguy said:
Hahahahaha! Wow, that just made my day. Hilarious.
Well, I would say these types of things don't convert anyone to witchcraft and such, but they may lead people who are already drawn to it to take more of an interest. My young cousin has already had an interest in magic and such since he was little; he's completely obsessed with Harry Potter and told me he's converted to "witchcraft." I find it humourous, but hey, a kid's gotta experiment.
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Dude, as if there aren't 5,000 "Harry Potter is Evil" threads on these boards, with five or more new ones opening each day. I reccomend you go to one of those and commisserate with like-minded people.
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Dude--you made my day.... your reply really cracked me up--- But I'm standing my ground on the "HARRY POTTER IS EVIL" debate... MUAH HA HA HA HA HA HA HAHeyHomie said:
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Harrythepizzaguy said:
Would you same the same about the old "Bewitched" TV series? Do you seriously belive even a child is so ignorant to think a spell can be made with such items as "eye of newt"? Do you know that Billy Graham endorses Harry potter and says the "make believe magic in Harry potter in no way resembles real witchcraft? Children have sense enough to know what is pretend. I have never heard of a single case of anyone being led into the occult because of Bewitched and I would not believe anything the likes of Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell have to say about anything! Do you feel the same about "Fairy Tales"? Harry Potter is make believe!
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I totally disagree. It's called fantasy for a reason! The Narnia books and LOTR books have magic to, so does that make C.S. Lewis and J.R.R. Tolkien (both who were Christians) seducing spirits?!?!!?
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PorcelainHeart
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This thread just gives Harry Potter more promtion. The worse thing you can do is call it evil, because people might read it to see what all the evil is about. If you don't like Harry Potter keep quite about it. Talking about it gives the book promotion and makes people more aware of it.
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I've read all of the books and nothing in them makes me worried that my kids or I would be led astray. However, the new movie is not on my younger children's allowed to wathc list, only my 14 yera old is old enough. It was quite dark compared to the previous movies.
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AirForceTeacher said:
yeah, when I went some lady had brought her 5 yr old and had to grab his eyes during the parts were the badness was going down (and during the bath scene, lol). not a movie for the youngsters, this one.
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savvy said:
Well it's rated PG-13 for a reason.... the stories grow with the characters.. I never viewed them as stories for very young children.
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Harrythepizzaguy said:
Harry Potter magic is about as real as Mickey Mouse throwing his wand around and making brooms dance.
Maybe when God was passing out on imaginations you skipped out?
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I would like to add also...that just because a script writer wrote it..doesn't mean AT ALL that they believe in it..just because someone writes about movie type magic..doesn't mean they are trying to push magic on kids.
For instance..if a writer writes about the character being reincarnated...more often than not that writer doesn't even BELIEVE in reincarnation..he writes it in because it's a good plot device. That is VERY common in hollywood. You know some of those movies that have "christian values" or whatnot...more than likely the writer doesn't even believe in any of it...he's using it as a plot device. That's it.
I was a script writer before I turned to comics. You'll find plenty of the writers political ideas thrown into movies. But when it comes to religious beliefs...they are more often than not used merely as a plot device...not a reflection of the writers beliefs.
For instance..if a writer writes about the character being reincarnated...more often than not that writer doesn't even BELIEVE in reincarnation..he writes it in because it's a good plot device. That is VERY common in hollywood. You know some of those movies that have "christian values" or whatnot...more than likely the writer doesn't even believe in any of it...he's using it as a plot device. That's it.
I was a script writer before I turned to comics. You'll find plenty of the writers political ideas thrown into movies. But when it comes to religious beliefs...they are more often than not used merely as a plot device...not a reflection of the writers beliefs.
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