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Harris Doubles Down On Failed Policies In Newly Unveiled Platform

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With a new leader comes a new way forward. Kind of what "lead" means, really.
It doesn’t say anything about new leadership. A new way indicates a new direction or new path. So why does there need to be a change in direction or path?
 
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It doesn’t say anything about new leadership.
Um, you do know what job she's running for, don't you?

A new way indicates a new direction or new path. So why does there need to be a change in direction or path?
Because the guy who is currently leading the nation isn't gonna be doing that any more. Someone else will take over.

-- A2SG, haven't you noticed this kind of thing happening every four to eight years?
 
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Um, you do know what job she's running for, don't you?
Yes.
Because the guy who is currently leading the nation isn't gonna be doing that any more. Someone else will take over.
I’m aware. That’s why I’m asking why the need for a new direction or path. Haven’t you noticed that she has said that she was in the Oval Office for tough decisions? If she was on board for all of those tough decisions, then why do we need a new path or direction? And if she wasn’t on board, why not tell us?
 
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Yes.

I’m aware. That’s why I’m asking why the need for a new direction or path.
And I've explained that a bunch of times.

Haven’t you noticed that she has said that she was in the Oval Office for tough decisions? If she was on board for all of those tough decisions, then why do we need a new path or direction? And if she wasn’t on board, why not tell us?
There's a difference between being in the driver's seat, and being a passenger. Kamala Harris might have helped with directions, but she hasn't been in the driver's seat.

-- A2SG. come January, hopefully, she will be....
 
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And I've explained that a bunch of times.
No, you’ve misdirected. You’ve changed it from a new way to a new leader.
There's a difference between being in the driver's seat, and being a passenger. Kamala Harris might have helped with directions, but she hasn't been in the driver's seat.
Not with this administration. Biden said she’d be part of every decision and he wouldn’t go forward if they disagreed.
-- A2SG. come January, hopefully, she will be....
If she is, we will definitely see what kind of train wreck she is.
 
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No, you’ve misdirected. You’ve changed it from a new way to a new leader.
A new leader means a new way to lead. No two leaders are going to be exactly the same. Leaders are, after all, individuals.

Not with this administration. Biden said she’d be part of every decision and he wouldn’t go forward if they disagreed.
They may very well agree on the directions, but it's still Biden driving the car. When Harris is in charge, she will find her own route.

If she is, we will definitely see what kind of train wreck she is.
Now don't go mixing metaphors on me.

-- A2SG, don't make me bring back Lucky Charms....
 
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A new leader means a new way to lead. No two leaders are going to be exactly the same. Leaders are, after all, individuals.
And “leader” isn’t mentioned. You are the one who keeps changing it to that.
They may very well agree on the directions, but it's still Biden driving the car. When Harris is in charge, she will find her own route.
Why? What is wrong with the current route?
 
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And “leader” isn’t mentioned. You are the one who keeps changing it to that.
Because that's what the election is about: choosing a new leader. Harris is vying for the job.

Why? What is wrong with the current route?
Who said anything was wrong with it? The current leader has chosen not to lead any more, a new leader will be elected.

That new leader will decide on a route.

-- A2SG, forward or backward seems to be the two choices before us....
 
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With the lowest taxes ever and a great economy, one wonders why we'd need them.
Yeah…it’s great. I can’t believe how much cheaper groceries and gas are. And now my number two can buy a house because interest rates are soooo much lower than a couple of years ago when his brother bought his.
 
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Because that's what the election is about: choosing a new leader. Harris is vying for the job.
Yes, that’s what elections are for. But that’s not the topic.
Who said anything was wrong with it? The current leader has chosen not to lead any more, a new leader will be elected.
There’s nothing about leadership mentioned in “A New Way Forward”. And nothing about her leadership in the platform. So let’s stay on topic.
That new leader will decide on a route.

-- A2SG, forward or backward seems to be the two choices before us....
Yes, a leader will choose the route. The question is, what’s wrong with the route we are on that we need a new one?
 
