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Harry Potter: Blasphemy or not?

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I personally think that Harry Potter is very blasphemous, saying that these people can perform "magic" and are therefore aere stronger than God. This is a danger to children, who are very suseptible to these things.
If I was to go into detail about Harry Potter you would absolutely freak. One thing they talk about in Harry Potter is hallucinogenic drugs.
 
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This is how I see it: witchcraft is a sin, correct? Well, so is murder, lust, blasphemy, etc. Why do Christians say it's okay to go see a movie that glorofies witchcraft, but it's not okay for movies that glorify murder, lust, etc? They're both sin, are they not?
 
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Oh my,

I am flummoxed, flabbergasted, astonished. Christians defending witchcraft? I had no idea how bad things have gotten. Satan's world religion cannot be far off. The Bible condemns witchcraft in the strongest of terms. Bible believing Christians should be the first to recognize its reality, power and danger. The passages are endless:

King James Version of the Bible
Book of Deuteronomy
Chapter 18

18:9 When thou art come into the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee, thou shalt not learn to do after the abominations of those nations.
18:10 There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch.
18:11 Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer.
18:12 For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD: and because of these abominations the LORD thy God doth drive them out from before thee.

God calls these ABOMINATIONS! The same thing he calls having sex with an animal. There is no stronger term ever used by God to condemn something. If these were just imaginary practices, then why was it necessary for God to require those nations to be UTTERLY destroyed. Because they were real:

King James Version of the Bible
Book of Exodus
Chapter 7

7:10 And Moses and Aaron went in unto Pharaoh, and they did so as the LORD had commanded: and Aaron cast down his rod before Pharaoh, and before his servants, and it became a serpent.
7:11 Then Pharaoh also called the wise men and the sorcerers: now the magicians of Egypt, they also did in like manner with their enchantments.
7:12 For they cast down every man his rod, and they became serpents: but Aaron's rod swallowed up their rods.

Witchcraft is involvement with devils, God's enemies. It is a sin that God describes as hatred for him, and he vows to punish it to the third and fourth generation:

King James Version of the Bible
Book of Exodus
Chapter 20

20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

In Acts the people turned from their sins of witchcraft because they were stongly convicted by the Holy Spirit:

King James Version of the Bible
Book of Acts
Chapter 19

19:18 And many that believed came, and confessed, and shewed their deeds.
19:19 Many of them also which used curious arts brought their books together, and burned them before all men: and they counted the price of them, and found it fifty thousand pieces of silver.
19:20 So mightily grew the word of God and prevailed.

Jezebel was one of the most evil women in the Bible and sought to slay all of the prophets out of the land who warned of her idolatries:

King James Version of the Bible
Books of 1st and 2nd Kings

18:17 And it came to pass, when Ahab saw Elijah, that Ahab said unto him, Art thou he that troubleth Israel?
18:18 And he answered, I have not troubled Israel; but thou, and thy father's house, in that ye have forsaken the commandments of the LORD, and thou hast followed Baalim.

9:22
And it came to pass, when Joram saw Jehu, that he said, Is it peace, Jehu? And he answered, What peace, so long as the whoredoms of thy mother Jezebel and her witchcrafts are so many?

10:23
And Jehu went, and Jehonadab the son of Rechab, into the house of Baal, and said unto the worshippers of Baal, Search, and look that there be here with you none of the servants of the LORD, but the worshippers of Baal only.
10:24 And when they went in to offer sacrifices and burnt offerings, Jehu appointed fourscore men without, and said, If any of the men whom I have brought into your hands escape, he that letteth him go, his life shall be for the life of him.
10:25 And it came to pass, as soon as he had made an end of offering the burnt offering, that Jehu said to the guard and to the captains, Go in, and slay them; let none come forth. And they smote them with the edge of the sword; and the guard and the captains cast them out, and went to the city of the house of Baal.
10:26 And they brought forth the images out of the house of Baal, and burned them.
10:27 And they brake down the image of Baal, and brake down the house of Baal, and made it a draught house unto this day.
10:28 Thus Jehu destroyed Baal out of Israel.

