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Not really. Protestants make up 34% and Catholics 23%. But theres around 32% of Christians without any specific denomination. I think evangelism is mainly Protestants.
Yes, but now that Roe v. Wade is overturned, the detente between Catholics and Evangelical Protestants is no longer necessary and Catholics are being returned to the second-class status they enjoyed back in the 50s
Ok so then I am not sure what you are talking about. But free enterprise as in being innovative and productive doen't seem like a bad thing in itself.
That is a good thing, but it's not free enterprise, either.
 
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Btw trying to hijack this case in order to whine about supposed systemic racism is pathetic. You could have made ur own thread but u had to push ur agenda here. Absolute cringe. If u think u are gonna accomplish anything then u are sorely mistaken.
 
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If trump did a great thing, it would be his first.
Of course the anti-Trump are going to say that. I wouldn't expect anything different. Just like the Right think he has done good.

Donald Trump nominated for Nobel Peace Prize. Will it help him in Presidential Election 2024?
Republican lawmaker has nominated him for the Nobel Peace Prize citing his role in the Abraham Accords treaty. Abraham Accord was signed in 2020 during his presidency and it normalized relations between Israel, Bahrain and the UAE. He has been nominated for this prestigious prize for the fourth time.

Trump Administration Accomplishments
Almost 4 million jobs created since election, median household income has hit highest level ever recorded, almost 3.9 million Americans have been lifted off food stamps since the election, signed the biggest package of tax cuts and reforms in history, reached a breakthrough agreement with the E.U. to increase U.S. exports, net exports are on track to increase by $59 billion and more thorough vetting of refugess and building the Wall.
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It is sad that this is even a possibility.
Why, many people with criminal records have gone on to do great things. I would rather a person who may have done something minor criminally than someone who has a clean record and yet is secretly decieving people while pretending to be holier than thou.

I think with Trump, what you see is what you get. He doesn't really hide his brash and shifty behaviour. Its the ones who pretend to be morally superior yet they are like sheep in wolves clothing are the ones you have to watch out for.

Do you honestly think there was no coverup with Hunter Biden. Come on lets get real. What about the Clintons, they are no saints.


For me I don't think either candidate is ideal. It perhaps reflects the state of US politics that they can only come up with poor representatives. Surely there is better candidates. I would think if the Right replaces Trump with someone of similar but not with the baggage they would win the election.

Theres a mood among the people I think where they want change. THis seems to be happening around the world where Leftist governments are being voted out and the Right is coming back into favor. The election cycle seems to work this way and has done for decades.

This is especially true as we are now seeing the devastation of radical Leftist ideology around the world.
 
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Yes, but now that Roe v. Wade is overturned, the detente between Catholics and Evangelical Protestants is no longer necessary and Catholics are being returned to the second-class status they enjoyed back in the 50s
No, not the Catholic and Prostestant conflict again. I thought we got over that. This is another sign of the times, of the division between people, identity groups even with the Church.
That is a good thing, but it's not free enterprise, either.
Ok well then perhaps you better explain what it is and save me to keep guessing lol.
 
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For me I don't think either candidate is ideal.
So again, at what point do you think he's unsuitable? Assuming that you think that everything so far hasn't led you to that position.
 
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So again, at what point do you think he's unsuitable? Assuming that you think that everything so far hasn't led you to that position.
Right now, I think neither candidate is suitable. But then I am speaking from afar and I don't know how I would feel as a local, affected by local and wider issues. I have mostly voted by the long way where you can vote parties and independents by number individually.

That way you can give preference to whoever you think is worthy regardless of party. It may be a mix of Left, Right, Environmentalist, Family First, Country and Independent reps. That way it gives a balance of power. The only problem is you have to be careful because some of the minor parties preference the major parties and can be radical in their policies.

There have been some good candidates on both the Left and the Right. Years ago when there were not so many minor parties there was only the Left (labor) the Right (liberal/Conservative) which linked with the National Country Party (rural) and the Democrates. But the Democrates were not like those in the US. They were a bit of both. Their slogan was 'Keeping the B******S Honest' lol.

