Harmless Porn

[andross77]

I believe that would be the "Lust in your heart" section. Where if you have ever looked at a woman with lust you have committed adultery in your mind.

thank you Belk.

the exact reference is Matthew 5:28 just so you don't think it's made up

this is why Christians do and should "make a fuss" about porn. while the world lets the claws of pornography slowly sink into it's flesh, Christians need to speak out against its evils.

the world won't truly see the death and destruction porn/lust/sexual immorality brings until Christ comes again. But believe Jesus, it's there.

 

[lawtonfogle]

I do not see why Christians make a big fuss about watching porns.
I mean, porns are harmless!

1) Sex after marriage is an okay thing for Christians. Since sex is created by God for couples to enjoy, what is the harm in watching porns?

Last I checked, it was also supposed to be a private thing. So if you are watching a porno of yourself and your spouse, it can be argued being all good, but otherwise it is seen as intruding on anther's very private act.

2) Porns provide sex education for otherwise, ignorant couples. Porn is a good way to teach you how to have sex.

Most porn is not made to be sex education, and in fact better education is given in scientific documentaries. I do remember seeing one such thing which borderline(d?) on porn, but it was actually done to be educational, not sexually arousing.

3) Porn is provided for by people who consent to having their naked pictures taken online. Since it is a consented thing, it surely can't be harmful.

Consent does not make something non-harmful. Need I mention a case of a guy consenting to be cannibalized?

Therefore, I think christians really shouldn't make a big fuss about not watching porn.

Oh, and finally, porn includes more than just people having sex.

 

[mpok1519]

usually the people who have problem with things like that are usually extremely boring or just ignorant individuals.

porn can be harmful in the same way too much medication can be a bad thing.

anything in excess is bad. Moderation keeps things from being harmful.

Porn can break marriags apart, but, it also can be an agent that keeps a couples' love life heated up and exciting.

Porn can be what keeps two married people's sex lives infused with excitement.

Porn doesnt ALWAYS have to be harmful, just as medicine isn't always beneficial.

It depends upon the context.

 

[andross77]

usually the people who have problem with things like that are usually extremely boring or just ignorant individuals.

porn can be harmful in the same way too much medication can be a bad thing.

anything in excess is bad. Moderation keeps things from being harmful.

Porn can break marriags apart, but, it also can be an agent that keeps a couples' love life heated up and exciting.

Porn can be what keeps two married people's sex lives infused with excitement.

Porn doesnt ALWAYS have to be harmful, just as medicine isn't always beneficial.

It depends upon the context.

Wrong, so wrong. Read Matthew 5:28 and tell me where Jesus puts a qualifier on WHEN it is ok to lust after another woman or man who isn't your wife.

 

[Smidlee]

I normally don't suggest someone watching a movie but in the case I recommend watching the movie "Fireproof" which has a part about porn.

 

[mpok1519]

Wrong, so wrong. Read Matthew 5:28 and tell me where Jesus puts a qualifier on WHEN it is ok to lust after another woman or man who isn't your wife.

The bible is dynamic and evolving. You tell me where in life itself theres an unwritten rule that says everything i spposed to stay te exac same way it was from the beginning because change doesnt exist.

Uh, and Im talking from a reality point of view, not a religious one. The Bible says ALOT of stuff; it says slaves are okay to own, and if your husband dies you have to marry his brother, and if you dont, you should be stoned for being disobedient. The Bible says ALOT. But I suppose you don't support slavery, but is okay to be against porn. I speak from the point of view of reality rather than the point of view the bible has(interpetted millions of diferent ways).

You tell me where in LIFE it says to adhere to your standards? you cant, so therefore people will NOT all have the same standards, as this would promote a monoculturous saturation where independent thought would not exist.

Porn can be beneficial; also, the Bible says not to divorce because thats adultery, EVEN if your spouse is abusive and a danger to you; you will go to hell, however, if you do not endure the pain and suffering of your marriage.

You tell me where the Bible says "Do good things, and don't let bad things happen to you as a result of your own actions."

Does the Bible say such a thing? Well, it should, if its so perfect like you think it is. It should also tell you how to file your tax return, if it is so perfect and has ALL the mysteries of the universe within its pages....

 

[lawtonfogle]

Wrong, so wrong. Read Matthew 5:28 and tell me where Jesus puts a qualifier on WHEN it is ok to lust after another woman or man who isn't your wife.

Well a quick point.

What if the porn is of your spouse? I have heard of teens who accidentally discovered their parents 'home made tapes' and how sick it made them when they realized what was going on, so people do make them. They just need better hiding places to keep it away from the kids.

 

[lawtonfogle]

The bible is dynamic and evolving. You tell me where in life itself theres an unwritten rule that says everything i spposed to stay te exac same way it was from the beginning because change doesnt exist.

Uh, and Im talking from a reality point of view, not a religious one. The Bible says ALOT of stuff; it says slaves are okay to own, and if your husband dies you have to marry his brother, and if you dont, you should be stoned for being disobedient. The Bible says ALOT. But I suppose you don't support slavery, but is okay to be against porn. I speak from the point of view of reality rather than the point of view the bible has(interpetted millions of diferent ways).