9:30 And when Jehu was come to Jezreel, Jezebel heard of it; and she painted her face, and tired her head, and looked out at a window.
9:31
And as Jehu entered in at the gate, she said, Had Zimri peace, who slew his master?
9:32 And he lifted up his face to the window, and said, Who is on my side? who? And there looked out to him two or three eunuchs.
9:33 And he said, Throw her down. So they threw her down: and some of her blood was sprinkled on the wall, and on the horses: and he trode her under foot.
9:34 And when he was come in, he did eat and drink, and said, Go, see now this cursed woman, and bury her: for she is a king's daughter.
9:35 And they went to bury her: but they found no more of her than the skull, and the feet, and the palms of her hands.
9:36 Wherefore they came again, and told him. And he said, This is the word of the LORD, which he spake by his servant Elijah the Tishbite, saying, In the portion of Jezreel shall dogs eat the flesh of Jezebel:
9:37 And the carcase of Jezebel shall be as dung upon the face of the field in the portion of Jezreel; so that they shall not say, This is Jezebel.

The final apostasy of the whole world against God will be called the harlot of Babylon, and she will make the whole world participate in her witchcraft and sorcery:

King James Version of the Bible
Book of Revelation
Chapter 17

17:1 And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great harlot that sitteth upon many waters:
17:2 With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication.
17:3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.
17:4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:
17:5 And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.
17:6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.

I seriously wonder, if the rapture happened tomorrow would anybody notice?
 
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Lol, Harry Potter is a fictional children's book. This huge outrage against it about it being "blastfamy" is just making people look foolish.

The question is – who is looking foolish?

God is not to be made mockery of.

If we were living in OT times I would fear for a lot of people for the wrath of God upon them.

Regardless of that there is certainly a debate going on here between Christians and non Christians and therefore we should ALL understand that Christians will have a different outlook on this.

If my point is offensive to a non-Christian then that is understandable and of course that individual is not accountable to Christ as they have not accepted Christ as their saviour.

It is the same as saying people should not be going to the pub to drink & smoke. To non-Christians that would offend, to Christians the individual should understand why that is the case.

God Bless you whether you are a Christian or not.:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
 
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The question is – who is looking foolish?

God is not to be made mockery of.

If we were living in OT times I would fear for a lot of people for the wrath of God upon them.

Regardless of that there is certainly a debate going on here between Christians and non Christians and therefore we should ALL understand that Christians will have a different outlook on this.

If my point is offensive to a non-Christian then that is understandable and of course that individual is not accountable to Christ as they have not accepted Christ as their saviour.

It is the same as saying people should not be going to the pub to drink & smoke. To non-Christians that would offend, to Christians the individual should understand why that is the case.

God Bless you whether you are a Christian or not.:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

It is a fictional book, some people don't seem to understand that.
 
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It is a fictional book, some people don't seem to understand that.

It is anti-GOD and some people don't understand that.

The question is – who is looking foolish?

God is not to be made mockery of.

If we were living in OT times I would fear for a lot of people for the wrath of God upon them.

Regardless of that there is certainly a debate going on here between Christians and non Christians and therefore we should ALL understand that Christians will have a different outlook on this.

If my point is offensive to a non-Christian then that is understandable and of course that individual is not accountable to Christ as they have not accepted Christ as their saviour.

It is the same as saying people should not be going to the pub to drink & smoke. To non-Christians that would offend, to Christians the individual should understand why that is the case.

God Bless you whether you are a Christian or not. :bow: :bow:
 
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It is anti-GOD and some people don't understand that.

What is any God about a fantasy book?
If we were living in OT times I would fear for a lot of people for the wrath of God upon them.


But it is not the OT times, we are not in ancient Egypt or the ancient Israeli theocracy…. That covenant and way of life ended with Jesus.

Christians will have a different outlook on this.


No, some Protestants seem to be all up in arms against Harry Potter. The Christian body of the earth (Catholic Church) views it like it is, a harmless work of fiction.

It is the same as saying people should not be going to the pub to drink & smoke. To non-Christians that would offend, to Christians the individual should understand why that is the case.
Just because you believe it doesn’t mean all Christians do.
 
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What is any God about a fantasy book?
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But it is not the OT times, we are not in ancient Egypt or the ancient Israeli theocracy…. That covenant and way of life ended with Jesus.



No, some Protestants seem to be all up in arms against Harry Potter. The Christian body of the earth (Catholic Church) views it like it is, a harmless work of fiction.


Just because you believe it doesn’t mean all Christians do.

You just DON'T GET IT,

This is NOT ABOUT ME,

IT IS ABOUT GOD

God bless you :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
 
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What is any God about a fantasy book?
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But it is not the OT times, we are not in ancient Egypt or the ancient Israeli theocracy…. That covenant and way of life ended with Jesus.



No, some Protestants seem to be all up in arms against Harry Potter. The Christian body of the earth (Catholic Church) views it like it is, a harmless work of fiction.