I use to vote for them most of the time. But I have voted for Labor (Left) in the 80's as they were good for the nation back then. The PM Bob Hawke was a character and good bloke who understood industrial relations. Keating his Treasurer went to my school lol and was a great treasurer.

Other than that I have voted for the LNP Liberal National Party what you would call Conservatives a bit like the Conservatives (Torries) in England as Australia runs on the Westminister political system. But I will vote for whoever I believe will do a good job regardless of identity and association. Fundementally I obviously have a Right leaning being that the Conservatives align more with Christian values.

If I was forced to pick a candidate for the US presendency I think I would lean towards Trump. Not necessarily because I like Trump more but more I dislike and worry more about the Lefts current trajectory in what it is doing to society, the economy, immigration and how I think Leftist ideology is becoming more radical towards Totalitarianism.
 
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Yeah most successful business people make poor decisions you know.

What does that have to do with Trump?

Right enough to be a convicted felon based due to fraud he's "doing right", it appears.
 
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What does that have to do with Trump?
I thought you were trying to discredit Trump because he lost money on some business deal. I was just saying some of the best business people do, because they have the type of personality that takes those risks more often.
Right enough to be a convicted felon based due to fraud he's "doing right", it appears.
Yeah, see this is what I am talking about with identity politics. Its like a continual ad hominem being rehashed that doesn't address the content. Cannot see past the black mark, judging a person based on one thing only. Using this as a political weapon. Thats the identity politics that people don't like.

I guarentee you just about every successful business person has cooked the books at sometime.
 
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That is certainly an odd way for a Christian to justify Trump's behavior. Is book-cooking not immoral?

"Everybody does it so it's not fair to charge Trump with it just because he got caught."

I knew Evangelicals were losing their Christian moral compass, but I never expected it to go as far as this.
 
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Btw trying to hijack this case in order to whine about supposed systemic racism is pathetic. You could have made ur own thread but u had to push ur agenda here. Absolute cringe. If u think u are gonna accomplish anything then u are sorely mistaken.
So I guess you can't justify any ofhis wrongdoings so you go on the attack on a whole different topic. Classy
 
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Btw trying to hijack this case in order to whine about supposed systemic racism is pathetic. You could have made ur own thread but u had to push ur agenda here. Absolute cringe. If u think u are gonna accomplish anything then u are sorely mistaken.
The OP posted “wrong”?
How does that work?
 
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now i say this to all parties at hand . what we need to be all on gaurd against
is this mushroom theology and political ideals that has grown very large in the past decade .
It seems it is spreading far and wide and it is taking captive many a leader
and many a party . Now mushroom political theology is
the danger .
 
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What is Mushroom theology. Is it related to Shrooms lol.
 
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That is certainly an odd way for a Christian to justify Trump's behavior. Is book-cooking not immoral?
"Everybody does it so it's not fair to charge Trump with it just because he got caught."
I am not condoning doing anything illegal. My point was the Left don't have any credibility either to be taking the moral high ground on this. They are just better at getting away with it.

You also missed the whole point of what I said. Rather than address that point you make another logical fallacy, a red herring (another moral complaint about Christians) to divert away from the point.

This is what the Left do, this is what identity politics does. My point was that its ok to point out that someone has done wrongbut when it gets to the point that this is all you do to address the candidates content, their policies or their business ability then it becomes just as bad as the wrong that you are pointing out in others.

That is what the Left are doing. Whenever the opposition may really have a good point, the character card is brought out rather than addressing the content. It just happened here in this thread and that is exactly what the Left are doing and will do during the election.

Sooner or later people see through it and then it begins to work against the party doing it as it shows they lack any real content and just rely on personal swipes, playing the man and not the ball so to speak.
I knew Evangelicals were losing their Christian moral compass, but I never expected it to go as far as this.
Why Evangelicals. Is that something only applied to the US. As I don't think we have any Evangelicals here. Well at least in politics or power. But once again another fallacy and personal attack on a group, classic identity politics. Target the groups morals, their integrity rather than deal with the issues at hand.
 
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