Come on, at least get it right. The commandment is given to the brother to marry the wife, not vice versa, and only if she does not have a child. The woman is, to my knowledge, not given a say in it because she is at a lower level than a man. Also, if the man refuses, he gets spat at, but no stoning takes place. Of course, the point of it requires a relationship we define as adulterous still stands.

You tell me where in LIFE it says to adhere to your standards? you cant, so therefore people will NOT all have the same standards, as this would promote a monoculturous saturation where independent thought would not exist.

But there are some standards you do force on others. Your reasons for doing so just need to be just, such as wanting to protect others (and thus forcing a no murder policy).

Porn can be beneficial; also, the Bible says not to divorce because thats adultery, EVEN if your spouse is abusive and a danger to you; you will go to hell, however, if you do not endure the pain and suffering of your marriage.

Um, I am sure by the time anyone is married they have already sinned are are already going. Of course, I have my views on this, but they are a bit complex and controversial, and definitely topic derailing.

You tell me where the Bible says "Do good things, and don't let bad things happen to you as a result of your own actions."

Job basically says that even doing good things will result in bad things. Well, Job and the whole crucifixion deal.

Does the Bible say such a thing? Well, it should, if its so perfect like you think it is. It should also tell you how to file your tax return, if it is so perfect and has ALL the mysteries of the universe within its pages....

Oh come on, the Bible does tell you how to file your taxes. Just give 10% to God. It wasn't till later that people messed up the government God set up.

Really, if you want to give hit the Bible 'under the belt', go for the whole 'not condemning child rape (assuming it takes place in a marriage)' deal. A few points on this. This really just hits the OT hard. In the NT Jesus does say something against it. Now, this is not where Jesus talks about the stone around the neck, which most people think He is. Jesus is talking there about keeping children from being saved. The place where Jesus is against child rape falls under the whole Golden rule deal. Of course, even then, you have to assume forced child marriage is a bad thing, as the Bible does not spell that out.

 

[mpok1519]

Well, the topic was if porn is harmful, not Jesus' opinions on it.

I mean, cmon, do people REALLY expect a young male to never obtain an erection? Seriously, the Bible condemns you if you obtain an erection; sure, sometimes its because the bladder is full, but ninety percent of the time its due to arousal from visual, cognitive or physical stimulation.

LITERALLY, this means ninty percent of the time when a man has an erection, it is adultery.

lol I mean, give me a break. If I think about a pretty girl (and this gal can be just a construct of my imagination) and I get an erection, this means I am an adulterer.

lol no wonder the radical right is uneducated.

I'm pretty sure Jesus had an erection at one point NOT due to a full bladder. And since Jesus never had a wife, that means his erection was defiant of God's will, and therefore, Jesus was a sinner. This means He was not a perfect individual then.

I mean, honestly, raise your hand if you think Jesus NEVER had an erection other than the times he had to pee in the morning.

 

[Smidlee]

Well, the topic was if porn is harmful, not Jesus' opinions on it.

I mean, cmon, do people REALLY expect a young male to never obtain an erection? Seriously, the Bible condemns you if you obtain an erection; sure, sometimes its because the bladder is full, but ninety percent of the time its due to arousal from visual, cognitive or physical stimulation.

LITERALLY, this means ninty percent of the time when a man has an erection, it is adultery.

lol I mean, give me a break. If I think about a pretty girl (and this gal can be just a construct of my imagination) and I get an erection, this means I am an adulterer.

lol no wonder the radical right is uneducated.

I'm pretty sure Jesus had an erection at one point NOT due to a full bladder. And since Jesus never had a wife, that means his erection was defiant of God's will, and therefore, Jesus was a sinner. This means He was not a perfect individual then.

I mean, honestly, raise your hand if you think Jesus NEVER had an erection other than the times he had to pee in the morning.

Wow. I must be uneducated since I didn't have any idea that erection = adultery. I must be abnormal because I can easily look at a nice looking woman without having a erection (or even lusting after her) as well as have an erection without even thinking of a woman. Maybe I'm not educated enough. And here I thought Jesus was referring to the heart of man.

 

[mpok1519]

I as being facetious; BUT when you interpret the Bible in such a way that the radical fundamentalist right-wing has, then yes, an erection is adultery.

Yes, you can look at a nice woman and not have an erection, but you can also look at a nice women and have one. You can have a full bladder and have an erection.

But thats the point I'm making; if I think about sex and obtain an erection, its adultery.

Which brings me back to my point that the Bible is old, outdated and a dynamic document ever evolving and changing; the definition of adultery as changed just like the times have changed.

And since they didnt have porn back in jesus days, how can one make the objective claim that porn is adultery?

I'd be worried if you're a right-wing radical fundamentalists bible literalist moreso than being an adulterer or uneducated. I think radical rigtwing fundamentalists bible lieralists are more of a threat to society than adulterers...