Just because you believe it doesn’t mean all Christians do.

Leaving Harry Potter aside for a moment.

From looking at you your CF homepage I would guess you also view marijuana as not harmful. Would that be correct?

Is that the Mary Jane you mention that you are in love with?

God Bless you :thumbsup:
 
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Glad to haer you believe in the Holy Bible brother.

What about the opening of the Red Sea ? Do you believe that?

God Bless you :amen:
Yes, I do. However, I don't see it as "magic", but as the Lord using His Creation to accomplish it (volcanic eruption is a good possibility).

I acknowledge that there are things in this world that we cannot understand, to include miracles wrought by God. However, I just don't think humans can point a stick at something, say "abracadabra", and cause it to turn into something else.
 
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Yes, I do. However, I don't see it as "magic", but as the Lord using His Creation to accomplish it (volcanic eruption is a good possibility).

I acknowledge that there are things in this world that we cannot understand, to include miracles wrought by God. However, I just don't think humans can point a stick at something, say "abracadabra", and cause it to turn into something else.

Do you believe in the Jesus, The Father ( God) and the Holy Spirit ?

God bless you:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
 
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Leaving Harry Potter aside for a moment.

From looking at you your CF homepage I would guess you also view marijuana as not harmful. Would that be correct?

Is that the Mary Jane you mention that you are in love with?

God Bless you :thumbsup:

God created all on this earth and gave us dominion over it, to do with as we please. The Sativa plant being part of that.


and no, it's not harmful.
 
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God created all on this earth and gave us dominion over it, to do with as we please. The Salvia plant being part of that.


and no, it's not harmful.

First thing that came up on a Google search on the Salvia Plant:

Salvia divinorum is an extraordinary herb used in shamanism, divination, healing, meditation, and the exploration of consciousness.
It should always be used in a thoughtful, intelligent manner, and only by responsible adults that are of sound mind and clear intent.

My brother, does that offer clarity?

God Bless you :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
 
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Leaving Harry Potter aside for a moment.

From looking at you your CF homepage I would guess you also view marijuana as not harmful. Would that be correct?

Is that the Mary Jane you mention that you are in love with?

God Bless you :thumbsup:
I would not encourage my kids in this reading...of Harry Potter. My Choice!

MezzaMorta, I am confussed with your homepage and a statement you made. For one your homepage look like it belong as a myspace profile and not on a Christian Forum of any kind. Weather you like smoking weed or not it is still against the law. And God commands us to obey the laws of the land, period.

And the statement you made here on this thread "The Christian body of the earth (Catholic Chruch) views it like it is......." Tell me you are not making a statement that excludes anyone who is not catholic...that we are not in the Christian body, cause if you are can anyone tell me if this is flaming, or is flaming open also?:scratch:
 
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I personally think that Harry Potter is very blasphemous, saying that these people can perform "magic" and are therefore aere stronger than God. This is a danger to children, who are very suseptible to these things.
Alright, in general yes, magic and such is definitely bad. The big part though, is that because it is a big part of the entertainment part of our world, we have to acknowledge that everyone will be exposed to it.

That is why there are youth program studies which use LOTR and HP as witnessing tools. Part of the program is to firstly discourage magic and witchcraft and let the students know that it is bad, but then you have to get into other issues brought up in these movies. Like evil, and just other teen issues and morals which are brought up in the movies.

Or I guess yeah, we could tell everyone that watching and reading these films and books is evil, and turn it into something much worse than it is. Gah, does no one realize that by saying things like reading a fictional book on witchcraft is basically evil, that you are pushing away a whole generation? Especially since books and movies like this are literally everywhere?
 
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First thing that came up on a Google search on the Salvia Plant:

Salvia divinorum is an extraordinary herb used in shamanism, divination, healing, meditation, and the exploration of consciousness.
It should always be used in a thoughtful, intelligent manner, and only by responsible adults that are of sound mind and clear intent.

My brother, does that offer clarity?

God Bless you :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Well more accurately it would be [FONT=&quot]Cannabis sativa, Salvia Divinorum is a different plant. [/FONT]
 
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Weather you like smoking weed or not it is still against the law.


Not everywhere, how ever the context in which that verse is used is massively abused. Are you suggesting that people going to jail simply for possessing a naturaly occurring plant that God created is rational?

Tell me you are not making a statement that excludes anyone who is not catholic...that we are not in the Christian body


Like the Pope said, only the Catholic Church represents the Christian faith. Other churches are defective. [FONT=&quot][/FONT]
 
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