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Yeah…it’s great. I can’t believe how much cheaper groceries and gas are.
You'll be pleased to hear that inflation is even lower as announced in the WSJ today! After the Trump Recession, inflation worldwide was much worse than in the US, so I'm sure you're pleased that Biden did such a great job minimizing it compared to the rest of the world.
And now my number two can buy a house because interest rates are soooo much lower than a couple of years ago when his brother bought his.
The Fed sets interest rates by adjusting the Discount Rate. The Chairman of the Fed was appointed by Donald Trump. Why do you suppose Trump did such a poor job in nominating Powell?
 
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You'll be pleased to hear that inflation is even lower as announced in the WSJ today! After the Trump Recession, inflation worldwide was much worse than in the US, so I'm sure you're pleased that Biden did such a great job minimizing it compared to the rest of the world.
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The Fed sets interest rates by adjusting the Discount Rate. The Chairman of the Fed was appointed by Donald Trump. Why do you suppose Trump did such a poor job in nominating Powell?
That’s part of this great economy that you are touting.
 
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That’s part of this great economy that you are touting.
Since you've conceded that interest rates are a direct result of Trump's choices, that should be a clear indicator that voting from Trump would be a mistake. Suppose he nominated an even worse choice for Fed Chairman!
 
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Since you've conceded that interest rates are a direct result of Trump's choices, that should be a clear indicator that voting from Trump would be a mistake. Suppose he nominated an even worse choice for Fed Chairman!
Since you’ve conceded that the Biden-Harris economy is horrible, that should be a clear indication that voting for Harris would be a mistake.
 
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Since you’ve conceded that the Biden-Harris economy is horrible
If you scroll up, you'll see I pointed out that it's a great economy. You're trying to change the subject by complaining about interest rates and inflation being in a historically normal range.

Of course we all know interest rates were very low for years due to the Great Recession of 2008 under Dubya. One wonders how Republicans manage to so consistently wreck the economy, and how Democrats rebuild it while Republicans complain about how the Dems didn't rebuild it fast enough. It certainly makes one wonder.
that should be a clear indication that voting for Trump would be a mistake.
I'll agree with that last part.
 
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If you scroll up, you'll see I pointed out that it's a great economy. You're trying to change the subject by complaining about interest rates and inflation being in a historically normal range.
It’s not a great economy, though. As I pointed out.
Of course we all know interest rates were very low for years due to the Great Recession of 2008 under Dubya. One wonders how Republicans manage to so consistently wreck the economy, and how Democrats rebuild it while Republicans complain about how the Dems didn't rebuild it fast enough. It certainly makes one wonder.
It’s clear that you don’t know why the interest rates went up. If it was just because Trump nominated the Chair, then it would be an excellent idea to elect Trump because the Chair would just see about dropping those rates back down.

And W? Really?
 
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It’s not a great economy, though.
You've yet to establish that. GDP up, stock market at record highs, inflation down, etc. I went to a number of sold-out concerts in the last month. People across the political spectrum (judging by their apparel) were spending money right and left.
It’s clear that you don’t know why the interest rates went up.
Interest rates went up as a result of a decision by the Fed. The Fed Chairman was appointed by Trump and made that decision in the wake of the Trump Recession and pandemic. I think that's clear enough. I'm just glad Biden/Harris were able to attenuate the negative effects from the Trump administration. I certainly remember the lockdown and the Trump Recession, don't you?
If it was just because Trump nominated the Chair, then it would be an excellent idea to elect Trump because the Chair would just see about dropping those rates back down.
You're saying Trump would order the Fed to drop the rates? Is that how it works?
And W? Really?
I'm old enough to remember the last several recessions all being under Republican administrations, and how interest rates have tracked over the decades. A 6% mortgage rate was considered a steal not that long ago. 3% was nice, but since it was a result of the Great Recession under Dubya, it was a bit of a mixed blessing, wouldn't you say? At the time, people were also complaining that bank CDs and Money Market funds weren't paying anything, so interest rates cut both directions, seriously. What do you think the 'correct' rate is for the Discount Rate set by the Fed? What should Powell set it at?
 
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